Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (N5)

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby mpolo » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:38 am UTC

Madge had both known scum in her scum pile, which makes her look very good.

I'm going to go ahead and admit that I am a jailer. I jailed LaserGuy on N1 as a reasonable town read. I jailed Sabrar N2.

Thus, if we're worried about a cult (and so don't want to lynch an admitted scum member), we do have an option to remove that kill.

I never would have guessed that Sabrar's laughing about my comment that he wasn't NKed was an admission of bullet-proof-ness.
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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby LaserGuy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:45 am UTC

That's very helpful, thanks.

I think I want to see a full claim from Madge. Everything else sort of makes sense to me outside of what she was supposed to be doing N2.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Vicarin » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:53 am UTC

You going to claim anything LaserGuy?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Sabrar » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:42 am UTC

@bessie: any possible indication from flavor or wording by the mod that you were redirected N1?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Madge » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:30 am UTC

Yep, I targeted Bessie. She's not dead or roleblocked so I didn't do anything wrong. I don't think we'll need to get a mediator or anything, because hopefully Mark can drop his suspicion since town is, you know, quite often targeting other town.

I'm happy to claim if people want, though I just realised that in my rush to submit night action (have been sick, didn't know how much time was left in the night, wanted to get something off), Bessie was actually a very poor choice of target :/. I strongly recommend I don't claim though.

Nice: Sabrar, Bessie, Laserguy, BoomFrog

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Vicarin » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:34 am UTC

@Madge: Are you seriously going to claim you used a doctor on bessie?

Also, does mpolo not exist?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Madge » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:04 am UTC

Vicarin wrote:@Madge: Are you seriously going to claim you used a doctor on bessie?


Yes.

Yes, I am.
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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Vicarin » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:25 am UTC

Clearly I should have just claimed that I forgot to target you 2 nights in a row :roll:

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Madge » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:07 pm UTC

If you are a rolecop, you should know that I'm not lying. Unless I'm some sort of role miller.
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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Vicarin » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:13 pm UTC

If you are what you claim to be, YOU should know I didn't target you. So I don't know that you're not lying.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Sabrar » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:03 pm UTC

Would wam's ability give any sort of feedback to the redirected target? In other words was it Loud?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Vicarin » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:33 pm UTC

What a weird question.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Madge » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:44 pm UTC

Vicarin wrote:If you are what you claim to be, YOU should know I didn't target you. So I don't know that you're not lying.


What have I claimed to be?
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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Vicarin » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:51 pm UTC

Someone who would be able to tell whether I targeted you or not?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Madge » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:05 pm UTC

Read my posts again. I claimed I should this might that blah blah blah.

I didn't know Mark targeted me, for example. But he clearly did as I didn't tell anyone I targeted Bessie last night.
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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby LaserGuy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:32 pm UTC

Madge wrote:Read my posts again. I claimed I should this might that blah blah blah.

I didn't know Mark targeted me, for example. But he clearly did as I didn't tell anyone I targeted Bessie last night.


Mark targeted bessie, not you.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D2)

Postby LaserGuy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:58 pm UTC

Madge wrote:Confirm I wasn't targeted by a cop, and wanted to catch Vicarin in a lie, hence waiting to claim. But he had an answer so no dice!


So this was just a lie then?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:27 pm UTC

Sabrar wrote:Would wam's ability give any sort of feedback to the redirected target? In other words was it Loud?
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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:39 pm UTC

Vicarin wrote:I shot Sabrar N1. It should be clear why, now. Rather annoyingly he survived, but oh well. Suspect that he's some sort of commuter rather than just bulletproof though.
Why would you think this, unless a strongman targeted Sabrar?

Sabrar wrote:@bessie: any possible indication from flavor or wording by the mod that you were redirected N1?
No, I have no flavor indication that can be interpreted as redirected. All my favor involves only my perfect prideful logician self. However, the actual wording of the result does not exclude the possibility. I don’t think so though.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby LaserGuy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:40 pm UTC

Pretty sure Vic is suggesting that heury was redirected to me.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:42 pm UTC

Yes I know I'm just wondering why Sabrar didn't see it.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Sabrar » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:53 pm UTC

Because I don't take everything that scum says at face value. heury was basically confirmed Town after choosing to lynch wam instead of NL, there is no need to justify it otherwise.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:05 pm UTC

Sabrar wrote:Because I don't take everything that scum says at face value.
Why were you so sure heury was town at the end of D2? Vicarin and wam were obvious partners, what made you so sure on N2 that hurey didn’t bus wam to protect a more valuable team member?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Sabrar » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:39 pm UTC

I had a town-read on heury for most of the game. Also heury could have chosen NL instead of bussing. And I didn't know N2 that wam would flip scum, where do you get that from?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:52 pm UTC

Sabrar wrote:Also heury could have chosen NL instead of bussing.
How?


Votals at time of heury's wam vote:

bessie - 1 (Vicarin)
Vicarin - 2 (bessie, Mark_Cangila)
wam - 2 (Sabrar, LaserGuy)
No Lynch - 2 (heuristically_alone, wam)

Not Voting: BoomFrog, Madge, mpolo


Order of precedence: Vicarin, wam, no lynch.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:03 pm UTC

Sabrar wrote:And I didn't know N2 that wam would flip scum, where do you get that from?
Really? I pointed it out and specifically tasked you with exposing why here. I picked you because I thought LaserGuy already spotted it, and you would too, unless you also had something to hide.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Sabrar » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:19 pm UTC

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:You can vote "No Lynch". If "No Lynch" gets the majority of the votes (or wins a tied votal), no one will be lynched.
I had another look at the rules and I misremembered this as saying NL would win ties.
bessie wrote:Really? I pointed it out and specifically tasked you with exposing why here.
I'll be brutally honest and tell you that I totally ignored that comment because wam was going to be lynched when I last had a chance to look at the forum and then he was indeed lynched.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:41 pm UTC

Sabrar wrote:I'll be brutally honest and tell you that I totally ignored that comment
I’m torn between reposting a picture of “sad bessie” or “skeptical bessie”.

Interesting how you’re not the least bit curious now though.

So Sabrar, where’s your vote analysis?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Sabrar » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:00 pm UTC

I've moved beyond simple vote-analysis because we have claims and it should be possible to figure this out anyway (and also because BoomFrog hides behind secret reasons). My current hypothesis is that you were redirected N1 and your love for BoomFrog blinds you. Please take another look at this and the way he pushed the 2 cop-scenario all through D2 and when finally he abandoned that he started pushing NL.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:15 pm UTC

Sabrar wrote: My current hypothesis is that you were redirected N1 and your love for BoomFrog blinds you.
:oops:

If BoomFrog is scum, Vicarin and wam don’t know he is on their team. Vicarin-wam-Boomfrog could be certain I was I sane town cop, and should have killed me to confirm BoomFrog, with the bonus of concealing my N2 result. Vicarin would fall on the sword, which he did anyway.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Sabrar » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:18 pm UTC

Unless insanity gets revealed and BoomFrog is outed.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Sabrar » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:18 pm UTC

Also that's still assuming that they did not redirect you.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:21 pm UTC

But they see my flip at day start. They have time to figure out how to play the redirector claim.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:42 pm UTC

I’m pretty busy this weekend but I’ll see what I can do. Some of the things I’m thinking about while I read.

What is the setup?
Am I non-sane? Is my sanity variable?
Why didn’t wam perform the N1 kill?
Why did Sabrar think he was roleblocked N2 if he didn’t have an action?
Who has the ter’angreal?
Why is Madge getting worse at breadcrumbs?

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Sabrar » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:55 pm UTC

bessie wrote:Why did Sabrar think he was roleblocked N2 if he didn’t have an action?
Because the flavor clearly described me being up all night but without any actual game-mechanic attached to it. I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't get a night-flavor if nothing happened to me.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby BoomFrog » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:12 pm UTC

I know I'm good but I've been confirmed by the town cop and I was pro lynching both of the confirmed scum. I don't think there's a third member of the Vic wam team because the only plausible candidates are LaserGuy and me, and Laserguy's definitely not on their team.

We have basically full claimed anyway. I'd like laserguy to claim before I do. Madge has claimed sufficiently in my opinion, she can claim fully after me for thoroughness.
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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby LaserGuy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:23 pm UTC

Sure. I'm a voyeur. I targeted Madge N1 but was blocked. I targeted Vicarin N2, but he had no visitors.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Madge » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:52 am UTC

bessie wrote:Why is Madge getting worse at breadcrumbs?


It wasn't a breadcrumb, it was a message that doubled as a breadcrumb for later.
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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby bessie » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:54 am UTC

bessie wrote:What is the setup?
Am I non-sane? Is my sanity variable?
Why didn’t wam perform the N1 kill?
Why did Sabrar think he was roleblocked N2 if he didn’t have an action?
Who has the ter’angreal?
Why is Madge getting worse at breadcrumbs?

I will be going out and won't be back until very late, but will probably be thinking mostly about #1 and #3.

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Re: Wheel of Time 3 - A Divided Sisterhood (D3)

Postby Mark_Cangila » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:54 am UTC

Some setup spec:
I see a few possibilities:
1. The game started 9-2
2. The game started 8-2-1
3. The game started 7-2-1-1
4. The game started 8-3
5. The game started 7-2-2

1 and 3 are hugely unlikely.

In scenario 2, the 1 may be an SK or cult. If they are an SK, we are at 6-1-1. If they are a cult we are anywhere between 6-1-1 to 4-1-3.

In scenario 4, we are at 6-2

In scenario 5 we are at 5-1-2


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