Poopraham Lincoln wrote:
Yeah, I realize that I've probably started to come on a little strong. It's my first time... I'm excited!
InstinctSage wrote:I don't like the "Kill him and get it out of the way so we can concentrate on catching the mafia" train of thought.
Honestly, that's pretty much how I feel though. By the "people that are probably more likely to be mafia" comment, really I just meant that we still don't know if ootd is a jester, mafia, or even a townie+silly bastard; and at least one of the lurkers are sure to be mafia. Kyle (who did just show up), Radman, and Seabee (still with no post content) all need to be seriously considered.
Once we create an environment that is conducive to clear discussion.
Let's put forward 2 possibilities:
1. He's jester
I'm assuming he is jester, which means he is not mafia, which means we shouldn't lynch. If you can write him off as jester, why lynch him just because he's annoying? His words lose all weight as his main goal is to get lynched, and he's dead by day 3 due to suicide if we don't lynch.
2. He's Mafia
If he's mafia and NOT jester, he won't suicide on day 3 and we can kill him then, and we'll be lynching scum. Why not lynch him now? Because it doesn't stop the mafia NKing by getting 1 scum. To me it's a proposition whereby you don't have to listen to a word he says and the truth will come out in time. While we're waiting, why don't we search for scum? The only caveat would be the chance he was a mafia power role, such as assassin, but not only is there no mention of mafia power roles, but it seems highly unlikely for a skilled player to draw so much attention on themselves if they were.
Now, you saying "At least one of the lurkers is sure to be mafia" is another outlandish claim with no real logic behind it. You're being very presumptuous and you'll have to be careful about that, because it makes you look like you know more than a straight townie possibly could.
oneofthedragon wrote:The whole idea of a jester is flawed.
I agree with this, jesters should at least take the hammer down with them or something, otherwise the town is nonchalant about killing them. But that's beside the point. I think you just claimed Jester anyway. As to whether anyone actually believes you, that's another story.