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Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:30 am UTC
by plytho
bessie wrote:And plytho, let us know when you're back. We hopefully won't need a replacement, but unfortunately RL issues happen.
I'll be back around the 13th of august.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:08 pm UTC
by wam
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I'm likely going to spend Sunday afternoon/evening working on the final setup for WoT 3. Please, if you haven't, send me your PM's. If any non-players have time to help with balance and/or flavour, please give me a shout, as my planned comod has taken a leave of absence...


Im home Thurs. Will do it then, if I forget just do mine randomly.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:31 am UTC
by bessie
@LaserGuy: I am still thinking about this post. And I’m also thinking about Vicarin’s comment in the post following yours. Do you have a breakdown by factions, not just by town/non-town? I could work it out myself, but I thought I’d check and see if you already did it.

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:I'm likely going to spend Sunday afternoon/evening working on the final setup for WoT 3. Please, if you haven't, send me your PM's. If any non-players have time to help with balance and/or flavour, please give me a shout, as my planned comod has taken a leave of absence...
Ok everyone, you only have a couple days to sign up for Wheel of Time 3! Or volunteer to co mod! This is sure to be a very fun game, you won’t want to miss it.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:46 am UTC
by LaserGuy
Something like this? Not positive I got them all correct, but should be pretty close (Diablo I think is wrong; should be 9-3-1-1-1, IIRC).

Spoiler:
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The spreadsheet is here if you want to play around with the data.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:24 pm UTC
by BoomFrog
I'd call fridge 3 scum with a handicap. 2/1 seems like the scum weren't working together.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:30 am UTC
by Evil George Washington
Jimbobmacdoodle, do you go by Jimbobular on Nintendo Switch by any chance?

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:38 am UTC
by jimbobmacdoodle
Evil George Washington wrote:Jimbobmacdoodle, do you go by Jimbobular on Nintendo Switch by any chance?
I do not, no. I don't even own a Switch. In fact, I don't think I've even had the opportunity to play on one! I think jimbobmacdoodle is the only username I use anywhere of note.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:08 pm UTC
by bessie
LaserGuy wrote:The spreadsheet is here if you want to play around with the data.
Why yes, I do want to play around with the data. How did you guess? I was thinking about Vicarin’s comment about three full scum being a break point, and about how this relates to three full scum on the same team (see also BoomFrog’s comment about working together in Fridge). I’m not sure that the size of the scum team in itself is as significant as other factors. I’ve thought for a long time that the most important ability in a game was chat (scum, mason, etc), and I need to work on this a bit to see how wins correlate with day chat (does scum with day chat have a higher win rate, what about town with confirmed mason chat, etc). Other game mechanics things to consider: hard vs. soft deadlines, extensions, no lynch, ties, replacements, etc.

I’ve also been thinking about some of your comments in your Meta Mafia QT notes.
LaserGuy Notes QT/75 wrote:One thing that bothers me about this site compared to other mafia sites I've played on is that people always drag out the days for the entire length. Please just vote so we can hammer and get this day over with. I don't want to have to do another week before getting lynched :?
Unless hammering is required for a lynch (and even if it is, see Crossover), players are going to use the entire time allotted, because it is beneficial to town, and ending the day early will be viewed as anti-town so scum will also be reluctant to hammer. You might be interested in this game, where AdamH used bankable deadlines, I think there were other games and that it was also discussed in Gojoe or the Meta thread but a quick search failed me. If town hammers, they can apply the unused time to extend later days.

EGW, you simply can not just appear out of nowhere and not talk about me me me! :P

BoomFrog, really? Do I look like someone that can be that easily manipulated? Hmm, my avatar is, um, oh yeah. Never mind, O Wise One.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:36 am UTC
by Vicarin
With regards to town always wanting to use up the full time available, I think it was kind of funny that Stellaris D3 had town trying to rush the lynches near the end, with wam being the only person arguing to slow down a bit, and this in part helped wam get through to the end because noone was spending any more time analysing after each lynch what the situation must have been for the game to have not ended yet. While it does lead to days dragging out a bit, can't really blame town for trying to squeeze every drop of info out of the day.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:43 am UTC
by Deva
More games with bankable deadlines: ThunderDome Mafia, Discordian Mafia, and Jester Mafia.

Brought it up here. Received little notice. Talked about turbo games around this point, mostly.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:29 pm UTC
by jimbobmacdoodle
Sorry guys, I've been busier today than I was expecting, and I doubt I'll get enough time during the week to do as much as I need to, so I don't anticipate the game starting until next weekend at the earliest.

dimochka will be co-modding hopefully. Please include him on any WoT-related PM's from now on.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:32 am UTC
by bessie
Thanks Deva! I thought there was more discussion somewhere about bankable deadlines, but I could be misremembering because all those games were took place when I was still lurking. Maybe even before I was lurking.

jimbobmacdoodle, I’m disappointed, I won’t have an excuse for not bringing home work this week. :(

On the plus side, if there’s anyone else that thought they missed their opportunity to sign up for Wheel of Time 3, you have a few more days! :)

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:dimochka will be co-modding hopefully.
Hi dimochka! I'm so excited! :D

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:50 am UTC
by Deva
Hm. Checked even further back. Mentioned bankable deadlines specifically in Gojoe earlier, apparently. Discusses deadlines occasionally. Centers around specific (five days) over vague (no deadline unless low participation) and overall game length due to long days. Spoke of players waiting for the full day length here, however.

Used them in Terminator Mafia (according to the sign-ups) and The Sailors of Sea Nine too.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:55 pm UTC
by dimochka
bessie wrote:
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:dimochka will be co-modding hopefully.
Hi dimochka! I'm so excited! :D


Hi! I'm back, at least somewhat. This will allow me to gauge how busy I really am during the day. Good to see you, bessie!

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:58 pm UTC
by wam
Just a reminder I'm busy with limitedninternet for day 1 of wot.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:17 pm UTC
by Sabrar
I'm back and need updates. When do we start WoT???

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:33 pm UTC
by bessie
Sabrar wrote:I'm back and need updates. When do we start WoT???

What’s your hurry?


Hmm, time since Sabrar’s played:
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20180604T2342&p0=1440&font=cursive

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:47 pm UTC
by heuristically_alone
That's way too long without mafia.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:24 pm UTC
by jimbobmacdoodle
Sorry guys, I've recently started a relationship, so my free time has taken a nose dive. However, this evening I put together a first-pass at the setup, and am just waiting on dimochka to take a look over. I'll put up the game rules post tomorrow, but role PMs might have to wait a day or two, depending on how long it takes me to write the flavour for them.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:48 am UTC
by Sabrar
HOW DARE YOU???

Joking ofc, that's very nice. Best of luck with that!

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:28 am UTC
by bessie
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:Sorry guys, I've recently started a relationship, so my free time has taken a nose dive.
:D :D :D I officially approve of your reason for the delay!

heuristically_alone wrote:That's way too long without mafia.
Woof. It’s almost a year in dog-time.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:14 am UTC
by jimbobmacdoodle
Sabrar wrote:HOW DARE YOU???
bessie wrote:
heuristically_alone wrote:That's way too long without mafia.
Woof. It’s almost a year in dog-time.
Sorry, not sorry. :lol:

Sabrar wrote:Joking ofc, that's very nice. Best of luck with that!

bessie wrote:
jimbobmacdoodle wrote:Sorry guys, I've recently started a relationship, so my free time has taken a nose dive.
:D :D :D I officially approve of your reason for the delay!
Thanks all!

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:38 pm UTC
by heuristically_alone
She if they'll co mod with you. Nothing is more romantic.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:20 am UTC
by moody7277
WoT3

Spoiler:
So, I looked through the wiki jimbob linked to for my first choice, Brown Ajah, and I think it's basically Luna Lovegood. Wonder how that'll translate as a role.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:03 am UTC
by bessie
LaserGuy, I'm so happy to see you put a newbie game in the queue! Perhaps we can make it an actual real newbie game and try to draw some newbies, or some players that would prefer a more casual game with lower time commitments than the recent games.

heuristically_alone wrote:She if they'll co mod with you. Nothing is more romantic.
Oh dear. heury, you and I need to talk. :lol:

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:09 am UTC
by Madge
I will advertise the newbie game on reddit and my personal facebook page too! LET"S GET FRESH BLOOD

random aside: I ran into KrO2 on reddit last month randomly (if by randomly you mean that I linked one of the posts in his now-defunct blog and he saw it / saw referrals because of it / other). Turns out he would have been willing to replace in meta mafia in a pinch. So.... I think we need to get a rolodex of people who posted Back In THe Dark Ages of Five Years Ago to unexpectedly pounce on for replacement requests. Heh.

also, now i'm back from holiday and meta mafia is over, i've decided to change my avatar! i was getting sick of my old one so i decided to get a brand new one! i hope you all like it

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:00 pm UTC
by Sabrar
ROLE-PM OR RIOT!!!!!! :lol:

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:01 pm UTC
by heuristically_alone
*gets out torches and battering ram*

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:51 pm UTC
by LaserGuy
WoT3
Spoiler:
My private notes are here

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:26 pm UTC
by heuristically_alone
WoT3
Spoiler:
So my secondary win condition is to never be the first in a day to accumulate 2 votes. Not too hard. I just have to vote for the same person the first voters votes. (As long as it's not me). I'm back up townie, so no powers until a townie dies. I'm in both blue and black ajah, but my loyalty is more to blue (if I read mu PM right). Now to see how townie I can be this game.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:36 am UTC
by BoomFrog
Edit: Wheel of Time 3 (WoT3)
Spoiler:
My secondary win is pretty rough. "Have a tie vote or no lynch while I'm alive." I'm going to be struggling to decide if it's worth reducing my prime win chances to get my secondary win. Best case I'm alive at MYLO. Who knows if we will get to MYLO or LYLO though. Also my main power is activated by not voting so voting to cause a tie is always bad for me. :(

Anyway, if LaserGuy is scum i'm dead N1 so I better get him lynched today if he is scum... :D

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:02 am UTC
by heuristically_alone
WoT2 ended already, so can I read boomfrog's spoiler? ;)

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:27 am UTC
by Vicarin
:lol:

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:38 am UTC
by Madge
Those following Madge's personal life: tomorrow I start at my New Role, and I'll be doing fatal crash investigations! So apparently I'll be rocking up to the site of a fatal crash within 10 days of it happening, taking measurements of the road, photographing the site, etc and then writing a very detailed report talking about what the road was like and whether it contributed to the accident.

My manager-to-be also states I'll be learning how to inspect existing roads and intersections for safety issues and be given some serious training in becoming an "expert" in that. In a few months they're also hoping to get me onto something more engineer-y, coming up with ways to improve safety of large "programmes"/"sections" of roads.

In other news, I'll be reading WoT3 and trying to see if I can follow it and make "posts" as spoilers. Going to try and be the best replacement candidate ever :lol:

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:51 am UTC
by Sabrar
WoT3
Spoiler:
I'm getting terrible RNG, once again I'm scum (Traitor) without knowing who my allies are. My ability is weird and I can't really see a good use for it at the moment. Probably best to keep it in reserve and try to fake a townie-claim with it if necessary.

Good luck Madge!

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:26 am UTC
by BoomFrog
heuristically_alone wrote:WoT2 ended already, so can I read boomfrog's spoiler? ;)


*grumble* Kids these days, moving so fast, already on Wheel of Time 3 *grumble*

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:03 pm UTC
by Madge
Request a 3 day postponing of wot3 start purely to annoy sabrar

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:04 pm UTC
by Madge
(above isn't serious please start asap or I fear for my life)

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:32 pm UTC
by bessie
Madge wrote:Request a 3 day postponing of wot3 start purely to annoy sabrar
I officially approve of this reason! :lol: :P


Wheel of Time 3
Spoiler:
I’m so excited! I love my role pm! I’m Sabrar (I’m an overconfident logician)! I should try to copy his meta for this game and see if anyone notices. Not sure if I can keep up with the post count though.

bessie’s WAG on roles, just because:

BoomFrog - gray
heuristically_alone - yellow
LaserGuy - green
Liri - yellow
Mark_Cangila - brown
moody7277 - brown
mpolo - blue
Sabrar - white
Vicarin - green
wam - random

bessie – If you can’t figure this out this is my first post that you’ve ever read.

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:41 pm UTC
by BoomFrog
Vibrates patiently...