alright, time to lay it all out. stream of consciousness. easier to just get my thoughts out this way. ill revise later (capitalizing and fixing typos) if people find this hard to read. right now i need to get some rest though. Update
jim, tbh i still need to read his posts today. i haven't really dug into them yet just due to trying to keep up with current stuff and my attention always being drawn to other things. plus if he is scum, i don't suspect he's the type of player to be an early play or a play at all based on what was said about his last scum game. im kind of hoping to get the info on megaman at some point to determine whether or not moody actually had insight on this slot. if so and jim isn't on a moody's team, id definitely take a look at frozen. nothing else about frozen's play is scummy to me though so he's essentially town to me unless jim is actually sk. i haven't gone into this much because i wrote it down in my diary. when i die, this diary is revealed to the town. ive been keeping some thoughts there, which is why i havent used the gojoe thread.
laser is obvious scum i am not even joking. that last post he made agreeing with ran cuts the cake lmfao. so scummy. far scummier than any thing else anyone has done this game. man i kinda just want to be lynched just so ran and sabrar will take arms against laser. plytho has a really contrived town read on laser, so i'd keep that in mind on a laser mafia flip you connection hunters.
laser is being so manipulative! his play is centered around appealing to ppl to get them to do things. his sudden tr of me was just because he saw buddy opportunity there. since i didn't react negatively to his case and town read him, he dropped it and tried to use me for other pushes. first with Frozen. he thought i would join but didn't and no one else but gamma did. when he couldn't get that he went for plytho and tried to get me and boom to join. but that failed too and now that he sees that he can't actually use me, he has started to reverse his read haha. the biggest one is his agreeing with ranmaru here:
I find it troubling, especially compared to his behaviour on the D1 wagon. This wagon, IMHO, came up a lot stronger and with a lot less resistance than the moody wagon did. Considering that Gamma is a townread for him, I would have expected that he would have been asking the plytho wagon for votes by now, or been trying to peel soft votes off of the Gamma wagon for one of the others. Or, at the other end, contemplating switching to the plytho wagon (or presenting some other alternative). Yeah, this bothers me a lot
it's so obvious that he's stroking ranmaru's **** here! tryna fuel ranmaru's read on me. let me ask this @anyone, do you agree that I wasn't really making an effort to push spak? i understand tunnel-minded ran for this. he's done this before. once he sees someone as scum, it's hard for him not to see everything they do in a scum light. but i think that any unbiased person would see that ive seriously been investigating spak and trying to get people to shift their opinion of him. laser here is taking advantage of ran's tunnel. he's using
i noticed this same griminess earlier when he was talking about the two gang groups. he totally twisted what spak was saying and made it out to be that the two factions were battlin it out in thread. makin a web of opposing connections that he can use to justify multiple mislynches. he's tryna make town think there's something that there's not so that we'll be focusin on the wrong thing.
lasly, his reasoning for gamma town makes me wanna throw up. he's town reading him cause he thinks scum or coordinating the push on him. but he's not tring him for another reason? if he's not town reading gamma for anything else, why would even matter if he thinks scum are on the wagon. especially since he's been so adamant about there being two teams
. if gamma is not mafia, laser's reasoning here is classic mafia: get townie points for defending against the mislynch, then have an excuse to push everyone on the wagon. another multiple mislynch path. am i the only one that has gotten this vibe from the way laser has gone about this wagon?
i feel like bessie has been surfing over me much of the game. and i agree that the lack of interactions she's had with me is weird. it's taken her quite a while to commit to a read. ive even intentionally dropped little things here and there to see if she would respond to them on her own (such as the point about her asking for claims). plytho made a lot of good points on bessie too. people should read it. bessie has also surfed over a number of other ppl. the big ones being spak and jimbob (though i can't blame her for the latter, jimbob is a tough one to dig into). she has kept herself at a distance from those three (zen, spak, jim) all game. this despite jim having been one of her main scum reads (d1 in particular). ive been waiting all game for her analyses of these slots. and every time i think she's gonna do it, she just kind of glances over them. this makes me feel that scum!bessie is having difficulty faking reads on these slots. she's also having difficulty fake hunting. she has not really made any real pursuits to unpack her scum leads (such as jim and plytho).
furthermore, plytho was actually in the right in the whole bessie v plytho thing. although plytho's "we gotta make sure protectors see it" thing was pretty wack, it didn't make much sense for bessie to react the way she did towards plytho when he pointed out her not mentioning pws claim. she could've easily told pw not to say any more and make clear to plytho what he concerns were. instead she just talked around it until finally coming up with an answer d2. this to me is one of the weaker points on bessie though because it's possible she reacted this way due to her past experience with plytho. that past experience could've caused her to misread the situation here.
lastly, another small point. i made it before about how she asked if os provided safe claims. yet she specially made note of having read my os mod meta post. so she either a) skimmed it and missed that i provided that info or b) pretended to miss it so she could try and "town slip". honestly this kind of makes gamma seem scummy for taking this as a town tell now that i think about it. anyway, if it is the case of a and she skimmed it, i think this also indicates scum bessie. from what has been stated in this game a number of times, bessie is big on set up speculation. for her not to have fully read that post is a huge red flag. especially since it's the very post that seemingly convinced her not
to speculate about the setup, which she stated.
i have to say, im not as positive on spak as i was. his catch up posts are pretty good and seem stream of consciousy. im willing to gamble on the idea that town!spak wouldn't not seriously have the read he does on boom though. but honestly im not as sure on spak as i am on laser. i just don't know if i can get the support for a laser push.