If you're worried that other one showed us your role PM, don't worry, it doesn't -- at least not on my end. Saw that one before this one, sorry *shrug*. Anyway, I have absolutely no idea how to play as of now... I do have a question, though, as it kinda came up in thread:Do wolves have a recruit or a kill power, or neither?
Mod Answer: Neither.
Any thoughts on stragetey? seems like we dont' have a recruiting power, unless one of the others have it (not I)
No I don't have any power to use. It seems we are just a vanilla voting bloc. My goal for strategy is to just act towny enough to not get lynched, scummy enough to not get NK'd. Haha, and of course that will be delicate. Also, I'm committed to this win condition. I am town in the other two timelines, but I'm going to claim to be town in all three. And for anyone who has claimed to be town in all three timelines, I think they are lying, just as I will be lying.
I'm town in the other 2 timelines as well, and have claimed that in thread. I think that it would make the mechanics simpler if this were true for most people.
Are we all from the same time period, 2014?
Yes. I would suspect that if you are a werewolf or scum in a different time period, you would only be able to chat with other werewolves/scum in that specific time period.
Which brings me to another thing. Do we think there are scum in 2014? Do we think there are werewolves in any other time period besides 2014? I suspect there must be some kind of allied anti-town faction in each timeline. So maybe it's just us in 2014, mafia in another, cult in the third. Or something. Since we don't have any NK powers, if we believe that a player dies in all three timelines when they are dead, that would mean that a NK power simply isn't necessary in this 2014 timeline at all (all the kill powers could be in other timelines and would still affect us in 2014 anyway).
New User wrote:You would know who your scum team-mates are, and if you truly want the town to win then you could just publicly announce your team-mates.
Also this is a complete red herring. Outing your own team-mates wouldn't work at all, because you'd only be outing your team-mates in that one timeline which wouldn't help your town win condition in another timeline. To win as town, you'd have to hunt for the scum in the timeline in which you are town. I hope that I am not lynched for saying this, I'll just defend myself by saying that it was so confusing trying to think of it in a game with such unusual mechanics.
freezeblade is the only one with a vote on and it doesn't look too bad for a D1 vote. I can't think of any way to defend you without looking like obvious buddying, freezeblade. I suggest you just ignore wam's accusations, try to come up with a good reason to vote for someone else and stick with it for D1. And if you get more votes and it looks like you are going to be lynched, maybe you can claim to have a useful town power role or something. But I admit I'm not good at this sort of scummy play. Anybody else have any ideas?
I legitimately think that if we claim to be a survivor cult that is non-recruiting, we can cast doubt on the recruiting-cults claims. I will clearly wait until I hear back from someone here about their thoughts. For now I'm going to ignore wam's accusations as speculation, saying he's probably doing it because I've been gone for the long weekend.
Sorry freezeblade but at this point I'm not willing to claim to be connected with you! It's only one vote on you, and I have already tried to cast doubt on wam's reason for voting so maybe we can save you D1.
Fair enough. it's only one vote, and nearly nobody else is voting, if we get much closer and nobody votes I'll have to toss down a tie-vote to save my skin, I need to look at how the tie vote mechanics work out.
Welp, I'm fucked I think. I'm the only one with votes on me and the day is fast approching.
I'm thinking about outting that werewolves aren't too much of a threat because they don't have a night kill or a recruit power, without naming you guys.
I'm hoping that'll help in the longer-run, as one of us pretty much needs to survive 'till day 10, it's looking like zedbomb might be modkilled, which certainly hurts. I'll wait 'till I get thoughts on it before I do it, but will go ahead and post if we are about to hit deadline.
Freezey, I'm working on a post now. I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet, but that could at least give you a tie situation.
The only way a 13-player game would get to D10 is with a lot of resurrection powers. To win, we're going to have to eliminate the competition.
My problem atm is that I'm legit finding moody most scummy, but I can't figure out how to make it seem like I'm not defending freezey against him when he just put a vote on freezey.
so wait, we have cult and us, is there mafia as well? because if there isn't, and we are the mafia, I wonder if we can convince town that the cult is the real enemy, seeing as how they now know who their possible recruits are.
However, I'm worried that even if there's not a lynch on me tonight, how much of a reveil will be done if zed is modkilled. If the reviel just says "was a member of the werewolf party in 2014" then we could act like a mason group, guiding town for a while. If the mod reviels much more though, we're toast to go that route.
Just say what you legitimately think. I already tried to cast doubt on wam's reason for voting, and I already griped about how it only makes sense that wam and moody would vote together because they are apparently of the same alignment. So you could agree with what I already said, essentially buddying with me instead of freezeblade. Just don't be too obvious about it. Maybe you can accuse wam/moody of ganging up on the low-hanging fruit, since freezeblade is the only player who had the initiative to claim anything other than town, he is apparently 2/3 town just as they are.
Keep in mind that when freezeblade is dead, he'll presumable be revealed as a werewolf. So everyone will know he was lying about his survivor role and that'll make wam and whoever else votes for him look like a good scumhunter. Well wam actually, anybody else can be accused of joining the bandwagon (since freezeblade is the only one with any votes at all right now).
I don't think they'll buy that we are a harmless mason group. Even though we pretty much are, we are anti-town. And "werewolf" just sounds like something that should be lynched.
Also, I think there is probably a mafia. In another timeline. I think maybe we are the scum in 2014, mafia is in 1985, and cult is in 1885 or something like that. Regardless of the timeline thing, I think there must be a mafia for there to be nightkills.
Agreed. We don't have NK, presumably if cult is recruiting at night they don't either. There has to be NK somewhere other than in town hands (vig, if there is one), so there must be a mafia.
Oh yeah and in the thread I am playing like the werewolves are the mafia. That is me just playing dumb. You might as well presume that 50% of the things I say in the thread are a lie, but like I said at the beginning, I'm dedicated to this win condition.
Trying to catch up and get my head around this.
I guess we're the day-chatting, non-killing, non-recruiting 'scum' group for the 2014 timeline?
Who have the unenviable task of not just gaining a majority of votes, but actually eliminating all other players? That's a pretty harsh scum wincon, there.
Sorry freezeblade but I have to vote for you. You are legitimately the scummiest looking person right now, and my only other option would be to make a post and not vote for anyone (making myself look scummy and doing nothing to help you), make a post giving a reason to vote for someone besides you (which I think would be hard to rationalize, again making myself look scummy), or not making a post at all (making myself look like a lurker, which would probably look scummy). I think that no matter what I do, you are going to be lynched anyway, so I might as well vote for you to make myself look as towny as possible.
As you can see, I am also trying to cast as much suspicion as I can onto the wam-moody-Madge group.
That's fine, I was totally expecting to get lynched yesterday, the extension threw a wrench in my works. I just hope that the reviel the next morning shows some part of it to be true, for ya'lls sake.
Anyone got any brilliant strategy ideas? I know I haven't.
I started to type this all into the thread but then I realized it might look like I am defending kalira too much. So here it is, and kalira you can use some of this to try to defend yourself:
I missed that USN considered kalira to be most likely a werewolf, because she was defending freezeblade. I noticed when roband quoted it. So I looked back at kalira's post in question, and I don't get that she was defending freezeblade so much. At that time, freezeblade was claimed to be a survivor and it looks to me like kalira believed that claim as much as she believed any other survivor claim (from wam and Madge). kalira's entire argument (her "defense" of freezeblade) seems based on the idea that she believed freezeblade's survivor claim more than she believed moody's.
I can't agree that kalira is likely a werewolf. If she had made another post defending freezeblade after freezeblade claimed to be a werewolf, there would be something to go on. But in this post where she is analyzing survivor claims, I just don't see it.
UniqueScreenname wrote:Mafia, SKs, vigs, I entreat you to take out our survivor cultees.
Be careful with this. If you have a kill power in another timeline (I'm guessing that none of us have any such power in 2014), then using it to take out the cult could mean a win for the town. I mean, if the cult is the only anti-town faction in the timeline they exist. If it's true that they are the only anti-town faction in their time, then eliminating them would mean victory for the players who are town only in that time.
So, instead I entreat you to use your kill to help the 2014 werewolves. If you are SK, your win condition is probably to be the last player alive (typical SK win condition). So you can speed your own victory along by killing non-werewolves, since you would win anyway as long as the 2014 werewolves win (of which you would be a subset).
If you are a town vig, killing the cultees would help you win and also would help us in 2014. So go for it. Since I'm town in both other timelines, you'd be a vig in a time where I'm town, so you'd be helping me also.
I hope that none of you are also mafia in another timeline, but if you are, it wouldn't be in your best interest to prioritize the cult group with your NK unless you believe they exist in the same time period that you are mafia (which I doubt). But I won't say more since I'd rather not give advice to the mafia.
If someone else wanted to find another 'scumslip' of Jude's, it wouldn't be a bad thing.
Also, sorry for the werewolf bashing, but the data's there for anyone to see who chose to.