Sabrar - are you me in disguise? You regularly seem to do something I was about to do (in this case the vote timeline)
Regarding Moody as possible teammate for Madge, and to follow up on my FoS from yesterday:Here
Madge does votals, sees Moody as being the only one on 2 votes, and votes one of half a dozen or so people on one vote to "make him part of the conversation". The vote for Misnomer I already discussed, but essentially seems to be a flip in position. This seems to me to probably be a result of team discussion (for the record I believe scum likely have day chat, since I did as scum in nightless Smalltown), and decision that Misnomer is dangerous. However, if I were scum, I'd have thought it better to push an existing townie wagon more than try and start a new one, which suggested to me that moody is scum. On the other hand, it is possible that Madge was simply trying to look townie by voting for a different townie.
Relatedly, in the same post, and once or twice thereafter, Madge defends moody as saying that his playstyle is no different from normal. Although this is my third game with him, I haven't developed a meta-read for him yet. Can anyone else confirm or deny that moody is playing like he normally does?
Moody post summaries following re-read:
Ok, I'm pretty confident that Moody is scum. Here's a list of reasons why in addition to the Madge voting pattern:
1. His "nervously neutral" point, given that he had others leaning scum who are completely new. This could just be being wishy washy town on its own (see my own reads lists with most people in the neutral camp), but Madge's flip doesn't really help him here.
2. He has Misnomer as a townie read, except for appearing to be SDK. I don't follow this train of thought, especially given that SDK's playstyle is pretty aggressive as town. Of course, a townie read is fine, except for the fact that he later says that he is not opposed to a Misnomer lynch. Given our knowledge of alignments, this looks like scum trying to encourage along a townie lynch wagon, except with the opportunity to say that he didn't want it later on.
3. His reads posts is very low on content and has almost everyone in the neutral camp (but again see 1 regarding wishy washiness).
4. Not a solid point, but his comment in response to Sabrar about Madge potentially bussing him as scum reads oddly to me if he is town. Without context, I'd have this as very scummy, but the context does bring the comment away from that end a bit.
5. Again a minor point, and could have come from a town player, who I'm misreading, but his comment on his scummy meta pinged me slightly along the lines of downplaying peoples scummy reads on him and hoping that they'll drop them.
6. Other gut feelings from the way he posts that I can't easily explain, but I'm hoping others share.
At this point, I'd usually vote moody, but I also agree that the poison effect is likely to be fatal, so I don't see a particular reason to lynch him for now, as most of my arguments don't hold if he's some kind of single scum team member, since he wouldn't know the alignment of anybody else (unless he is the only surviving team-mate of Madge, but in that case there'll be another scum faction somewhere, I'm sure). The only reason to lynch him would be if he were the sole member of a scum team, to remove their factional ability. If the poison disappears or he doesn't die soon (at least before D4, possibly even if he doesn't die N2), we should lynch him then.