I completely agree that not all my suggestions are all that likely, but I'm surprised to see how quickly people are completely ruling things out and find it interesting that I'm apparently judged to be suspicious for even suggesting one or two of them. In particular, whilst I think 1 or 2 are the most likely (probably 2), I could see bessie's power being something like, "you must always have a vote on somebody, but it shows up as being on somebody else" (hence 3), or DethStalker always appears to have a vote on them, if they have none, while my ability is a double-vote under certain circumstances (note - I'm not claiming this, but it's possible from everybody else's point of view).
BoomFrog wrote:Far too concerned with nothings.
Why do you dismiss my topics of focus as "nothings" at this point?
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:SDK's confirmation of bessie this early on strikes me as odd. It may of course be a complete fabrication, and I can't help but feel slightly suspicious. Initially I wondered if he was in fact a lyncher for bessie (or her character). mpolo had lynchers in the last Shakespeare game, where there were hidden characters, who won as long as their target died before them (actually, we joined town and had to win with them to be precise). SDK would claim to know that bessie is town, in the hope that scum might bump her off for him with no effort.
I don't follow this line of reasoning. Surely the worst thing for a canonical lyncher would be an explicit townie read on their target. How would they then lynch them? Such a move would make their target more difficult to lynch and more easy to be killed by mafia, a dreadful result for the lyncher.
A confirmed townie is one of the most likely players to get killed by a night kill, and that would fulfil the lyncher win condition from the last Shakespeare game. Lyncher!SDK might believe that it is going to be almost impossible to get a lynch on bessie (what with her having a really townie meta), so is hoping scum will do his work for them.
LaserGuy wrote:The opening flavor is suggestive of two kills, and four or five more experienced people seemed to accept this as the likely scenario. It seems perfectly reasonable to me. Do you have reason to believe otherwise?
No comment at this point and your question struck me as role-fishing. My question wasn't about why you thought two scum teams were likely, it was about why they were likelier than SK/scum.
Gopher of Pern wrote:Also interesting to note, jimbob mentioned that mpolo explicitly said 9 people not voting, but mpolo didn't mention how many not voting in the latest votals. I'm not sure what to make of that.
I noted that as well, although thinking about this more makes me realise that a secret-voting player would show up as not voting, so it doesn't really imply anything, unless mpolo never lists the names of the players not voting (if he did it would be obvious who the secret voter is).mpolo, can you confirm the number of players not voting in the next votals, please.
Detailed reads will follow tomorrow.