LaserGuy: reaction post. provided a decent reason for the vote-switch at end of D1. Confused by JDF's role. jimbob/Znirk claim leads to more suspicion of Znirk (but not jimbob?). Suspicion on Znirk builds. "at least two probably more
kills"? Seems to later suspect Znirk and jimbob of being cultbuddies, which I think is a bit much.
bessie: Thinks Sabrar is being a little dramatic about receving one vote. Also seems to think that Znirk and jimbob being cultbuddies is a possibility. Also thinks jimbob's claim to have targeted Znirk is a little fishy, and elucidates the difference between miller claim and indie claim. Doesn't think much is to be gained by analysis of the votals. Makes more clear that she suspects a link between Znirk and jimbob, although isn't sure what - seems to be less suspicious of cult. Asks about jimbob's vote on LaserGuy. Really
wants me to post. (Okay, sorry!). Provides, most recently, a pretty thorough read on LaserGuy.
freezeblade: immediate votal-based FoS. Thinks Sabrar was buddying Znirk and asking for a switch to save a scummate. Claims he would feel the same about JDU, given the same play. Thinks S and Z are telling truth about their convo. Explains the difference between miller and indie claim. Claims to dislike D1 claims. Very solidly reads Sabrar as scum.
plytho: Went back to D1 for this interesting slip -
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I find it interesting that Znirk hasn't changed his vote yet. This might be simply an oversight, but there are 2 players currently with 2 votes apiece, which moving his vote to would make viable alternative lynch candidates (it would only take one person switching from Znirk to Gopher or JustDance to swing the lynch around combined with Znirk's vote).
This is a great point. It makes Znirk look even more like a jester.
After Carlington's vote it doesn't work anymore but I could see myself switching to JustDanceUnlimited. In fact, I'll do it now. I'll be around at deadline to avoid mislynch
Emphasis mine. Defends his position on JDU's wagon. Asks about Znirk's target. Doesn't se Sabrar "convincing everyone", just breaking the tie. Recaps early D2 content, but asks questions and seems genuine in trying to get info. Reads list is focused on who is focused on jimbob/Znirk. Spends a few more posts dissecting it. Finally, in most recentt post, comments on something else.
Znirk: Doubled down on the Survivor thing at the end of D1, given the play about "I have to vote because I have to play to my wincon". I notice this at the start of D2:
Wow. So we lynched the cop, and scum managed to whack the doc? All I hope now is that Dimochka's end-of-day comment about townsfolk hoping to remain mentally intact isn't a pointer to recruiter-scum.
Why? If town ends up in a worse position the game ends sooner and you win. Isn't that what you want as survivor? Confirms jimbob's PM claim. This whole deal smells funky to me, but I don't have the nous to make head or tail of it. Also, the later bit about "I said I was out for revenge but I meant that I showed up late and now I just wanna go home" smacks of post-hoc blather to me. Seems to want to promote the idea that Madge was NK target and saved by SirG, for whatever reason. Thinks the jimbob/him thing was caused by being jimbob's target and some hidden role aspect.
mpolo: Nothing to claim from N2, and then very reasonably left the game. I'll come back and do a D1 read, but this is lower priority for me right now, as I feel a lynch would be a bit of a dick move.
jimbob: Main thing is the interaction with Znirk. What incentive do Znirk and jimbob have to corroborate one anothers' stories? Anything more than just not wanting to look like liars? Claims not roleblocker, focus on giving info about Znirkgate. Seems legit and it's good for town to have this info in the open, so I'm happy so far. Claims redirector + ?. Thinks Madge was benefactor of a doc save. Provides some light reads and analysis, asks some decent questions. Heavy suspicion of LaserGuy.
Sabrar: Scattershot replies and thoughts - seems frustrated and thus reacts negatively to being voted. Seems very frustrated with GoP. Moves on to spending effort on trying to figure out the jimbob/Znirk affair, and then speculative suspicion of Madge as SK/cult leader based on one throwaway line. I guess I've seen scum nailed by as much before, though...
GoP: Wants to gain more from vote analysis but seems to be stymied by number of people on "easy" lynches. I don't believe I agree with Sabrar's assessment that GoP is a jester - he doesn't look like he wants to be lynched. I don't like his lack of concern about lying town. Claims to dislike claims in general unless strictly necessary, and has a bit of back-and-forth with Sabrar that boils down to different usage of the word 'scum'
Madge: Seems to think Sabrar vs GoP is town vs town? Doesn't believe scum!Sabrar would buddy Znirk if they were scummates. Likes plytho's post, and hints at hidden info which would shed light on jimbob/Znirk. Only one real post in this game day (pot, meet kettle)
nu!SirG: Highly suspicious of Znirkbob. No N1 results. Scum pick: Gopher, Sabrar. Suspects cult!jimbork (I am enjoying myself coming up with new names, thank you, and this is my favourite to date).
adnapemit: Very little content - only real post is to question jimbork. (Yep, sticking with this).
As for my thoughts, here's some points of interest:
I don't believe cult!jimbork, but I also don't think jimbork confirming one another necessarily exonerates either one of them. In particular, despite jimbob's confirmation, Znirk still makes no sense to me as Survivor. That said, I can see no reason for jimbob of any alignment to lie to protect Znirk, which makes me circle back around to co-aligned cult!jimbork.
Sabrar seems a little all over the place, and it could be frustration but it could be just throwing things around to find a viable lynch to push. I'm not sure I like the look of him currently.
GoP has said things that I generally do not associate with towny play, but all the same he seems to be playing in a reasonable towny fashion. I guess I can buy that he just has a playstyle which isn't common around here. Still, I'm of two minds.
Madge is almost certainly truly a miller, which suggests either some NK shenanigans or old!SirG truthfully saving Madge.
plytho stands out as town to me, despite that aforementioned slip. I'm inclined to believe it was an honest mistake, although I suppose that's subject to future information, as with all things.
On the whole, my logic currently is running as follows:
- We can gain a bunch of info about jimbob and Znirk by lynching either one of them.
- Znirk is confirmed to not be town
- While lynching indies isn't lynching scum, it doesn't cost us nearly as much as a mislynch, and in exchange we can potentially confirm a member of town, or possibly even unveil a cult and nip it in the bud early.
Thus, Vote: Znirk