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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby troyp » Mon May 26, 2008 5:42 pm UTC

I agree with most of the suggestions above which I've read, particularly:
Ellis' Authority
Transmetropolitan
Rising Stars
Fables
(mainly early) Preacher
(although none of these are actually "graphic novels")

If established superheroes are ok, I think Astonishing X-Men is remarkably good.

Also, yes, you've got to check out Moore's "From Hell". This has got to be one of the best comics ever. Better than Watchmen in my (sure-to-be-disputed) opinion. Also, it really is a graphic novel.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Gojoe » Tue May 27, 2008 9:21 am UTC

I thought of another gem. The Exterminators by Simon Oliver. Gross but i could not stop myself from reading it :shock:
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby dbsmith » Wed May 28, 2008 12:24 am UTC

Ok guys, my amazon order arrived and ive read thru most of it. Based on some recommendations and my own spontaneity, i ended up getting:
- Astonishing X-men 1-3
- Bone - One Volume Edition
- Iron West by Doug Tennapel
- Batman Dark Knight Returns
- V for Vendetta

All fantastic, will put in another order soon for more. Damn it all, you guys have me hooked. Like i needed another addiction...

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Gojoe » Wed May 28, 2008 9:51 am UTC

I am quite proud... You went from convince me to buying and reading them quite fast. We should start a graphic novel book club :D :D
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Endless Mike » Wed May 28, 2008 7:55 pm UTC

Honestly, I would have recommended getting New X-Men over Astonishing for a variety of reasons the least of which being that Astonishing is really its direct successor. On the plus side, it looks like they're rereleasing it in three trades, which is nice and will likely be a much better value than the smaller ones currently in print (and certainly the out of print Omnibus). Looks like only volume 1 is currently out, though.

http://www.amazon.com/New-X-Men-Grant-M ... 066&sr=8-1

Other than that, looks like a good haul!

What are your thoughts on Bone? I always worry about recommending it since it's an all-ages book, which people seem to interpret as "kiddie."

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Ramses IV » Wed May 28, 2008 8:23 pm UTC

I love all of the Bone books. Are all of them "all-ages" though? I always thought that a few of 'em could scare an 8-year-old or something completely sh*tless.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Stay_Puft_marshmallows » Thu May 29, 2008 6:03 am UTC

Call me old-fashioned, but the boy scouts (big blue and otherwise) have always been my favorite heroes.

if you're at all receptive to Superman, I recommend Birthright. It blew me away.

Just picked up the trades for infinite crisis and 52, and they were a good time, I thought.
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If Hasbro gets their way and deals the GI Joe property back to marvel, I'm really interested to see what Marvel does with it - if it gets integrated into the grand marvel continuity I expect some truly ridiculous crossovers. The Joe team replacing S.H.I.E.L.D. for example, or Snake-Eyes obliterating just about every villain who's ever given Spider-Man a hard time.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Endless Mike » Thu May 29, 2008 1:24 pm UTC

Ramses IV wrote:I love all of the Bone books. Are all of them "all-ages" though? I always thought that a few of 'em could scare an 8-year-old or something completely sh*tless.

They're being sold as that by Scholastic, who is coloring them. But yeah, I can definitely see what you mean, especially later on. You're allowed to say shit.
Stay_Puft_marshmallows wrote:Call me old-fashioned, but the boy scouts (big blue and otherwise) have always been my favorite heroes.

if you're at all receptive to Superman, I recommend Birthright. It blew me away.

Just picked up the trades for infinite crisis and 52, and they were a good time, I thought.
I'm following Star Wars Legacy out of some kind of masochistic tendencies and I would be following G.I. Joe: America's Elite but I missed a few issues that are now super rare and it seems Devil's Due might lose the rights to it anyway so I'm hosed on that one - I really liked it, though.

If Hasbro gets their way and deals the GI Joe property back to marvel, I'm really interested to see what Marvel does with it - if it gets integrated into the grand marvel continuity I expect some truly ridiculous crossovers. The Joe team replacing S.H.I.E.L.D. for example, or Snake-Eyes obliterating just about every villain who's ever given Spider-Man a hard time.

Marvel won't integrate it into their continuity and CERTAINLY will not replace SHIELD with G.I. Joe (why the hell would they do that?). They've had too much trouble in the past with licensed characters (Rom: Space Knight being the best example) that it's simply too much of a pain. They wouldn't really fit too well in the universe, anyway, I don't think. Most likely, they'd release it as an Icon series.

Infinite Crisis is a terrible, terrible thing to recommend to someone new to comics. Regardless of your opinion of it (I didn't like it at all), it's WAY too steeped in continuity for someone unfamiliar with the DCU. 52 was a great series and very much the opposite and fairly easy to read.

EDIT: IDW got the G.I. Joe license.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Ramses IV » Thu May 29, 2008 11:54 pm UTC

Endless Mike wrote:
Ramses IV wrote:I love all of the Bone books. Are all of them "all-ages" though? I always thought that a few of 'em could scare an 8-year-old or something completely sh*tless.

They're being sold as that by Scholastic, who is coloring them. But yeah, I can definitely see what you mean, especially later on. You're allowed to say shit.


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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby dbsmith » Fri May 30, 2008 2:00 am UTC

Well I don't think Bone is "kiddie." Its appealing for a broad range of ages.
Mind you, a lot of stuff that people think is for kids I love. Like movies, books etc...
I dont let age labels put me off and neither should u!

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Jorpho » Fri May 30, 2008 4:12 pm UTC

How about something completely different? I must caution that I've never read any of these, but I've heard some Very Good Things.

Black Hole
Wimbledon Green
Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid on Earth

And perhaps Ghost World? Lots of fans of that one.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Jesse » Sat May 31, 2008 1:53 pm UTC

Black Hole is okay. The story was decent, the artwork isn't that impressive and the writing wasn't exactly special either. You probably won't hate it, but it's not going to make you spontaneously love graphic novels either.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Ramses IV » Sat May 31, 2008 3:27 pm UTC

If we were going to ban you for saying shit, we'd also ban you for saying sh*t, as it's effectively the same thing. /just sayin' - ST


Oh...well, it's good that I'm allowed to say it then, isn't it?

ON TOPIC: Have you read Rice Boy? It's a really cool graphic novel available on the internet.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Jorpho » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:25 am UTC

As far as Internet things go, I hear Shooting War is excellent. (Also available in "special edition" print form.)

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Endless Mike » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:07 am UTC

The first Starman Omnibus is available for all of $18.

http://www.betterworld.com/product-id-1401216994.aspx

If you haven't read it, it's a really, really good series dealing with legacy and heritage and such; easily one of the best things to come out of the 90s.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Adalwolf » Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:40 am UTC

The Darkhorse Conan comics are absolutely badass. Everyone should read them.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby plytho » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:50 pm UTC

Some stuff that I like but that might not have been translated in english:

-Yoko Tsuno: The adventures of a japanese woman in europe, the world and outer space.
crime solving, friendship, love, adoption and modern technology but also some sciencefiction


-Apocalypse mania: 4 beams of light come seem to come from outer space. The most intelligent man on earth tries to figure out what they mean.

-the worlds of aldebaran series: The human colony on aldebaran has been cut off from earth for a century when the town of marc and kim is struck by disaster.
Intriguing story, amazing planets

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby danteshepherd » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:47 am UTC

Did anyone see "Teenagers From Mars"? I thought this was a brilliant love/rebelling-against-society story, and nicely drawn to boot.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby jareturns » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:09 pm UTC

Various Varieties wrote:Maus.

Daredevil: Born Again. (But preferably not until you've read Frank Miller's earlier Daredevil run...)

DC: The new Frontier (or anything else by Darwyn Cooke)

Any of Alan Moore's America's Best Comics work: Tom Strong/Top 10 (and Smax!)/League of Extraordinary Gentlemen/Promethea

All-Star Superman.

Road to Perdition.


(Yes, I know some of those are more properly referred to as trade paperbacks than graphic novels...)

If you were going to pick up an All-star DC line, while Various Varieties might recommend Superman, I'd personally recommend Batman, it's much better. The big let-down I felt with Superman was the artwork and the over-the-top elaborate storyline. All-star Batman and robin is more gritter and satirical, plus it's written by the one and only Frank Miller. What more could you want? :wink:

But actual graphic novels - I echo the others' recommendation for watchmen, but also consider Wanted by Mark Millar. If possible, read this first before seeing the new film. Also you may be interested in some Hellboy and Sin City if you want to read something with a conclusion rather than an on-going series because it doesn't matter which volume you pick up as they are all stand-alones. But if you do decide to get into an on-going series, read Ultimate X-Men from the beginning. Tis good stuff.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Jesse » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:43 pm UTC

I find that Wanted works better if you're already decently acquainted with how comic books work.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby jareturns » Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:14 am UTC

Jesse wrote:I find that Wanted works better if you're already decently acquainted with how comic books work.

Oh well perhaps I am so use to comics that I didn't notice that being acquainted with comics was a prerequisite for reading/understanding Wanted.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Jesse » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:45 pm UTC

A lot of what it does is plays off of superheroes

Spoiler:
The unknowing nerd of a person who discovers he has a power, except he's a villain, not a hero. The Fox being Catwoman, and actually most of the jokes about heroes. A lot of the dialogue plays off of it. Also the final, moralistic speech where he decides evil is wrong and that having a normal life was better. Just kidding.

It's a decent story on it's own, but very much enhanced by having comic tropes ingrained within you already.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby jareturns » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:43 pm UTC

Well yes you do have a point, but I wasn't under the impression that the original poster is a complete novice to comics. I just thought that Wanted does have what the OP wants - a beginning and ending/conclusion, relatively easy to get into and in general a fun and light read.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Jesse » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:00 pm UTC

You know, you have a good point there. I kind of forgot the entire point of this thread.

My bad.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Various Varieties » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:50 pm UTC

jareturns wrote:If you were going to pick up an All-star DC line, while Various Varieties might recommend Superman, I'd personally recommend Batman, it's much better. The big let-down I felt with Superman was the artwork and the over-the-top elaborate storyline. All-star Batman and robin is more gritter and satirical, plus it's written by the one and only Frank Miller. What more could you want? :wink:

I love Frank Quitely's artwork - yes, even the old women! But he is definitely a love-him-or-hate-him artist (so is another of my favourites, Chris Bachalo).

I haven't read any of All-Star Batman, with the exception of that infamous panel (it was referred to on a page about a brilliant parody of Miller's Daredevil done by Alan Moore 25 years ago). And that's not the only criticism I've heard. Jim Lee's good, but I've never been able to see why he's considered that great. So I've never felt particularly compelled to investigate the comic further.

All-Star Superman, on the other hand, is blummin' brilliant.

But if you do decide to get into an on-going series, read Ultimate X-Men from the beginning. Tis good stuff.

I loved Millar's initial run, and most of Brian Bendis's (even if a large part of that was Ultimate Spider-Man And Daredevil With Special Guest Wolverine), but since then what I've read has lost the spark that made it so interesting at first. Ultimate Spider-Man and Fantastic Four have kept up the quality longer.

Also you may be interested in some Hellboy

How did I forget to mention that in my other post? :(

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Endless Mike » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:57 pm UTC

I think both the All-Star series are fantastic, but for completely different reasons. I love Quitely's design sense and storytelling abilities along with the plain awesomeness of the story over in ASS, and I love how insane ASBAR is. I mean, it has Batman painting a safehouse, himself, and Robin yellow so he can beat up Hal Jordan (and offering him lemonade). Which is always good to see, also.

Also, Ultimate X-Men has seriously dropped in quality since....uhhh...before Kirkman got on it.

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Postby Zohar » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:07 pm UTC

Finished the first All Star Batman book yesterday. It was pretty cool. I was surprised that I enjoyed it so much.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby TallMax » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:30 am UTC

I grew up reading Bone, literally. It will never be less than number one for me.

I really want to read Maus.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby jay220 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:02 pm UTC

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby AquaXV » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:48 pm UTC

If you like teenage angst and drama in your comics - definitely read Blankets. The drawings are stylish and the story, while seemingly run-of-the-mill, still captures your interest.

Can anyone recommend anything else like Blankets? Superhero comics are great sometimes, but I really hunger for alternative comics such as this.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Jorpho » Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:40 am UTC

I was reading a lot about Cerebus the Aardvark on TVTropes and Wikipedia the other day. Seems to fall rather short of the "awesome" classification, though.

Anyone here ever try to tackle this thing? It sounds like quite the mindscrew.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Endless Mike » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:33 pm UTC

AquaXV wrote:If you like teenage angst and drama in your comics - definitely read Blankets. The drawings are stylish and the story, while seemingly run-of-the-mill, still captures your interest.

Can anyone recommend anything else like Blankets? Superhero comics are great sometimes, but I really hunger for alternative comics such as this.

I can't think of anything specific, but there's certainly stuff out there. You may want to check out Persepolis, an autobiographical story about the writer growing up in Iran's cultural revolution.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby steewi » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:35 am UTC

Endless Mike wrote:
AquaXV wrote:If you like teenage angst and drama in your comics - definitely read Blankets. The drawings are stylish and the story, while seemingly run-of-the-mill, still captures your interest.

Can anyone recommend anything else like Blankets? Superhero comics are great sometimes, but I really hunger for alternative comics such as this.

I can't think of anything specific, but there's certainly stuff out there. You may want to check out Persepolis, an autobiographical story about the writer growing up in Iran's cultural revolution.


That's exactly where my mind went. I'd also recommend Shaun Tan. The Arrival the best one I've read, but also Tales of Outer Suburbia, which blurs the line between graphic novel and picture book. I keep finding them in the picture book section, but the target audience is closer to young adult.

Edit: Another GN I love that has nothing to do with superheroes is Mother Come Home, by Paul Horschenmeyer. If you haven't read Maus, it's also worthwhile.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Arpy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:17 am UTC

Doug TenNapel's works are second only to Bone in my pantheon of kickarse graphic novels. Giant space eels, diabolically British mad ghost scientists, and genrebending have never been done so well.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby ishikiri » Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:48 pm UTC

Marvel Max The Punisher trades. I just love em. Garth Ennis is just such a great writer for the Punisher.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Fuzzy_Wuzzy.bmp » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:48 am UTC

I searched this thread for Sam and Max and it came up empty, and thought to myself: "My God, these people are sick. What has the world come to?"

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Jorpho » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:15 am UTC

Fuzzy_Wuzzy.bmp wrote:I searched this thread for Sam and Max and it came up empty, and thought to myself: "My God, these people are sick. What has the world come to?"


Well, "Surfin' the Highway" is a darned expensive book last time I checked.

(And checking again, it seems that changed in February. Hmm.)

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby mosc » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:00 pm UTC

Well, just noticed this thread spawned a whole subforum but wanted to post my update here anyway. I finished the Watchmen and found it a much more interesting introduction than The Dark Knight was. Watchmen felt more like a narrative where The Dark Knight felt much more like a traditional series of comics. Beyond it's dark tone (which wasn't nearly as dark as I thought it would be from numerous expressions), it was really just ~7 batman comics glued together.

Watchmen was definitely different than I expected and certainly didn't read like a comic book. I was pleased with it I guess. Felt a little "trendy" buying it with the movie coming out and all but whatever. I think it lends itself to the medium better than The Dark Knight or the other random graphics novels I flipped through in the bookstore. So many seem like comic compilations of simple story arks. They seem by their very nature to be flat as the page they are printed on.

Anyway, I'll continue to try and find Sandman 1. Not surprisingly, it seems to get sold pretty quick and they don't like stocking lots of them because 2 through 9 are usually still sitting on the shelf. Maybe I'll break down and order it.
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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby Jesse » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:10 pm UTC

If you pick up a Mainstream 'Graphic novel' you will get the feeling it is seven or so comics stuck together because that is precisely what it is. DC/Marvel/Vertigo/everything is written and released in issues. The reason Watchmen felt bigger than that is because it was written with the novel part in mind, and thus was able to have a clear beginning and end without tying into a further continuity.

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Re: Recommend me an awesome graphic novel

Postby mosc » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:26 pm UTC

Jesse wrote:If you pick up a Mainstream 'Graphic novel' you will get the feeling it is seven or so comics stuck together because that is precisely what it is. DC/Marvel/Vertigo/everything is written and released in issues. The reason Watchmen felt bigger than that is because it was written with the novel part in mind, and thus was able to have a clear beginning and end without tying into a further continuity.

Then the term is poorly used. They should have a better delineation between "comic book collection" and "graphic novel"
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