t1mm01994 wrote:That's another thing I don't like about you - you claim something is true, I ask why, you refer to answer except for pointing back to your earlier claim. Other people than thdl: check his sources. I have trouble finding any.
OK, source on the first claim (spoilered the C&P:
Ok, there is one step further. Given that Xeno is scum OR there is a mafia up, we can be certain that if any player who is not Xeno is an arsonist, then there is another scum player alive (Xeno's mafia or Xeno himself). There is a small chance that ConMan emailed back and fourth with 2 writing styles, but that seems... unlikely. What is wrong with this logic?
This is weaker, I admit. My reasoning is as follows: getting caught lying by a towny on any day but the last day is an instant loss for a single scum player, so lying about my target would have been an extremely risky play for an unlikely reward, especially b/c if I was false claiming, there are safer false claims. Therefore, even Arsonist!thdl was likely truthful about the target (who is now dead).
I'll ask you again, because you dodged this question the past times I asked: how do you justify claiming you knew who killed lynx if you're a tracker targeting lynx?
Asked and answered:
Xenomortis wrote:What surprised me is that thdl (or BN) never picked up on that (even though I hinted at it earlier).
I'm confused by this, see the above spoiler (I think that's what you are referencing).
If t1mm is going to get lynched then I vote thdl for the Vig kill.
To be honest, I don't mind too much which of them is lynched and which is Vig killed, if they both die.
This pings me very heavily, and if t1mm flips town, then I'll be fairly certain you're scum. Unless you truly believe that I am a 2 target arsonist - unlikely for a variety of reasons - then we should not risk insta loss (or 1v1) by using both our kills in one day. To put it another way, scum!Xeno wants to see us both dead in a big way. The good news about this though, is that it means you likely aren't a 2-target arsonist, as then you'd have no incentive to try and make us blow both our town kills in 1 day.
I think I've figured out why t1mm's tunneling on me to the point of (possibly unintentional) misrepresentation: Xeno's listener claim implicates t1mm to a reasonable degree, so town!t1mm should be very suspicious of Xeno, whereas mafia!t1mm can't afford to have Xeno flip town, as that puts him in a really bad spot tomorrow.
Suzaku wrote:If Tim is lynched and that doesn't end the game then I will target thdl with the vig kill unless there is strong opposition to me doing so.
I have an opposition to this, obviously b/c I'd rather avoid a misvig of myself.
More importantly, however, if we use both our town kills in one day and don't take out all of the scum with them, then we go to 1v1, which I'd rather avoid, I think town can do better than 50/50 at LYLO. If lynching t1mm doesn't end the game, then vigging me will almost certainly put us at 1v1 (Unless both t1mm and me are scum OR suzaku is an SK). If killing t1mm doesn't ed the game, then I think we'll do much better based on the NK selection and other pings (with another 4 days to talk).
I still think we should NL -> vig to constrain SK!Suzaku, but in the event that the lynch goes through (because few people seem to like this idea), I say Suzaku should withhold. I should be one once more before deadline, see you then.