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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby weiyaoli » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:27 am UTC

Smalltown:
Spoiler:
Well, I've probably lost this. If scum doesn't kill me, I'd be surprised.

Although I must say that 3/1 isn't great odds for either lataro/tk. If one of a-wan (I will rage so hard if this is the case but very very well played) or Ibarra is scum then they've pretty much got this game wrapped up.

If the final scum is mpolo, which makes very little sense to me which how the actions panned out (especially with the voting yesterday I'm pretty convinced that one of TK/lataro is scum),then things will a little less sure, definitely the good classic endgame, especially since 3/1 will NL unless they heavily suspect Lataro.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Misnomer » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:38 am UTC

Smalltown
Spoiler:
This is starting to look a lot like a town victory to me. Scum might be better of witholding the kill tonight, instead of going after the wolf...
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby BoomFrog » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:39 am UTC

AtKM:
Spoiler:
Mavketl wrote:
BoomFrog wrote:Also we should set an order to claim in. I'd like: Slbub, Silknor, Mav, Angua. (I'll let someone else put me in the list somewhere.)
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Ibarra » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:07 pm UTC

Smalltown:
Spoiler:
Come on Misnomer, start it while I still have internet D:
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby RoadieRich » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:37 pm UTC

Thing:
Spoiler:
Could it be possible to have a complete game in less than a single page?
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby roband » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:50 pm UTC

You lucky lucky people. I'm giving you a whole extra day to sign up for Lock, Stock. It will start tomorrow sometime

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby RoadieRich » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:18 am UTC

AtKM:
Spoiler:
How's this for a strategy:
1. Truthify has little-to-no use for town
2. Obviously false statements lie detect as false.
3. Anything can be truthified.

If you make everyone post something obviously false, and truthify it, you force scum into a choice of wasting their truthify, or leaving an obvious identifying mark.
What you do with that has a number of options: each player rolls a die, and lie detects it immediately on a 50/50 chance, leave it until later, when you know who looks scummy, and a few I've not thought of.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby BoomFrog » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:56 am UTC

RoadieRich wrote:Thing:
Spoiler:
Could it be possible to have a complete game in less than a single page?

Thing:
Spoiler:
Nope, there at 39 posts already and they need two more for votes, 1 for a mod answer and of course 1 or two for end game decleration. It was close though.

There's really not much to say in a 3 player D1. As town I'd have voted by now. I'm guessing Lorenz is The Thing.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:16 am UTC

Thing:

Spoiler:
It has been done before though, just look at the last sins game I was in. :P


BoomFrog wrote:
RoadieRich wrote:Thing:
Spoiler:
Could it be possible to have a complete game in less than a single page?

Thing:
Spoiler:
Nope, there at 39 posts already and they need two more for votes, 1 for a mod answer and of course 1 or two for end game decleration. It was close though.

There's really not much to say in a 3 player D1. As town I'd have voted by now. I'm guessing Lorenz is The Thing.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby a-wan » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:26 pm UTC

Smalltown:

Spoiler:
I think town can win even if it ends up being 1-1-2.

Here are the scenarios:

If town helps lynch WW, then mafia kills one of the town and it ends up Mafia-Town. Mafia wins.

If town helps lynch mafia, then WW kills one of the town and it ends up WW-Town. WW wins.

If everyone lynches one of the town, then WW kills mafia. WW wins.

But if town votes no lynch then:

If WW and mafia NK the same town or mafia withholds their kill, then it's 1-1-1 which makes town the kingmaker. Mafia wouldn't lynch town, because that's a guaranteed WW win.

If WW and mafia target different town, then it's WW-mafia. WW wins.

If WW targets town and mafia targets WW, then it ends up mafia-town. Mafia wins.

If WW kills mafia, it ends up 2-1. Town can win.

Going through all these scenarios following a no lynch, the two best chances for mafia are if they kill WW and hope WW kills town, or they withhold their kill and hope they can convince town to lynch WW.

Because of this, WW may decide that the best chance for them is to kill mafia and hope they can convince one of the two town that the other is the WW.

Given how things turned out at the end with neither Thirdkoopa nor weiyaoli willing to budge on their mpolo votes, I think it is fairly clear that they are mafia and WW. Hopefully the WW ends up dead tomorrow, but at least there's hope if he doesn't.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby _infina_ » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:30 pm UTC

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:50 pm UTC

My Fun Game of Fun is now in signups! If you can get over the fact that that bum roband is tagging along, come sign on up and have FUN!
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby ConMan » Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:24 am UTC

dotproduct's "Friends and Enemies 2.0" game got no sign-ups when he listed it a month ago, and he hasn't posted since that. I'm interested in giving Mafia a try, preferably from a fairly vanilla game to get me used to it (sorry Lataro, I won't be trying anything bastardly for some time), so should dotproduct be prodded or should we push AngrySquirrel's game up?
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lorenz » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:15 am UTC

RoadieRich wrote:Thing:
Spoiler:
Could it be possible to have a complete game in less than a single page?


Maybe if I had had more guts.

Lataros' fun game of fun
Spoiler:
I'm confused


Roband's fun game of fun
Spoiler:
I'm confused

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Mavketl » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:13 am UTC

I don't know what's going on in the Thing, but shouldn't your reply to that spoiler be spoilered, Lorenz?
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby roband » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:16 am UTC

Mavketl wrote:I don't know what's going on in the Thing, but shouldn't your reply to that spoiler be spoilered, Lorenz?

If you knew what was going on, you'd know the game was over ;)

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby AngrySquirrel » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:01 am UTC

ConMan wrote:dotproduct's "Friends and Enemies 2.0" game got no sign-ups when he listed it a month ago, and he hasn't posted since that. I'm interested in giving Mafia a try, preferably from a fairly vanilla game to get me used to it (sorry Lataro, I won't be trying anything bastardly for some time), so should dotproduct be prodded or should we push AngrySquirrel's game up?

I have sent dotproduct a prodding PM. If they don't make any noise in...let's say...48 hours? I'll start signups for mine.

If there are no protests?
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Ibarra » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:26 pm UTC

Fun Game of Fun:
Spoiler:
So basically it's two games linked to each other? Like Duel/Dual? Hey look roband and Lataro are the mods too.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby roband » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:44 pm UTC

Please keep spoilers separated into "Rob's Fun Game of Fun" and "Lataro's effort at being a decent mod/person"

Thanks

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Mavketl » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:50 pm UTC

roband wrote:
Mavketl wrote:I don't know what's going on in the Thing, but shouldn't your reply to that spoiler be spoilered, Lorenz?

If you knew what was going on, you'd know the game was over ;)
heh, oops. oh well, better safe than sorry i guess :)
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

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Could still use a couple more for Mulanfia; I'd be pleased as punch if we could get to at least 7. :)
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby slbub » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:07 pm UTC

what is the problem with hausdog and myself?

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby _infina_ » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:15 pm UTC

Lock
Spoiler:
My win condition must be to find out my win condition. Oh, look, I win.
Spoiler:
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby ConMan » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:29 pm UTC

AngrySquirrel wrote:
ConMan wrote:dotproduct's "Friends and Enemies 2.0" game got no sign-ups when he listed it a month ago, and he hasn't posted since that. I'm interested in giving Mafia a try, preferably from a fairly vanilla game to get me used to it (sorry Lataro, I won't be trying anything bastardly for some time), so should dotproduct be prodded or should we push AngrySquirrel's game up?

I have sent dotproduct a prodding PM. If they don't make any noise in...let's say...48 hours? I'll start signups for mine.

If there are no protests?

None from me :)
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Mavketl » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:03 pm UTC

AtKM:
Spoiler:
Silknor wrote:For what it's worth, going along with my "plan", I am beginning to suspect Boomfrog.
Arg, that's basically the only thing he could've done to make me doubt his scumminess. Fuck this game, I don't have a read on anyone anymore. If it's slbub I'm just going to argue for an insta-lynch in every game he's in because he doesn't bother to play like town. If it's Silknor, I will tell myself to trust my instincts more.

If it's Angua, COLOUR ME FUCKING SURPRISED.
If it's BoomFrog... well, it could be. He has a really good D1 though. I'll make up my mind depending on how he responds to some ideas that I will provide later today. I think I have a pretty good idea for winning this game if it's 4v1 now.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby DaBigCheez » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:23 pm UTC

Sign-ups for Mulanfia ending in just under 6 hours; new avatar to celebrate, thanks for the signups :)

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Lataro » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:21 pm UTC

Lock, Stock:

Spoiler:
Yeah, shotgun attack go!

Is it bad that my vote is the first vote in the game, and on someone in my own faction? :D

Let's see how this plays out kiddies.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Silknor » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:22 am UTC

All the King's Men:
Spoiler:
Took the leap (just not the one Mav wanted me to). Let's see if I land in one piece or not.

I really do think Boomfrog's plan is a bad one. Even worse than Adam H's mass vanilla town claim. By a lot. But I don't know if I can suspect Boomfrog of anything more than being too committed to what I consider a bad idea. I don't know if he's scummy. I don't know if anyone is scummy. This is no doubt due in part to the fact that discussion of the lie detector has dominated all discussion. But really it's just because I have next to no scumdar in the first couple days on forum games (not playing in a long time doesn't help either).

To be honest, I think I'm going to get lynched now. But the line had to be drawn somewhere.

Given that I refuse to claim my role in a game with mass lie detectors, I think it only fitting that I decline to reveal it here as well.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby AngrySquirrel » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:20 am UTC

ConMan wrote:
AngrySquirrel wrote:
ConMan wrote:dotproduct's "Friends and Enemies 2.0" game got no sign-ups when he listed it a month ago, and he hasn't posted since that. I'm interested in giving Mafia a try, preferably from a fairly vanilla game to get me used to it (sorry Lataro, I won't be trying anything bastardly for some time), so should dotproduct be prodded or should we push AngrySquirrel's game up?

I have sent dotproduct a prodding PM. If they don't make any noise in...let's say...48 hours? I'll start signups for mine.

If there are no protests?

None from me :)

It's been 48 hours. Still no reading of the PM I sent. I'll start sign-ups.
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Postby Elvish Pillager » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:31 pm UTC

Silknor wrote:All the King's Men:
Spoiler:
Given that I refuse to claim my role in a game with mass lie detectors, I think it only fitting that I decline to reveal it here as well.

AtKM (Silknor can read):
Spoiler:
But, the lie-detector powers don't work on spoilers! Nobody can tell if you lie in a spoiler. :wink:
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby weiyaoli » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:18 pm UTC

Stock (Not really a spoiler for anything in game so feel free to read):
Spoiler:
Longest post I have written in a long while. I don't think I've ever written that much? Maybe I have earlier on, since lately I've just been hanging about in games.
And you thought I was crazy...

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby a-wan » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:34 pm UTC

Smalltown:
Spoiler:
These long nights are killing me. If someone is this disinterested in the game, maybe they should just be removed. I'm guessing WW did not kill mafia, as I suspect it's mafia that hasn't submitted their night action.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Mavketl » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:13 pm UTC

AtKM:
Spoiler:
Seriously Silknor... what.

Clearly I'm only "agreeing" with this plan until everyone has posted their statements and used their truthifies, after which I will say STOP RIGHT THERE and explain my flawless plan for winning on D3.

How is "SILKNOR POSTPONE YOUR ARGUMENTS I WANT EVERYONE TO USE THEIR TRUTHIFIES FIRST" not a clear enough hint at that? Also tss no leap of faith, I am disappoint ;)
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Postby a-wan » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:49 pm UTC

Smalltown:
Spoiler:
With no mafia kill again, it looks like town could actually win. As long as town gets the lynch right, we end up at 2-1 tomorrow.

Now to read spoilers to see if I was right about WW and mafia (though with weiyaoli and TK refusing to budge on votes yesterday, it seems basically confirmed).

Okay, I've read spoilers now. I'm glad we killed roband instead of Lataro. If Ibarra hadn't switched his vote after I asked Lataro to switch to roband, I probably would have kept my vote on Lataro unless he switched (which he wouldn't have), so it looks like Ibarra saved us.

Now I just hope everyone votes for weiyaoli since, as far as people in the game are concerned, mafia could be either Lataro or TK. Truth is, no one has confirmed that TK is mafia in the spoilers. I guess it could still be mpolo, but I think that's unlikely.

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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby Ibarra » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:40 am UTC

Smalltown:
Spoiler:
Screw this. I'm gambiting.
I think Lataro is town.
mpolo feels town to me.
wei is most likely wolf.
I'm town.
Therefore TK is maf.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby BoomFrog » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:45 am UTC

Atkm
Spoiler:
Well this went bad fast. I guess I pushed it too hard. Time to take a big risk.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby a-wan » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:04 am UTC

Lorenz wrote:Smalltown

Spoiler:
Completely agreed on both parts. Everything can be answered with "well, Lataro is stubborn". I'm surprised scum (or even town) called Lataro out on that one. I nominate Lataro as scum's MVP :P. *Hides in closet, so Lataro can't find me*

Smalltown:
Spoiler:
Lataro has definitely done a lot to help scum. Now his biggest suspects are two townies when the other town are only focused on the two scum (at least I think TK is scum). I guess that's partly my fault for going after him so strongly--it really must have messed up his scumdar. He acknowledges I was town now that I've flipped, but he doesn't try to follow the direction I was heading or my logic at all. Ibarra definitely shouldn't be on his scum list. And last night, of all nights, there should have been a mafia kill, so of all nights without a mafia kill this one is most likely because of mpolo. Without the mafia kill, this game should go to town unless Lataro can manage to block it.

Uh oh, could mafia actually be mpolo?

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Postby greenlover » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:45 pm UTC

Lock:
Spoiler:
The irony about this entire discussion is that I don't even know if my faction has a kill. What's even more ironic is that I'm apparently "OMGUS"ing my own teammates by the dozen.

Well, it looks like this new "passionate honesty" playing style is a complete failure. Time to go back to the good old cool, calculating, and lurky.

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Postby PhoenixEnigma » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:19 pm UTC

Lock
Spoiler:
Oi, what's Adam H playin' at? All but put up a bloody sign, 'e has.
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Re: DISCUSSION THREAD/Gojoe canNEVER be trusted

Postby greenlover » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:09 am UTC

Lock:
Spoiler:
Last ditch effort. If this doesn't work, I'll probably have to claim independent and hope I can appear protown enough to get away with it. Fat chance of that. So this is what it feels like to be a lynch candidate on day one. Huh.


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