plytho wrote:I don’t think you’ve said anything about that 70% of scum heury. (which I assume implies town wam to you)
This is correct. I don't think the redirect scenario is likely here, and I'm assuming Town!heury would otherwise not lie about a cop result.
You think that scum wam would counterclaim indie town (in the specific case where wam is buddies with Sabrar)
Yes. Theoretically, scum!wam could still counterclaim against Town!Sabrar here, but I think he would only do that with a very, um, aggressive partner, like BoomFrog or Zen, which isn't applicable with the current players.
The main problem I have with your push is that you focus on that 25% and ignore the 75% chance that you get solid info on wam from heury’s lynch. Even if I agreed with you on everything else, this would be a problem.
As I said:
-I had a scumread that I felt needed to be verified. I was uncertain that heury's flip would give the right information, and did not want to end up in a scenario where we have to rely on wam's claim alone as the basis for townreading both players (as I said, I am less certain about GA!heury and scum!Sabrar for a variety of reasons, but that was my rationale at the time).
-I was frustrated
by the lack of actual scumhunting or gamesolving that was going on in the latter half of D2 (and, unsurprisingly, has persisted pretty much all of D3) and felt that the players that were encouraging this behaviour were/are being extremely anti-Town.
You're right. The point I'm trying to make is that hypothetical cop!bessie didn't need to couterclaim/out herself at that point. Nor did somitomi later on. This means that, even if scum knows heury is indie, they still don't know they can safely counterclaim.
You may be right. It would probably depend on the exact composition of the scum team, what sort of chat they have, etc. I'm not saying I'm necessarily right about this (and the point may be moot if heury is scum); I'm showing the reasons for saying what I've said. Do you believe I was being insincere in my concerns when I raised this point? Do you believe that my actions have been scum-motivated?
If heury is scum, why would bessie swing the lynch to him?