Maven89 wrote:I'd guess a setup around 8-3-2 or 7-3-3 or 6-3-3-1, maybe. I don't see any fourth faction being more than a survivor if a fourth faction even exists
I agree with this, though if there is a fourth, I doubt it's a survivor. SK might make sense, assuming my assumptions are correct.
Vicarin wrote:At the moment, I'm mostly worried about what the hell the alien win conditions are, in order to fit with the town win condition.
Maybe I can help with that!
So! Everyone knows there are two alien factions in this game. They are not only named in my role PM, I've also been told (or, heavily implied) that they have very different goals.
1) The Mercora are a peaceful race. There are definitely more than one of them in this game, but the feeling I get from my info here is that they are a race of survivors. I'm basically 100% sure they can win with humans, and I assume they can win with the proper mafia faction as well. Speaking of which...
2) The Garatron are a hostile race. Specifically, they want to destroy all humans. Their relationship with the Mercora is not explicit, but if I'm right about the survivor thing, seems to me that they're willing to let the other faction live.
That helps to narrow down the setup greatly. Typical 13 player balance suggests a 3 or 4 person mafia team. If we have one mafia faction (the Garatron) alongside a bunch of neutrals, that's almost certainly 3. Having a full compliment of 3 survivors in a team feels like too many... it's a nice mirror image, but they would swing the game like crazy (anyone remember Diablo mafia?). There are definitely more than one, so it's a flip between 2 and 3, depending on how much heury took the swinginess into account.
So we've got 3 mafia, and 2-3 survivors, leaving 7-8 other players. The game would be fully balanced if those 7-8 were all humans, but it's also possible we've got 7 humans and one unknown factor there. With only one nightkill (presumably), heury may have chosen to slot in an SK. Not sure. Definitely not an extra survivor though (again, assuming I'm reading the signs correctly).
End result: 7-3-3, 7-3-2-1, 8-3-2 seem mostly likely to me.
The reason I'm sharing this now is based on what heury said about reveals in the morning. You'll get my role name, but not this information. Figured it was pretty important to get that out there in case I die in the night. Got some decent play on the wincon in the meantime, so hopefully this can shake things up a bit for the second half of Day 1.
I think that indirectly answers most of the questions asked of me, but I'll get a full read through done today, complete with a full list of reads. @Sabrar, my feeling at the moment is that bessie is likely town.