Um yes, I have become unmotivated since the start of the game, probably because of university-related anxiety. I always feel like I don't have much to say D1 anyway. I know this is a lame excuse, will try
somitomi, I sympathize with your RL issues, being a rather anxious person myself. However, you’re not a newbie, and I think you understand that we need something from you. How about at least an ordered list, and adding whatever you can to it?
SuperJedi – That was a good start, making the list, it gives us something small, but at least something to analyze. Can you pick out a few of players (perhaps start with your scummiest and continue with as many as you can) and tell us what you find scummy (or townie) in their content?
Vicarin wrote: Well, yeah, because I wasn't the one trying to do a meta read. If you say "meta read, bessie's scum", then you'd better be the one providing the numbers. If she can be bothered to provide numbers and you can't, then I'm going to use hers, because I'm not going to make a subjective judgement of every one of those posts. There's a reason why I focused on a meta read that had an unambiguous result for each post.
I think that part of the problem is that analyzing the list is subjective in itself. Sabrar has not defined a clear criteria for sorting the list in such a way to make it objective. Some examples from Sabrar’s analysis
Sabrar wrote: I would actually discard this because
Sabrar wrote: I disagree with bessie here about the classification
Sabrar wrote:I would discard this as well because
Sabrar wrote: I disagree with bessie again
Related and somewhat relevant note: Sabrar, if you want to really dig deep and understand some of the origins of why I analyze confirmation posts, it has more to do with what counts as content. You need to go back to at least Vanillafia
bessie in Vanillafia wrote:However, my vote is indeed serious. And because Carlington asked, here is my reason. I was slightly suspicious of DJ’s confirmation post,
But whatever, Sabrar’s own analysis doesn’t support his accusation anyway.
Sabrar wrote:- she knows she's supposed to conf-post analysis but she views my Joker as an intentional gambit and is unsure how to react because she can't put down an honest opinion
- therefore she deliberately skips that part
Sabrar wrote: Overall count if I'm being generous: 2 scum doing it, 1 scum not doing it, 2 town doing it, 3 town not doing it
Actual count where there was something to analyze: 1 scum doing it, 1 scum not doing it, 2 town doing it, 1 town not doing it
Your analysis in no way supports your theory that I “know” I am supposed to do a confirmation post analysis.
Sabrar wrote: For example me finding bessie scummy for calling my content 'light' when she herself notes that more than half of the players have little content is not a meta-read, I would find that scummy in anyone else as well.
Where was this?
plytho wrote:But acting like there are no safe claims is a natural scummy thing to do and if Sabrar is providing the logic, you don't even need to pay too much attention to agree.
Hmm interesting, just noting this for now.
plytho wrote:Refusing to answer because I don't have enough content is absolutely ridiculous. For one, I'm not demanding you produce more content, I'm asking you to respond to my point. That's a false equivalence. Also, does this mean you won't answer questions from Mark, Somi or superjedi because they don't have enough content?
I’m not refusing to answer your question because you don’t fulfill a word count requirement. I am postponing answering your question until you contribute some content that is not directly related to Sabrar-safeclaim-townslip-modquestion. And I’m not refusing to answer any questions from anyone, your accusation is hmm, let me think of a way to describe it ... false equivalence?
My response to your question: I don’t see how I shifted the question. I felt my point was that the person asking the question was doing so because they wanted to be seen publicly asking it. I did not like your response, which you narrowed the scope of my comment when you implied that scum would only do it to act surprised by the answer (and you also added a comment that made it specific to the case in point). I never said anywhere that scum wanted to do it to act surprised, only that they wanted to be seen asking.
plytho wrote:Sabrar pointed out you missed one, at this point I assume Sabrar has done his homework. You still believe in the pattern even after Sabrar pointed out a flaw so I guess I couldn't actually use it. Hmm
Hmm interesting, just noting this for now.
Sabrar wrote:Further fun math because I was bored.
You wouldn’t want to consider being bored into doing like, a reads list or something, would you?
BoomFrog wrote: bessie - I'm having a lot of trouble here. Her reaction to Sabrar's attack is not what I expected, but I am not confident what alignment the difference indicates. @Bessie: What do you think Sabrar's alignment is?
Hmm, what did you expect? Do you also have a bessie-town-meta checklist, as Sabrar does?
BoomFrog wrote: @Bessie: What do you think Sabrar's alignment is?
When I made this post
I suspected something. I have since changed my mind, and I do not currently lean town on Sabrar.
Ninja'd by 4 posts. Will need to come back to this tomorrow. My electricity was out from like 4 am until about 9 pm, so I couldn't skim in the morning and I had a late start tonight.