A few more responses to D1 content.
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:Bessie: her first post with content looks pretty poor to me, with most of it made discussing the setup and irrelevant details before deciding not to like kalira or adnapemit for flavour discussion. As noted before, I get the feeling that she's tunnelling too much on kalira and emlightened. I really don't see the connection she sees.
emlightened wrote:bessie seems to be quite back-and-forth, with most of her recent content being between individual players and again suggestive of many non-town/scum. I don't quite see Kalria's writing talent anywhere, though I'm guessing that's from elsewhere? Not got a problem with fishing for answers; probably town.
There are quite a few of you, of which kalira is one, who are able to make a beautifully constructed post, where you present all your thoughts and connections clearly, and make it look so easy. I can’t do that. When I write my posts out, they’re a bunch of random bullet points of things I am thinking. Then I rearrange them and try to draw together and communicate my points (which can take me hours) and I don’t think I’m very good at it. For example, I thought from page 1 that there was a connection between emlightened and kalira. The connection (real or imaginary) is clear in my head but I (apparently) can’t write it out in a way to show everyone else see what I was seeing. I tried in this post
to show the connection by quoting a bunch of things that I thought showed an interaction. Then I made a summary of their posts here
but again I failed to communicate this to anyone and this has been quite frustrating to me. So because I can’t seem to build a case, I usually make lists or I quote and reply, because if I didn’t I would never finish a post.
I generally like what I see here, not sure why bessie would call him Indie other than more "fishing for reactions". Probable town
Seems to me like a second, yet somehow more provocative SDK. The only way I'd be able to tell if she is scum is through process of elimination, and I don't like that.
I called jimbobmacdoodle indie, I had SirGabriel as town. And, thanks for the compliment?
kalira wrote:FWIW, I did remember reading the word poison in the opening flavor. It's a little weird that you're so suspicious of that post because I said "they died because of what they ate" rather than "it literally says poison in flavor."
kalira wrote:Alternately, could indicate the presence of a poisoning power, given that they died because of what they ate/drank.
It literally said poison in the flavor. kalira selectively quoted herself. I think in this post she is trying to draw attention away from what I was reading as a connection with emlightened.
On to D2.
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I received a gift of sorts last night, but don't wish to discuss further details at this point. If I suddenly keel over and die, you should probably lynch the gift giver.
This is an odd comment. How are we supposed to lynch the gift giver?
Considered FoSing emlightened and kalira over comments of flavour. 8-3-1-1-1 setup spec.
There was a lot of focus on kalira who did turn out to be scum but I'm not sure if this is good scum hunting or a plan to get kalira lynched and flip scum. I didn't see anything odd in what kalira posted but maybe I was just looking at it too differently or maybe bessie knew something I didn't. Does make a good point about Sabrar and a convenient memory lapse. Either scum has a plan to viciously attack each other to prove their townness or she is town. If I look at other parts of her posts that don't involve kalira or emlightened I would say she is probably town..so I will place her slightly townie.
emlightened: Only provided analysis at the end of day 1. Kalira as most scummy. Could just be trying to distance herself from bessie associating her with kalira or like others actually found kalira scummy.
This got me thinking about whom besides me found kalira scummy at the end of D1.
Summary of kalira opinions on D1:
emlightened- between scummy and neutral
Gopher of Pern- content OK
jimbobmacdoodle- slightly scummy
moody7277- slightly townie
SDK- leans town
SirGabriel- slightly townie
Interesting. My D1 town picks found kalira townie, while my D1 scum picks found kalira scummy. I’m not sure if there is a conclusion I can draw from this though. Adding it to my database.
Gopher of Pern wrote:That last point - if it was a vig, that decreases the chance of an SK, and therefore we have a good chance of their being only 2 scum left. Some claiming might be advantageous.
I don’t agree that a vig kill of kalira decreases the chance of a serial killer. Just from reading the 3 revealed roles alone, we had a roleblocker, and kalira had a possible kill independent of the mafia kill. Town can also have a doctor, bulletproof, jailer, PGO, etc. Oh, I see Sabrar addresses this too in his next post.
Sabrar wrote:You did not post for 3 days (or 2 if you count weekends for half) in a game where 1 post/day is preferred according to the rules.
This remark bothers me a little. It is further indication of Sabrar’s highly organized mind.
emlightened wrote:I wonder if moody and jimbob had the same gift/present giver(s), or if the role is very versatile. Given that moody received information and jimbob probably an item, I'm inclined to the former.
Just to clarify, do you think one player sent two separate gifts?
My role specifies that under certain conditions out of my control(which you as a group can force), I die.
Like you get lynched because because people vote for you
I really hope that emlightened flips scum because I will find it difficult to vote for adnapemit after this.
Gopher of Pern wrote:bessie, why are you tunnelling so hard on jimbob? Do you have a lie detector or something?
I wasn’t intending to tunnel on jimbob. I was answering SirGabriel’s D1 question, which was posted after my D1 participation ended. I hadn’t had an opportunity to get to anyone else yet. Don’t worry, you will all get your turns!
Gopher of Pern, you wouldn’t mind copying and posting this would you?
I am town.
I am not independent.
I am not mafia.
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if emlightened is a Serial Killer - scum reads on confirmed scum, but otherwise struck me as fairly scummy herself, and doesn't vote for kalira, who might have been her night target, thinking that it was more important to her to deal with mafia first.
I’m not following your suspicion of emlightened as a serial killer. Interestingly, on D1 you said you wouldn’t be surprised if kalira turned out to be anti-town with a kill. Incidentally, I’m not seeing kalira as a serial killer’s target, but that doesn’t mean anything.
Carlington, how about some reads?