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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:50 am UTC

PYP SNES: (No one playing can read)

Spoiler:
So.. I just sorted out everyone's game assignments, and decided to share it here, along with my maniacal rantings. The section on my thoughts was actually typed into the google doc I'm using before deciding to post it here. :lol:

Player’s and their game lists:
Lorenz
1.Secret of Mana
2.Zelda: A Link to the Past
3.Animaniacs
e_e
1. Busby: Claws Encounters of the Furred Kind
2. Zool
3. James Pond 2: Robocod
Ibarra
1. EarthBound
2. Harvest Moon
3. Super Mario World
webby
1. Super International Cricket
2. Mario Kart
3. Tetris Attack
weiyaoli
1. The Addams Family
2. Q*bert 3
3. Super Mario Kart
cjdrum
1. J.R.R. Tolkein's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. 1
2. Kirby Super Star (or Kirby's Fun Pak)
3. Earthworm Jim
ForAllOfThis
1. Earthbound
2. Earthworm Jim
3. Mortal Kombat

Bolded are their assigned games. First thoughts, everyone but Lorenz sucks and needs to be punished. Second thought, Give Lorenz an extremely badass role. Third thought, it really doesn’t matter what weiyaoli sent in, he’s gonna be the mod’s bro again no matter what, since he won it last time.



I mean really people, is it that hard to even attempt FF2 or FF3, or any other Squaresoft masterpiece from that time? :evil: Could it be more obvious that I have an unhealthy raging fanboy boner for SNES Squaresoft games?
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby John Citizen » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:00 am UTC

Lucid Dreamers:
Spoiler:
Aargh...

I had a perfect plan to win (I'm town) if webby was willing to trust me. But I just had to be ninja'ed with a two-vote hammer.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby dotproduct » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:23 am UTC


Cleaning up the Game Queue:



1. At what point should we drop All the King's Men if it's still delayed?

I would suggest if neither mod is willing to run it by the time the next small that hasn't started yet finishes.


2. Is cjdrum somehow still waiting to see if someone else adds there game there?

If not, the bracketed comment should be removed.


3. Will roband still run LS&2SB if he doesn't get a co-mod?

If yes, it should probably indicate that.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby roband » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:20 am UTC

I have a co-mod lined up.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Azrael001 » Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:10 pm UTC

DaBigCheez wrote:Lydhampstead:
Spoiler:
Heh, looks like my hunch was right - PE, I had you targeted for this night's investigation, on the off-chance I actually lived through it <_<

And yeah, in retrospect, I suppose that if you were going to go for hitting me N1, then using the RB on me and killing another was your best shot - otherwise you wouldn't know if you roleblocked someone useful or a vanilla, whereas with the kill you can be certain and the RB still takes me out of action.

It also looks like my earlier hunch was correct, and my coptells were spotted *long* before I actually claimed, so good thing I did, even if it wound up being 100% useless at actually catching us a scum. b.i.o. for MVP? :P
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Definitely. If it weren't for him we might have had a chance. If we hadn't managed to kill the watcher day one, I was going to claim first, in the hopes of getting first claim legitimacy, didn't pan out obviously.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby existential_elevator » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:20 pm UTC

PYP SNES
Spoiler:
I lol'd


PYP SNES (Lataro can't read)
Spoiler:
I will destroy you :twisted:

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby ForAllOfThis » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:06 pm UTC

PYP SNES:

Spoiler:
Lataro, what did you do with Giygas? If I can't be him, I certainly want to kill him.

I can't complain too much because my role is pretty sweet. Earthworm jim has the power to time travel back two days. That's the reason we can't read spoilers, as everyone is brought back alive who died in the two days (I'm assuming with any abilities they had). Using it D2/N2 will be the best bet, unless we hit scum today. Gotta spill some wine so that scum choose to keep me alive, but not enough to get me lynched. Although my first post does plenty of wine spilling, it's also true.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby ForAllOfThis » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:30 pm UTC

PYP SNES:

Spoiler:
Doh.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lorenz » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:13 am UTC

PYP SNES:
Spoiler:
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I will soon rule the game-land and become the most powerf... wait, no night kill?

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:23 am UTC

Lorenz wrote:PYP SNES:
Spoiler:
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I will soon rule the game-land and become the most powerf... wait, no night kill?



PYP SNES:

Spoiler:
Yeah... making a scum faction as a member of one with no NK... that's how I roll.

For those playing at home...

1 Indie Mod's Bro, same as last time.
1 Indie Jester, can't self vote, double wins if lynched D3
1 Indie Militant Atheist, must speak against the mod every post, double wins if they hammer the mod, double voter
1 "scum" "Mana Beast" completely unNKable unless role blocked, takes every vote besides his own to be lynched, can not be lynched by plurality, needs to outlive the town, double wins if last man standing, or is able to force a situation where anyone remaining can not eliminate him.

and lets meet the 3 townies...
1 Town Farmer, passes out veggies, if eaten, the target is roleblocked, double wins if they RB 2 people.
1 Town Time Traveler, Once per game, they are able to push the game back in time two game days, usable at night only. Double win if their doing so saves a yet-to-be-revealed townie who was lynched the previous day.
1 Town Vig, able to NK each night, double wins if they never kill a townie.


Fun Stuff!

Editted to add: The jester has twice per day flavor control from the mod. :twisted:

Oh, and I'm totally taunting him. :twisted: :twisted:
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Garak: "Are you sure that's the moral?"
Julian: "Of course. What else could it be?"
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lorenz » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:25 am UTC

You taunt me Lataro.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Elvish Pillager » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:46 am UTC

PYP SNES:
Spoiler:
Lataro wrote:
If ANYONE makes a post saying they are confirming without any actual content of any kind in it, they will be modkilled, this is not a joke, and there will be no exceptions.


I was sorely tempted to post "confirm" in the thread, to unlock the "Get modkilled in a game you're not playing" achievement.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:22 am UTC

Elvish Pillager wrote:PYP SNES:
Spoiler:
Lataro wrote:
If ANYONE makes a post saying they are confirming without any actual content of any kind in it, they will be modkilled, this is not a joke, and there will be no exceptions.


I was sorely tempted to post "confirm" in the thread, to unlock the "Get modkilled in a game you're not playing" achievement.


PYP SNES:

Spoiler:
Technically... I could always add you to the game, since your post can be taken as consent and interest in playing it, and then modkill you. :P

Achievement Denied! :twisted:
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Julian: "Of course. What else could it be?"
Garak: "Never tell the same lie twice."

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby webby » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:32 am UTC

PyP SNES:
Spoiler:
I'm a town vig, because Lataro thinks cricket is boring. I'll give you a moment to work that one out... I chose the game based partly that if he did the same thing as last game and gave everyone the same role, it might have been a stretch for him to get from my game to my role, and partly in case he was a Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy fan and therefore gave me a scum role. Actually I hope nobody brings that up...

My theory based it on last game is that we're all town, possibly even all town vig's. I'm going to withhold my kill tonight in case that's the case (my bonus win is that I have to not kill any town). I was leaning towards this explanation at least partly because the role PM made no mention of my primary win condition, but a PM to Lataro confirmed that my primary win condition is the elimination of any and all anti-town factions. Of course it's possible they don't exist, and that we get our primary win regardless like last time, but I'm actually not so confident in this explanation anymore (for a start, the best strategy would be to get lynched first :P). But it's the best idea of what the setup could be that I have so far.

Oh and no way I'm sharing that with people if I'm right - I want to see the chaos of many vig kills (and also get an extra win to most people).

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby cjdrum » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:03 am UTC

Homestar Scummer:
Spoiler:
Wait, this is actually ending?

:P
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby cellery » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:04 am UTC

Homescummer
Spoiler:
And you know, I actually was about to post too. Ah well, I s'pose it had to happen eventually.

So, discussion buddies now, Krong. Was nobody sending you e-mails either?

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby ameretrifle » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:58 am UTC

Homestar Scummer:
Spoiler:
Well, that was a clusterfuck of stupid. I apologize for my part in it.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Gopher of Pern » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:18 am UTC

Homestar Scummer:
Spoiler:
Well, that was a fun night. Sure we lost HR, but getting 3 scum? Thats a win in my book. I'm pretty sure a massclaim now should win it, assuming everyone is online and active enough.
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Postby Elvish Pillager » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:33 am UTC

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby b.i.o » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:20 pm UTC

Lydhampstead
Spoiler:
If I didn't know anything about this game's setup, I'd be absolutely sure both GoP and PE were scum. Neither has expressed any sort of opinion that could get them into any trouble all game.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby weiyaoli » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:32 pm UTC

PYP SNES:
Spoiler:
5 bucks everyone is the same role again.
And you thought I was crazy...

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Ibarra » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:56 pm UTC

PyP SNES:
Spoiler:
Really disappointed I didn't get EarthBound.
I don't get why people are jumping over me when I claimed.
Unless of course the roles of the ones who jumped don't want their role to be revealed.
I'm going to keep my eye on wei, cjdrum and FAoT
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:54 pm UTC

PYP SNES:

Spoiler:
Sheesh, even in my own game, I'm getting lynched D1 for no reason! :cry:

It'll be interesting to see what result those votals produce, as well if anyone else hammers me.
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Postby jayhsu » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:26 pm UTC

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby cjdrum » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:01 pm UTC

Mafia + Werewolf:
Spoiler:
Yes, the Doctor successfully blocked the Mafia's kill.

It's actually really ironic - the person who sent in the kill sent it half an hour late, asking if I would still accept it. I said I would. And I did. :lol:

EDIT: I wonder how long it'll take for someone to notice that the "cjdrum" flavour character was "shot and mauled", whereas Misnomer was simply "mauled", with no shooting in sight...
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Postby Misnomer » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:21 pm UTC

Mafia/Werewolf:
Spoiler:
Heh, I managed to draw one of the scumkills at least. Go go cops, make me proud.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Gopher of Pern » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:52 am UTC

Game Idea: (Open Setup)
Spoiler:
I was thinking of a micro setup, 7 players, with different mechanics for scum. It would be a 6 town, 1 scum setup, but no NK for scum. Instead, each night the scum player chooses a player to become the new scum player, and the old scum player dies. The end result is the same, but the scum player changes with every day. Scum wins if they don't get lynched, town wins if they survive.

Game could end on any day, with only 1 scum to find, but each day would be like a new game, with a new scum each time. Only difference being that town is 2 players down.

Would anyone be interested in this?
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Ibarra » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:33 am UTC

Gopher of Pern wrote:Game Idea: (Open Setup)
Spoiler:
I was thinking of a micro setup, 7 players, with different mechanics for scum. It would be a 6 town, 1 scum setup, but no NK for scum. Instead, each night the scum player chooses a player to become the new scum player, and the old scum player dies. The end result is the same, but the scum player changes with every day. Scum wins if they don't get lynched, town wins if they survive.

Game could end on any day, with only 1 scum to find, but each day would be like a new game, with a new scum each time. Only difference being that town is 2 players down.

Would anyone be interested in this?

That would actually be interesting.
The scum faction would then be like a cult.
It's up to scum then to select the towniest looking players.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby cjdrum » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:53 am UTC

PyP SNES:
Spoiler:
I don't actually have to act like this at all... But hopefully it'll get annoying enough by day three that I get outta here!
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:13 am UTC

Ibarra wrote:
Gopher of Pern wrote:Game Idea: (Open Setup)
Spoiler:
I was thinking of a micro setup, 7 players, with different mechanics for scum. It would be a 6 town, 1 scum setup, but no NK for scum. Instead, each night the scum player chooses a player to become the new scum player, and the old scum player dies. The end result is the same, but the scum player changes with every day. Scum wins if they don't get lynched, town wins if they survive.

Game could end on any day, with only 1 scum to find, but each day would be like a new game, with a new scum each time. Only difference being that town is 2 players down.

Would anyone be interested in this?

That would actually be interesting.
The scum faction would then be like a cult.
It's up to scum then to select the towniest looking players.


Not exactly, optimal play would be pick a random person, going by any other system, once you are revealed, it can be used to narrow down your choice the previous night. Sounds interesting...

D1 6 town, 1 scum, assuming town lynch....
D2 4 town, 1 scum, assuming town lynch...
D3 2 town, 1 scum, LYLO

It works out nicely to end in three game days or less, with no awkward "We should NL" situations, assuming you call a 50/50 split a scum win. I like it.
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Postby Gopher of Pern » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:03 am UTC

Yes, NL's are not allowed, though they are very suboptimal. It does depend on player activity though, so scum don't just lurk throughout.

I've added it to the queue. I do have flavour for it, but I don't want to reveal it until it starts (Closed flavour, Open mechanics! Yeah!)
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Postby roband » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:10 am UTC

My turbo has a name!

Magicians.

It will be a semi-open setup, with rolenames being revealed, but not mechanics.
Signups starting shortly.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:09 pm UTC

Resistance 3.5

Spoiler:
Watching their discussion for some reason makes me think about congress and the debt limit debate. :lol:


PYP SNES:

Spoiler:
I dunno, I didn't think the MA would be this outspoken and expose themselves right off the bat. I'm more surprised that no one has really taken a firm stance at pointing out that MA is generally not a pro-town role, especially the three townies. I guess they are all too paranoid about the setup to speak out, hehe. Ibarra keeping a lid on Lorenz rejection of his offer is also puzzling, since it is a bit fishy given the claims made in thread. So far things are going rather differently than I had expected.
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Postby cellery » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:38 pm UTC

Homestar Scummer:
Spoiler:
First, an e-mail I wanted to get off my chest:
Dear Homestar,

DO NOT PUBLISH THIS EMAIL.

I'm an independent. I need to find someone and to help me with that, I have a cop of sorts. I'm willing to cooperate with town, but I won't put myself at risk. I will remain anonymous.

My first result: tastelikecoke is biscuitdoughhandsman, likely scum.

Feel free to accuse them in any way you like, but leave me out of it. If you publish this message (or any of my future messages), the deal is off. My own survival comes first.

Sincerely,
Someone


This was day 2, and I wasn't sure what to think. What I did know is that any way that I release this would either keep future cops from reaching me, or give me away to the OPK. After all, I didn't have a name attached. Fortunately, this was back when I was still (sort of) getting hremails to answer. Didn't get anything like this for the next two days, and I probably should have published this on D4, but I wanted to wait at least one more day.

Also, AMT, it's really, really not your fault.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lorenz » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:43 pm UTC

PYP SNES @ Lataro
Spoiler:
You put me in a tough spot here... It's my fault completely for not considering Ibarra would know the outcome. I have no idea how to play this hand now...
Everything I can think of would just completely backfire...

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:05 pm UTC

PYP SNES:

Spoiler:
Yeah... Lorenz is in a real bind here with this. With Ibarra knowing the outcome and calling him out on it, it'll be hard to talk his way out of this after lying in thread like that. He does have the benefit though of requiring every living player to vote for him though, and with a jester in the mix, that might not happen. If he can get "lynched" D1 and they see that at deadline he was clearly above the lynch threshold and yet a NL resulted, he may be able to re-direct them by making them think he's lynch immune. His only real hope long term though is to have someone act more scummy than him, and to come up with a good reason why he lied.

If it were me, I'd pull a fakeout. Say that I said I ate it so that I could see if Ibarra would know or not, and if he did, use it against him to try and argue that the fact that he seems so tied to the results of this means he's lying about what it does, and try and turn it around on him. While he's still be in a tough spot if Ibarra was lynched and flipped town, he has the "This is a bastard game" card to play to try and catch a break, which will help when it's revealed with Ibarra's role that he knew it was a RB effect.

Editted to add:

After checking the thread, I think he handled himself well enough, it might work out for him.

Also, oh you, e_e, I really don't know how you aren't being lynched right now for claiming so openly. :lol:
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby greenlover » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:17 pm UTC

Werewolf + Mafia:
Spoiler:
Oh, yesssssss. Please, please, please, please keep suspecting me. That would give me a perfect excuse to claim seer. I've been wanting to claim ever since I posted my breadcrumb post on D1. I was starting to fear that no one would suspect me enough to let me claim. But now. . .

Additionally, I suspect at least one if not both of Ibarra and Roband are mafia/werewolfs.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby cjdrum » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:14 pm UTC

Resistance 3.5:
Spoiler:
Adam H is flailing. Epicly.

Also, I like this...
Adam H wrote:At least it could make the preview show the transformed result.
Because it actually does ;)
:shock:

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby roband » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:24 pm UTC

Flavour written for Magicians

Just need to sort the role PMs out tomorrow and I'll be ready to go.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Sruixan » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:46 pm UTC

Death To The Conspiracy (first spoiler of the game, I guess)
Spoiler:
I should have picked an easier game for getting back into the mafia groove. I'm worried that pointing the possibility of a redirect just reeks of track-covering for later when's it's just me trying to be helpful by covering as many bases as possible. To be honest, I remember fretting over a lot of rather trifling things like that before, but this time missteps in this game are a hell of a lot more likely to result in my death and thus harm us townies substantially.

...eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

Also minor titbit; I instinctively wrote my setup listings town/scum. weiyaoli wrote his scum/town. Whether that means anything more than the fact I am incapable of proper brain function in the small hours I really don't know...
This is, er, no offense but you are a robot, aren't you?
That's just, um, beautiful, beautiful beautiful... just beautiful.
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Dr. Ivanovich, was it really necessary?


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