All right, where did I leave off?
SirGabriel wrote:You implied that it mattered whether dimochka's vote was serious, then FoSed me because, in response to that post, I also implied that it mattered whether dimochka's vote was serious. The only explanation I can come up with is you're scum who drew too much attention to yourself, then panicked and tried a bit too hard to divert that attention elsewhere.
You claimed it was a joke. I said well how can you be sure when dimochka hadn’t even posted yet. And I think that I’ve made it clear this is not about the vote or the seriousness of it.
And yeah, it appears I’ve been exceptionally good at diverting attention away from myself this game.
moody7277 wrote:What is in the thread is obviously open for discussion. There have been a couple of times in which oblique references to outside information were used to game the game (you were involved in one of these), and the results were something I was not happy with.
I honestly don’t know what game you’re referring to here, or when I may have wrongly used outside information. Because I do try not to drag stuff that happened in other games into the current one, unless it’s posted as a response to something someone else brought up. Or unless it’s about me specifically. If I do it to other players it’s usually a general meta read, like so-and-so likes to use a lot of big words as town! Or so-and-so is lurky as scum! I mean, I really try not to say stuff like “well, in this specific game this specific player voted in this specific way, and they were scum, so they’re obviously scum now” as a sole basis for a judgement. Oh wait is this about jimbob and Secret Santa? Ok I did it there. Anyway, this is turning into a distraction so I’ll drop it but moody, if you want to discuss this after the game is over, I’d really like to know if you think I may have skirted the rules, because that’s not the type of player I’m trying to be.
I may as well go here next:
moody7277 wrote:Her first part looks like she's getting into Poe's law territory; either the joke is so obvious you don't need clarification or the lack of clarification makes you take it seriously.
I had to google Poe’s Law and I don’t want TV Tropes to suck up the 20 minutes I have before I need to leave. So I’ll get back to this after I figure out if I’m being dissed.
I got sucked into the TV Tropes rabbit hole, and I think you may have been uncomfortably on the mark about me. Because I’m not still not sure if you were joking, irritated, inferring I was scum, inferring I was dense, being sarcastic, being serious, etc. (and bessie earns yet another x on the DSM checklist….)
moody7277 wrote: I was just curious as to why you waited until dimochka actually voted you to make your vote. I've normally come to think of any immediate counter-vote as an OMGUS; perhaps I should narrow my definition?
Because I didn’t want to end the random voting stage before everyone had a chance to post. I never joke vote, but others enjoy it. And it does give us some content to analyze later.
Now that that’s out of the way, let me see what else I need to address in Sabrar’s post.
Sabrar wrote:- she's going after dimochka hard due to an obvious joke
What I find obvious is obviously not so obvious.
One interesting thing
I found in that last game:
bessie wrote:Is the militant atheist a real role? I always thought that was a joke because I never understood how you could actually have one in a game.
There was a reply to it but bessie didn't acknowledge that in the thread as it was irrelevant to the game.
Oh. What I got from SPACKlick’s and Vytron’s replies was that it was a real role, and they had played games that either contained this role, or where this role was common enough to be seriously considered as being in the game. And we have had more less-common roles around here lately.
- However this is clearly over the top:
bessie wrote:There is no militant atheist in the game. dimochka’s vote did not show up in the votals.
At that point of the game D1 (and thereby the game itself) didn't even start, so any vote made during confimation phase would definitely not be included in the votals. To make a point specifically about that seems like overkill and not willing to let go.
You have me there. I thought dimochka’s vote was not counted because it was not valid (as in content not timing), which may still be the case. But now jimbob’s confirmed that it wouldn’t get counted anyway because he didn’t count votes made during the confirmation phase. And so goes part of my argument for what counts as game content.
JudeMorrigan, I’m not following your case on ahippo but I’m planning on doing a little more flavor research before you post again, and maybe I will have a relevant question for you (and good luck at your competition tomorrow!).
And…I’ve been typing for two hours. I’ll pick up with ahippo’s post in a little while.