Carlington wrote:@kalira: I mean I believe her claimed power and alignment, and believe I know what her role name and wincon are. I think you know enough about the flavour to have figured out the same, if you look at her posts. That you haven't yet given any indication that anything in her posts tipped you off is suspicious to me. You don't seem surprised enough, for someone with flavour knowledge.
Well I was trying to avoid throwing too much flavor out and giving her information she wants. I did say I thought Fain was more likely than Elyas, but I was trying to see if others were of the same bent before going any further, because everyone seemed like they were fine with just accepting what she claimed at the beginning of the day. More specifically, I was trying to see if anyone on a theoretical scum team with her would slip up.
But if you really want me to throw it all out on the floor, I can. Em is definitely Padan Fain, if her softclaim is anything to be believed. She says she's searching for a dagger. Dagger is definitely the one from Shadar Logoth that Fain is obsessed with. At this point in the story, though, the dagger was I believe locked in a box with the Horn of Valere, and Fain was trying desperately to get to it. So if em is looking for the dagger, it's likely someone in game "has" it. Whether or not the person playing the character with it knows they have it, I don't know (obviously) -- they may have been told they have it, or it could be just in the mod's notes that X person has it without their active knowledge. It could be with a few people in my estimation based on flavor. Not going to go into any more detail or opinion there, though, unless consensus asks for more.
I still don't know that I believe the tracker power -- in fact, if she's telling the truth about looking for someone, based on my experience with Mafia, that would be what shows up as her targeting. Look at kalira to see if she's the one you're looking for, and if anyone's watching, they would see you as targeting/visiting kalira. I can't really see her having multiple night abilities, and again in my experience, the "look for your target" ability doesn't usually combine with a separate power (i.e., if they aren't your target, you get to see who they targeted last night). But that's meta, and I'm not entirely sure if I'm right on that given that I haven't played a game set up by jimbob before. As far as survivor, I'm not sure. Flavor-wise, Fain just really wanted to kill everyone. Just staying alive was never his bag, he was actively trying to murder, like, all the people.
I don't know why you think I'm supposed to feel surprised about Fain -- I said from the beginning that Fain seemed fairly likely to be in game, and if he was, he wasn't going to be on town's side. I was trying not to let the flavor overwhelm how I played -- it was possible flavor was somewhat altered to make Fain less of an active threat to town. I have yet to come to a decision on that piece as of now. Do I think em needs to be killed? Before end of game, I'm guessing that answer is probably, especially if she has the possibility of turning into an SK (presuming she isn't already one). Right now? My gut says yes because of flavor, but I want other opinions, hence why I haven't just outright voted for her already.
Could we get some kind of extension even if Chane is modkilled? At this point, we're <48 hours to deadline, which seems a bit close for major decisions like the lynch to be made without having had any input from one of our players to this point on the day.
Thanks for the response re: PGO non-claim. IDK if I would have made the same decision in your position, but I if that's what you were given, I can see where you were going with it.
Going to make an effort tomorrow to look at everyone else, hopefully given an extension we can look at more than just emlightened today. (@Emlightened, do you mind me calling you em? I can stop if it bothers you or anything, I just tend to shorten names for the purposes of "I have to refer to people a lot of times and I'm too lazy to write their name out a bunch".)