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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby ameretrifle » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:17 pm UTC

Dune:
Spoiler:
Did you not believe NaR when he claimed Paul Atreides (or possibly some other Fremen), or did you not notice me trying to point it out? Honestly I'm not totally sure it wasn't a bluff myself, and mpolo is a good target, but... yaaaaaay my new faction is totally not screwed.

Actually, I should ask what the hell my new win condition entails exactly. It had occured to me that maybe I'd learn more tonight but then cycoden posted he's lost the ability to PM and I was all fffffffff. Soooo tempted to fullclaim. Dunno if the town could/would help me out on my secondary win condition but it's possibly my only hope.

*goes to PM the mod*

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby RoadieRich » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:34 pm UTC

CinC:
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Think you can break my game by no lynching? I'll show you. :twisted:

Random.org ftw: I was anticipating they'd try something like that.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Brooklynxman » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:37 pm UTC

RoadieRich wrote:CinC:
Spoiler:
Think you can break my game by no lynching? I'll show you. :twisted:

Random.org ftw: I was anticipating they'd try something like that.


CinC
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What? No, kill the nl leader. Well, thats how I'd do it, but its not mandatory. But since you decided to be brutal (instead of making nl's into a self-vote).....
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Weeks » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:47 pm UTC

Weeks wrote:I'll probably be up for the Santa Game, unless I'm already playing something else before that. (No more multiple games for me.)
I haven't signed up for anything else, and it starts the 1st. I think I will play. :D
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby RoadieRich » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:01 pm UTC

CinC:
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Brooklynxman wrote:
RoadieRich wrote:CinC:
Think you can break my game by no lynching? I'll show you. :twisted:

Random.org ftw: I was anticipating they'd try something like that.


CinC
What? No, kill the nl leader. Well, thats how I'd do it, but its not mandatory. But since you decided to be brutal (instead of making nl's into a self-vote).....

Actually, I think that works better. Shame MoA's immune to NKs. I'll have to say "there was an attempt on his life" or something.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Brooklynxman » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:16 pm UTC

Weeks wrote:
Weeks wrote:I'll probably be up for the Santa Game, unless I'm already playing something else before that. (No more multiple games for me.)
I haven't signed up for anything else, and it starts the 1st. I think I will play. :D


Ahhh okay it starts the 1st (must have missed that). Hmmmmm. I think that will work. I am working under the assumption at this point that my parents will not find common ground on a Christmas trip in time for me to afford it. Its not like I started mentioning it in SEPTEMBER or anything.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby ahippo » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:16 am UTC

Zoo:

Spoiler:
Everyone wave goodbye to Lataro! I have a kill tonight. And I guess I should have stated earlier. My role/win condition changes every day since I'm submissive to my own imagination. Yeah I'm a submissive hippo just like I said. D1 I was a survivor, D2 I was a serial killer. I can't wait to see D3.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Dark Loink » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:32 am UTC

Zoo:
Spoiler:
Sorry about that, Krong. If you aren't scum, I'll be pretty surprised.
But I had to go with it, because currently I'm town. I say currently because I could always choose to be scum later on.
But so far I'm telling the truth about everything.
And its my fault I'm a miller, I shouldn't have sent that in.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby mpolo » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:20 am UTC

Dune:

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Well, it appears that I just took one for Paul Muad'dib. I actually was trying to suggest that role a bit in my postings, assuming that he was probably very important to an eventual Fremen win, so I guess I can't be too disappointed with this.

I am a desert creature.

And it should be obvious what the Corrino win condition was if you just read my posts, Adacore. I bread crumbed that one pretty thoroughly.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby cycoden » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:52 am UTC

I'm looking at putting together "Scott Pilgrim vs the mafia". I haven't worked out whether it will be a medium, large or invitational yet.

Let me know if:
a) this sounds like an awesome idea
and
b) if you possess flavour knowledge, and would wish to comod.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby roband » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:56 am UTC

@ cycoden -I saw the film and thought it was craaaaaap

Doesn't sound like my kinda thing, but good luck!

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby VectorZero » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:15 pm UTC

We are Sex Bob-omb and we are here to lynch scum and join cults and stuff.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Dark Loink » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:16 pm UTC

Zoo:
Spoiler:
mpolo, you may have a bit more interesting role than you thought. My doctor protection helps with my self-preservation.
Whoever I doctor needs me to survive this game. Oops.

...
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Now he HAS to claim town, becasue he needs me alive! He can't false claim anymore!

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby existential_elevator » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:18 pm UTC

VectorZero wrote:We are Sex Bob-omb and we are here to lynch scum and join cults and stuff.

<3

I would play this

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby BigNose » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:20 pm UTC

DUNE
Spoiler:
Damn, there goes my Mason buddy AND Cycoden named us both.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Brooklynxman » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:34 pm UTC

Dune
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Well, I ruined the canon, and I am sure it works and is only a one-shot but......of all the people to pick it up. When she figures out what it is she is going to realize only one person is crazy enough to invent it. She better not be evil.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:25 pm UTC

CinC:

Spoiler:
Seriously? Well, whatever, I get a win with the king's death, I'm not against narrowing the list of people I have to choose my target from, I just hope that there are no kill powers and that last night's kill was one shot. If so, they'll have to lynch me eventually, that or my own team will kill me by accident.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Not A Raptor » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:38 pm UTC

Dune:
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DID YOU JUST HINT AT MY ROLE IDENTITY IN THE FLAVOR? WHAT THE FUCK.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Dr Ug » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:51 pm UTC

Dune:
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Ok, so I suck at picking kills this game.

I used random.org the first time and took out a Harkonnen supporter.

Then I used my (apparently faulty) atreides-dar, and took out a spice addict (which I also am, and given the Harkonnen are fairly decimated, that was the win we had decided to go for...)

I think I'll let my buddy choose the next kill...
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby VectorZero » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:36 pm UTC

Not A Raptor wrote:Dune:
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DID YOU JUST HINT AT MY ROLE IDENTITY IN THE FLAVOR? WHAT THE FUCK.

NaR cannot read:
Spoiler:
Did I? Nope :twisted:
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby ameretrifle » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:01 pm UTC

Dune:
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And I went to see the Widow, and I heard her ask: if a claim falls in the desert and no one makes a sound, did anyone read it?

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:30 pm UTC

CinC:

Spoiler:
So I got to choose anyone to kill when lynched, I chose AMT.

No hard feelings, right? :twisted:
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby VectorZero » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:48 pm UTC

ameretrifle wrote:Dune:
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And I went to see the Widow, and I heard her ask: if a claim falls in the desert and no one makes a sound, did anyone read it?
Spoiler:
If nothing else, it's an interesting experiment in mafia psychology.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby MasterOfAll » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:29 am UTC

Lataro wrote:CinC:

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So I got to choose anyone to kill when lynched, I chose AMT.

No hard feelings, right? :twisted:

Congrats.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby ameretrifle » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:46 am UTC

RoadieRich wrote:CinC:
Spoiler:
ameretrifle wrote:
Lataro wrote:HOLY CRAP THERE IS A ROBOT CHASING ME! WHY OH GOD IS A ROBOT CHASING ME?!

AH ha ha ha ha ha ha totally worth it right the heck there. <3


Lataro has the option of running away, or letting it investigate him. If it investigates him, it will beep once quietly, and loudly twice. If he runs away, it'll go on to the next target on the list. I've yet to figure out what happens if the loop passes outside the bounds of the target array. Can't be too mean (it was written by someone who wouldn't think to incorporate bound checking), but I think it needs to do something, should everyone run away... Suggestions are welcome.

Also, corrupting the requested "magical artefacts" is a huge amount of fun. What is an evil jester going to do with a one-shot "Make someone unlynchable"? :twisted: , or the poor guy who gets a double tracker/watcher if they manage not to say anything comprehendible for the rest of the day...

ROyAL compilers process invalid array indices by default. :P Also, I've never taken a programming course in my life so if that's all that was wrong with the thing I suppose I should be grateful. Also, like I *said*, I had already invested more then enough effort into a program i knew no one was going to care about and would do me no good whatsoever-- I didn't want to spend all day debugging it and then get killed.

...should not be taking offense at this....

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:56 am UTC

Huh, a programmer would make an excellent mafia role.

I can see it working quite well with something that restricted the power, something like.

Role: Computer Programming Student
Power: Each night you can write a program. The instructions must resemble a programming language. The program will be run at the start of the next day interpreted with an eye towards following the request precisely as instructed. Since you are still a student, you are learning all the functions, as the game goes on, you'll be able to write more complex programs with more functions and variables available.

Sample limits could be:

1 variable, 5 lines in length on N1
2 variables, 7 lines in length on N2
Choice of simple pre-defined functions, 2 variables, 10 lines on N3
... ect

That'd be a pretty nifty twist on an inventor power!
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Van » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:23 am UTC

So calling dibs on that.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Elvish Pillager » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:31 am UTC

while (player = get_random_player()) { kill(player) }

The simplest way to limit the power is to, like the bot in CinC, only allow it to output certain predefined signals. A cop, with a single bit of information per night, is already powerful, so it would make sense for the programmer's only real power to be a single boolean return value for the function.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Weeks » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:36 am UTC

amt's code did look like pseudocode to me.

There could be a Programmer's Mafia, where everyone's role is a programmer of sorts. Or languages. (Pick your Programming Language?)
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Weeks » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:39 am UTC

(So mafia DOES teach you things. Just wait a few years, and the government will have institutionalized mafia games for education.)
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:27 am UTC

Zoo:
Spoiler:
So... how did I die?
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Silknor » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:37 am UTC

Lataro wrote:Zoo:
Spoiler:
So... how did I die?


Zoo:
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A now ex-Serial Killer. Who was hungry, hungry.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:45 am UTC

damnit, games need to start! I'm dead in everything I'm in that has started!

I do not feel loved...
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Dr Ug » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:55 am UTC

You should sign up for Lost. So should everyone else.

It will be starting soon™
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby roband » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:25 am UTC

Just realised that I'm in 2 active games and signed up for 3 more.

Hopefully I don't end up in 5 simultaneous games!

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby mpolo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:55 am UTC

Whereas I'm dead in everything but Zoo. Going into withdrawal…
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Postby roband » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:58 am UTC

I think that was my problem before I got into all these games.

Overcompensation

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Dark Loink » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:32 pm UTC

zoo:
Spoiler:
I tohught the listening device was just flavor! :o
Now I have mafia pms. Not going to reveal it as martin w has already.
So I know what scum need to hear masons.
They need me. :P

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Mavketl » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:04 pm UTC

Zoo:
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What the fuck FOAT why are you giving away the third mason? I can't even point it out because maybe the scum magically didn't notice but... what the fuck? Arg!
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Brooklynxman » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:19 pm UTC

Dune
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Command Dr Ug: Command ameretrifle: Dr Ug reveal his alignments and win conditions in thread

Muahahahahahahaha.

Should I or shouldn't I.

Pro: I use up their actions, preventing them from using it. Also, they get supremely pissed and know it was me.

Con: The mod will probably backfire. Because that is a ridiculous abuse of power. An evil, manipulative, I am supposed to be good but am oh so bad abuse of power.

Pro: If it works, it will be the most awesome thing ever in the history of ever.

Con: It will become public, if the manual can still be read over my shoulder......chaos will ensue. Wait, this is a pro.
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