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Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:42 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
Red Ryu's interactions with me were weird. His read on Frozen is weak, and he didn't answer me when I asked about why.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:42 am UTC
by #HBC | Zyth
Sabrar wrote:If jimbob is scum then Ryu and BF look good for not switching. Unless FF is also scum.

Consider the fact that mafia!Jim knew that he was claiming an anti-town role that was very likely to procure his lynch. It is very likely that mafia!jim was a planned bus.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:43 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
#HBC | Red Ryu wrote:Ran and Zen seem coordinated with being online at the end of today. At least with how communication went with waiting for being online.
Mcould be trust for activity but random brewyu thought.


I don't get the purpose of stating this when we are his town reads.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:44 am UTC
by Sabrar
BoomFrog wrote:
Sabrar wrote:If jimbob is town it's either FF+Ryu or BF+Zen.

Why?

FIrst should be obvious. Second relies on read-lists mentioned earlier plus Zen reading you super-townie most of the game (like she said she would her buddies).

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:45 am UTC
by Sabrar
#HBC | Zyth wrote:Consider the fact that mafia!Jim knew that he was claiming an anti-town role that was very likely to procure his lynch. It is very likely that mafia!jim was a planned bus.
If FF's town then they could have switched without looking too suspicious as wagon was driven by EGW.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:47 am UTC
by BoomFrog
Evil George Washington wrote:Boom what is your read on Ryu?

75% Scum. He's my preferred lynch tomorrow, and would have been today if Jim's power was weaker. Although it sounds like he stuck to JimBob so if Jim is scum and there's still only one kill I'd want to delay that. If Jim is scum and there's only one team I'd say 30% scum.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:48 am UTC
by #HBC | Zyth
Sabrar wrote:
#HBC | Zyth wrote:Consider the fact that mafia!Jim knew that he was claiming an anti-town role that was very likely to procure his lynch. It is very likely that mafia!jim was a planned bus.
If FF's town then they could have switched without looking too suspicious as wagon was driven by EGW.
FF is still scum on mafiajim. Especially looking at the connections that Laser and I pointed out. There's a minimum of 4 mafia in this setup btw.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:50 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
Zen, updated reads on Boom, Red Ryu, and Frozen?

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:52 am UTC
by #HBC | Zyth
Evil George Washington wrote:Zen, updated reads on Boom, Red Ryu, and Frozen?
Yellow, Red, Red.

Also, I unFoS Laser for now. Too many other scummies.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:54 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
Red Ryu, speak to us. Why is Jim scum to you? Have any updated reads? Why didn't you budge?

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:55 am UTC
by #HBC | Red Ryu
Evil George Washington wrote:
#HBC | Red Ryu wrote:Ran and Zen seem coordinated with being online at the end of today. At least with how communication went with waiting for being online.
Mcould be trust for activity but random brewyu thought.


I don't get the purpose of stating this when we are his town reads.


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Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:56 am UTC
by #HBC | Red Ryu
Evil George Washington wrote:Red Ryu's interactions with me were weird. His read on Frozen is weak, and he didn't answer me when I asked about why.


No one has had a legitimate reason for him being scum outside of, well he is inactive, which whoop dee doo so has a lot of people.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:57 am UTC
by #HBC | Red Ryu
#HBC | Zyth wrote:
BoomFrog wrote:
#HBC | Zyth wrote:]Are you for real. Frozen is definitely not less likely scum on jimafia.

Pretending to analyze but doing nothing is way scummier then shamelessly lurking.
Agreed. Read Frozen's last post though. He soft claimed for literally no reason. All of his posts have been self-serving like this the past two days. And he was overplaying the "townie af tone" in that post too. I'm of the opinion that both wagons were likely mafia. I very much disagree that jimafia = town Frozen.


Too much meta in the second half, first half is unsubstantiated bull.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:59 am UTC
by BoomFrog
I feel bad for missing deadline, but I don't think the outcome would have been different.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:00 am UTC
by BoomFrog
Goodnight and Good Night.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:00 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
:roll:

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:04 am UTC
by #HBC | Zyth
#HBC | Zyth wrote:Potential doc, no need to protect me. My results will be saved even if I die. Protect someone more valuable.

#HBC | Zyth wrote:Ruy was my target, don't block him. Hopefully he'll send me Boom and himself.


Goodnight.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:58 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
Hello Plytho. Any thoughts on current events?

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:03 am UTC
by plytho
I'm still half asleep so my thoughts may not be coherent and I mostly keep thinking about LaserGuy's claim.

Do you have any specific questions?

I'm expecting jimbob to flip town so my suspicions remain the same FF, Red Ryu and BoomFrog.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:06 am UTC
by plytho
Especially since their behavior around the lynch was pretty weird.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:09 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
With Boom as your scumread now, what do you think of his vote and actions in relation to Moody D1?

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:15 am UTC
by plytho
I haven't really taken a good look at his defense yet. He's said himself moody was being bussed and had given up. And moody may have been telling his mates to bus him (or did Sabrar say that?). So I can see Boomfrog's vote as a way to get early bus credit on a buddy with a scummy meta that's likely to get lynched (particularly with a bunch of new players).

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:23 am UTC
by plytho
I'm trying to figure out if I can trust LaserGuy at this point.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:29 am UTC
by LaserGuy
plytho wrote:I'm trying to figure out if I can trust LaserGuy at this point.


We have already established that you don't trust me. Now, granted, I don't trust you either because I think it's quite likely that you're scum, but you already knew that when you recruited me, and I made that abundantly clear in our chat.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:34 am UTC
by plytho
How have we established that?

You've established that I can't trust you to keep our chat secret :roll:

Explain to me why claiming was pro town.

I'm trying to figure out how much I need to read and figure out right this minute.

If I can trust you I'm in no hurry because I can tell you in chat so you can tell town my views in case I die.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:34 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
Why did you recruit LaserGuy, Plytho?

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:36 am UTC
by plytho
BoomFrog wrote:
plytho wrote:Here BoomFrog is saying he was trying to undermine the moody lynch because the wagon was suspiciously strong. Referring to the point he asked bessie to move to moody as the point he decided to switch (which is obvious as he votes moody in that post).

The problem with this is that the moody wagon wasn’t strong at all at that point.

This is the last point where BoomFrog was fighting the "strong" wagon.

Of course the moody wagon wasn't strong when I switched. That's why I switched at that point, because support for it was starting to wane and especially the driver EGW, had moved on. That indicated to me that EGW didn't have a specific agenda and I could trust my moody read and vote him. We are definitely misunderstanding each other, because I don't think you would try to be illogical to make a case as scum.
I'm saying the moody wagon wasn't strong when you were undermining it. That was pages before you switched.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:42 am UTC
by plytho
Evil George Washington wrote:Why did you recruit LaserGuy, Plytho?
I had the choice between him, bessie or no one.
I wanted to use my power so I didn't choose no one. I read both as town at that point. My bessie interactions at that point were unpleasant and unfruitful. I didn't want a copy of that in chat. I figured I could at least talk with LaserGuy.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:43 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
plytho wrote:
Evil George Washington wrote:Why did you recruit LaserGuy, Plytho?
I had the choice between him, bessie or no one.
I wanted to use my power so I didn't choose no one. I read both as town at that point. My bessie interactions at that point were unpleasant and unfruitful. I didn't want a copy of that in chat. I figured I could at least talk with LaserGuy.


Plytho, why were you resistant to the idea of rallying townreads for votes?

LaserGuy wrote:-He hasn't really made any efforts to try to convince me he's town, so I don't really understand why he bothered to bring me into chat in the first place.


What has he done in chat with you?

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:52 am UTC
by plytho
I expected the response to my call for votes to be suspicion. Zen posted the Kefka role which is anti town and vote based.

So what I'd expect is for people to ask me to claim my power, which I didn't want to do. Then I'd expect everyone to avoid voting for me and only do so if they were sure they would lynch me.

That's why I didn't ask D1 or D2. By N2 I had two town reads voting for me so I didn't even consider it any more.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:52 am UTC
by plytho
Was that second question to me or LaserGuy?

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:54 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
LaserGuy.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:55 am UTC
by plytho
Btw here I answered madge with my power in mind.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:56 am UTC
by LaserGuy
plytho wrote:How have we established that?


I asked you a bunch of questions in the chat and gauged your responses. What did you think I was doing?

plytho wrote:You've established that I can't trust you to keep our chat secret :roll:


You never gave me a reason to. It's not like you actually had any intention of doing anything useful with the chat anyway. I'm seriously baffled by how anti-town your usage of this power has been. What's the point of having chat with players that think you are scum if you are town? Yes, you take a bit of a risk by asking for a vote, but so what? You were never a serious lynch contender; you could have afforded to pick up a few scum points early in the game. You're more concerned with escaping notice than you are with actually winning the game. Your usage of this power is scummy.

plytho wrote:Explain to me why claiming was pro town.


Well, if nothing else, now you can recruit Zyth and EGW into your chat :roll:

I'm not sure why you wouldn't expect me to call you out for scummy behaviour.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:58 am UTC
by LaserGuy
@EGW: Have you read the spoiler here?

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:01 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
No, thank you. By the way LaserGuy, what is your thoughts on recent events?

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:14 am UTC
by LaserGuy
For the most part, the players I expected to act townie, acted townie, and the players that I expected to act scummy, acted scummy. The only real exception to this is BoomFrog. He is definitely on my reread list for the night. I did not like his play at all.

Ryu especially is looking very bad, Frozen not much better. I still think that jimbob was likely the best lynch candidate because the risk of him being scum with his power is too great.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:15 am UTC
by LaserGuy
I guess Madge being completely AWOL for the lynch is not looking good for her either.

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:21 am UTC
by mpolo
I feel so deprived in my time zone -- 5 pages after I go to bed and the hammer on the fourth one…

Will read at least pages 66 through the end during the night…

Re: Crossover Mafia | D3 | 10/06

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:22 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
LaserGuy wrote:I guess Madge being completely AWOL for the lynch is not looking good for her either.


Agreed.