Re: Secret Santa Day 2 - An Explosive Night
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:24 pm UTC
@moody: have you analyzed the scenario where scum!jimbob has roleblock?
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Sabrar wrote:@moody: have you analyzed the scenario where scum!jimbob has roleblock?
Is it in your role-pm or did you ask the mods?moody7277 wrote:Sabrar wrote:@moody: have you analyzed the scenario where scum!jimbob has roleblock?
My power has priority.
Why are you answering questions for someone else?bessie wrote:Well, it was specifically pointed out by me here on P7, in a reply to a question from moody, so he must have forgotten.Sabrar wrote:Did you forget about full role-pm being made public upon death?moody7277 wrote:That's what the whole panicky "in case I die" post was about; I wanted town to be able to disentangle results should worst come to worst.
In your role-pm or as a response to a question?moody7277 wrote:1. That statement was part of what I got from the mod.
Sabrar wrote:In your role-pm or as a response to a question?moody7277 wrote:1. That statement was part of what I got from the mod.
Sabrar wrote:Still, let me rephrase it to a simple question that can be answered with yes or no. Did you learn that your ability has a higher priority then a roleblock from your original role-pm?
Liri wrote:moody, did you use your power last night?
I don’t usually, because I don't do good meta-type reads or have reliable gut instincts, and that is the primary reason I don’t consider myself a good scum hunter. Contrast that with someone like SDK, who can build a behavior-based case on someone or just get the wrong feel from their content (and is legendary for being able to spot scum based on their confirmation post).Sabrar wrote:@bessie: but seriously, since when do you make meta-reads like that?
moody7277 wrote:Liri wrote:moody, did you use your power last night?
That was my starting point on why I figure jimbob is town.
Liri wrote:I'm glad I'm getting my newbie town tells in while the getting's good.
I like that he noted an issue with town scum lists (which is that scum make them too) even though he drew the wrong conclusion (lists are scummy). His reads list here was mostly opinions on posting style, not on content, except for the part about moody. He finally did a reads list (post above this one), and doesn’t agree with me on Sabrar. Slightly townie, D1 content would be suspicious if not for his newbie status, but I like the effort he put in to his last post.Liri wrote:From reading two previous games, now, it looked like giving ranked town->scum lists was vaguely scummy. Easy for the baddies to put each other on the slightly town side of the median and skim by to an extent. I didn't keep detailed notes of who did it so I could be totally talking out of my ass.
somitomi wrote:bessie wrote:Would you admit it if Sabrar were not in the game?somitomi wrote:Sabrar wrote:I've concluded that somitomi is the indie. Of course he'll never admit it, not after X-Men.
Well of course I wouldn't, not when you are in the game...
On a more serious note, that would probably depend on my win condition and what town would do if I revealed something about it. There might be an opportunity for fake-claiming some other indie role, but given my little experience I'd be hesitant to try such a gambit.
I’m not sure I understand your comment. moody knew whether or not he used his power. This post pings me too.somitomi wrote:bessie wrote:Your explanation sounds reasonable in that if you thought that plytho was going to be the target, then you would be setting yourself up to take the kill, which would be a townie thing to do.
That too applies only if moody used their power, which isn't clear to me at this point. Probably better to keep it that way until all potential claims are out.
Liri made a valid point here. What don’t you understand?somitomi wrote:Liri wrote: Scum'll almost certainly target players that are at least one position away from themselves on the player list, so the NK could reveal who scum isn't (beyond just the victim)
Why do you think that would be the case and what do you infer from that? In fact I'm not sure I understand this completely, what is the supposed targeting habit here?
bessie wrote: He finally did a reads list (post above this one), and doesn’t agree with me on Sabrar.
Sabrar wrote:Kill: somitomi
bessie wrote:I’m not sure I understand your comment. moody knew whether or not he used his power.
bessie wrote:Liri made a valid point here. What don’t you understand?
Only the mods know.somitomi wrote:So...
am I dead now?
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I'm curious to see whether Sabrar was being serious about his day kill following Red Ryu's similar actions in Crossover, where it was discussed that fake day vigs were quite common on Smashboards. Whether it's real or not, I don't know, but regardless, somitomi, you should be able to continue to post until mod-confirmation or otherwise. I would strongly advise giving us any more thoughts you have as quickly as possible, just in case you are about to flip town.
Sabrar wrote:jimbobmacdoodle wrote:By the way, if anybody has a day vig, they definitely should use it on Sabrar now.
I AM THE DAY-VIG
moody7277 wrote:I want to vote Sabrar so bad for that, but scum having a daykill like that would be way OP and we're likely in the close vicinity of MYLO depending on the nature of out independent.