Supermegacrazymayhem! - Game over - Cult wins!

[velvet_octopus]

Well, if you think the cult's non-recruiting, which I'm starting to doubt a little at this point... I know for sure Kells started as Dr. Horrible and Adacore as Captain Hammer, so neither of them. I'm Penny, and I'm not cult, so while I can't back that up, I wouldn't recommend lynching me (not that you could at this point). We can be pretty sure that whatever Brook is, it's not cult. Silknor came back as the "Puppet Master", which doesn't fit the naming scheme of the rest of the cult, but I guess you never know. Which leaves v_o and you, I suppose....

...but I'm not convinced anymore that the cult can't recruit. Which is why I'm not sure of anyone at all. You said you started out independent... could I ask what exactly you were before the top-hat infected you? It seems to have slipped my mind, and it's hard to see how it could do any harm, at this point.

I'm not convinced that the cult can't recruit, as my role pm specifically states that I cannot be recruited into anything. I suppose that may have something to do with were-raptors, but I doubt I would be un-recruitable if no one could recruit. And I find it odd (as I have previously stated) that Lani turned were-raptor while under my protection. Meh - I don't know.

[Brooklynxman]

Probably followed by a modkill. Come on Ada, its not fun playing with 7 people if 1 doesnt exist.

I think we can confirm amt/ada's story now, thus
unvote

So where does this leave us?

EVERYONE is town apparently. But we have probably 2 cult and an sk left.

Vote: silknor

I can only assume you are lying.

[lanicita]

[Your roleclaim] seems to have slipped my mind

That's because I never actually roleclaimed, because I was afraid of being lynched for it earlier in the game. But I might as well roleclaim now (even though it would have been badass to get through the whole game without having to roleclaim). I began the game as the dragon, independent. I couldn't really control the kills very well, because all I knew was it would target someone who was currently voting. But since I was independent I didn't really care, as long as I was getting rid of people, which would make the game end faster, increasing the chance that I would be alive at the end. Then Rakysh converted me to town with his townie-converter, so I was trying to aim for scum, and unfortunately never succeeded (damn dedalus and entropy always voting). Then v_o put the top hat on my head, and I became a were-raptor, but I could also use the dragon power. I can only use one per day, and since the were-raptor can actually target specific people and also can figure out if they're scum, that's the one I've been using.

So basically, I am a independent dragon/were-raptor. And I've totally hated having to keep it to myself just how kickass I am in this game, so I'm glad you made me roleclaim.

Also, something I neglected to point out in my earlier posts: Captain Hammer is also the villain in Dr. Horrible. I really don't think it's a stretch to say he's bad. And if Adacore is lynched, AMT is still protected from daykills. She is just not protected from lynches, but since I don't think anyone would really want to lynch Penny, she should be fine.

I'm okay with lynching Silknor though. We might be at LYLO right now, if there is a recruiting cult and it has 2 members, but hell, the game ending now would mean I win. So why not?
Unvote: Adacore
Vote: Silknor

[Brooklynxman]

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=24008&view=unread#p1656822

Looks like Kells needs to be modkilled (as finding a replacement at this point willing to reread the game AND who hasnt read the spoilers......)

[Brooklynxman]

Actually thinking about it, the cult cant recruit. Clearly. Otherwise, after 5 days, with only 2 or 3 ORIGINAL cultists dead, we'd be up to our knees in cult...wait vo did you say you protected me from cult recruitment too?

DAMMIT!

So I have to assume the cult tried to recruit me and failed at some point. That, and has been having a ridiculously hard time recruiting.
As, I assume we'd hear if the cult was defeated?

Im hoping silk is our last remaining cultist, and regardless I am convinced he is our lying liar. Our one of our lying liars. Hopefully Kells is actually a baddy and tomorrow will start with us winning. If not.....Im not sure what to do.

vo seem confirmed town, everyone else is atleast somewhat questionable. Personally, I'd look at Ada and lan. Maybe lan could kill Ada, if she fails kill Ada, if succeed, we move from there? I'm pretty convinced amt is town. vo is virtually confirmed town. And I KNOW I am town (although you dont).

So if Ada lives.....I kill lan, town is me amt and vo, and vo has the deciding vote between me and amt?

I don't know. I really don't know. idk my bff jill?

[Silknor]

I'm not a cultist. Though I'd like to be, I think if they recruit me I'll have a better chance of winning then relying on the SK alone. I'm not sure why you think I'm lying. Especially about my abilities and rolename, V_O and the flavor text confirmed them.

Also kells asked for a replacement in the discussion thread, so we'll have to see what happens there.

[ameretrifle]

I began the game as the dragon, independent.

Ah, now that makes sense... We had to have a dragon somewhere. I feel a lot better knowing where it is.

And yeah, I have had quite the time wondering what alignment Kells and Adacore are. There's all sorts of arguments to be made. And, in this kind of game, they could've very well both been town just to screw with us. And even if I knew what they started as, that'd be no guarantee... Honestly, I was going to side with Kells, because she's the one who'd actually contacted me and her death leaves me in a much worse position (and, given the source, like you said....). But she's not here, and with the game this small, unless you or Brook decide to be a really mean person, it'd probably be livable. Delicate, VERY delicate, but livable. As long as no one so much as looked at me funny. -_- That's... actually almost literally true.

I'm still a little hesitant to follow lanicita's lead... everyone else, what do you think? Also, if Kells winds up modkilled, maybe we'll get really lucky and that'll give us some useful information. Kind of doubt it, but, well, I try to be an optimist!

Hi there! Is there any way we could get a votecount, and maybe some official word on the Kells situation? Love you guys! <3

And the sudden but inevitable ninja. Lanicita already tried to kill Adacore; it didn't work. I doubt it'd work tomorrow. You could give it a shot if you really wanted to, but if he's telling the truth, you wouldn't have any luck either. If Kells is modkilled, we'll probably hear the results today, and that could help us. If not, well... I have all sorts of suspicions.

[Brooklynxman]

Oh yeah....that would prove to be a difficulty. Shit.

Well.....hmmmm.

Also silk, so what? We know your rolename and some of your powers, and you are admitted scum.

DIE!

[lanicita]

But if Adacore is undaykillable, and Silknor isn't, doesn't it make sense to lynch Adacore today and BXM or I can kill Silknor tomorrow if the game still hasn't ended?

[Silknor]

Go ahead brook. Lynch a useless scum on possible LYLO. Even though I've claimed scum, if you're town, your best interests and mine are at least somewhat aligned.

[AngrySquirrel]

Votals:
2 Silknor (brooklynxman, lanicita)
1 kellsbells (adacore)

As, I assume we'd hear if the cult was defeated?

You already asked this once. The answer hasn't changed.

Kellsbells has been modprodded (again).

8 players, 5 to lynch

[Silknor]

Is that player/lynch count correct?

It was 8/5 earlier and then Kolko died.

[AngrySquirrel]

7 players, 4 to lynch.

[ameretrifle]

http://echochamber.me/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=24008&view=unread#p1656822

I don't know if you're going to have much luck with that modpoke...

Well. I have realized that I've completely forgotten about a lot of games here, and would humbly request to be removed from any that I'm still alive in at the moment. I've started summer classes and do not have the time to catch up. I'll still play in anything new that is starting up though. Sorry guys.

Does that change anything?

Oh, and thanks for the votecount! <3

[AngrySquirrel]

Kellsbells has been replaced by existensial_elevator.

[existential_elevator]

It's going to take me.. a while to do a proper read through. Unless anyone recommends that I start from a day other than Day one

[ameretrifle]

....Adacore probably won't mind.

*giggles* I mean, I figured today was going to be a trainwreck from the very beginning, but that's a twist I didn't see coming. Anyway, long story short, we're in the part of the game where pretty much everyone's claimed and we're trying to figure out which jerk is a) the lying cultist[s] and b) the lying SK. A quick rundown:

Brook-- claimed Town, can kill people and write flavortext for it. Has killed both scum and cult with a near-perfect record, so is pretty well confirmed non-cult. Could technically be SK, but... I mean, he took out our jesterbomb cult, it's hard to lynch a guy after that.
Lanicita-- former Independent Dragon killer, Town for like three minutes, now a freakin' were-raptor who can only kill townies. Claimed survivor.
velvet_octopus--claimed superhero with doc powers, inherited rolecop (one use per day, no alignment). Seems pretty credible.
Silknor--Puppet Master. Lurked half the game. Someday I may forgive him for that. Claimed Mafia Supporter turned SK supporter. Has begged for someone to cult him. Definite scum by his own admission-- the only question is whether he's worth lynching.
Me-- you get your role yet? I'm Penny. Hi! You've saved my life three times this game, it was awesome. We're allowed to PM at any time if you like. I just want the town to win. And for there to be no unnecessary carnage. Because I like everybody who isn't actively trying to kill me.
Adacore-- I'm... going to let you decide for yourself on this one

At least one of these people is cult. One is also an SK. It's trying to figure out which is which that's the hard part.

Ah ha ha I hate you people for making me claim. But hey, it's probably going to be fine, we can all get along! Can't we?

please don't kill each other please don't kill each other you really have a whole lot in common if you could just sit and talk a while i mean you both wear funny costumes and you're both men and i'm sure you could think of other things if you just gave it the time and it's a beautiful day outside and there's no reason to mar it with more blood because really i believe people can get along and i think that's what we all want deep down, don't you?

[existential_elevator]

As for a read through: I'm absolutely bewildered as to why people are trusting Lani. I am also quite behind the Silknor lynch.
vote: Silknor

More thoughts when I get my head around all these CRAZY ROLES DAMNIT

[ameretrifle]

Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at, too.

That puts Silknor at L-1. I'd probably vote him, but it's five AM here, and it's been a really long night, so I'm going to have to hold off until tomorrow at the earliest. I know you don't like it when I do that, Brook, but... put yourself in my shoes here. ;D

[Adacore]

Hmm...

Goodbye fair world?

unvote
vote: Silknor

[existential_elevator]

Drop Acme Anvil

*nonchalant whistle*

[AngrySquirrel]

In the end the puppetmaster is unable to make all his puppets dance on line and all his strings gets tangled up. "Hey! This show sucks!" someone shouts, and the townies promptly proceeds to lynch Silknor. Just as the noose is about to be tightened around Silknor's neck Adacore decides to lean up close to a wall. This isn't very smart as a man wearing goggles and a lab-coat is waiting for him and promptly decides to drop an anvil labeled "Acme" on top of his head. Adacore is stunned. "Hey, that really hurt!" he manages to say, before a really big lump grows out of his head. He glances into a nearby window, then screams. "Oh no! My dashing good looks! My awesome!" Adacore then falls over face down in the ground, strangely enough completely from the shock of seeing himself being not-pretty. From the roofs an evil laughter can be heard, and from the chrowd a small voice going "No..."

Adacore has been killed. He was Captain Hammer and quite awesome. (independent)
Silknor has been lynched. He was the puppet-master (mafia-supporter turned sk-supporter).

It is now day 6.

5 players, 3 to lynch.

[Adacore]

Damn you Dr Horrible! I'm too awesome to die!

[dedalus]

*Grabs popcorn, and wonders why the title says day 5....*

[existential_elevator]

Well, darling, can it be our time to be together now? Oh please, please say "I do"!
Give Engagement Ring to Ameretrifle

[velvet_octopus]

People left:

Me -- superhero doctor / rolecop
e_e (formerly kells) -- Dr. Horrible
ameretrifle -- Penny
BXM -- town vig
lanicita -- independent dragon / were-raptor

Now, we just killed an independent and a sk-supporter. And we supposedly still have an SK and a cultist still out there. Which means 2 of the 5 above are not actually town.

Well, we know Lani isn't town. But could a were-raptor be considered cult? Is a dragon an SK?

BXM - actually a very very sneaky SK? (In which the whole not trusting thing? Yeah, that would be so mutual.)

e_e and ameretrifle - culted at any time in the past? Actually a cult in the first place?

me - a blatent liar with excellent luck?

As far as I can tell, BXM is not cult, and e_e and ameretrifle are not SK. Probably. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Lani is both cult (were-raptor) and SK (dragon) at this point, but it's so hard to tell who to trust. Lani said that she is helping the town (although they are the only ones she can kill). That sounds like SK with a "survive" win condition to me.

I protected Brook earlier this morning because I didn't know what else to do (and habits are hard to break.) But for all I know, I've been protecting an SK all along. Still, I don't think Brook is cult, since he killed a cult. Unless they are different cults? But a cult with a daily kill power?? Doubtful.

I guess if anyone out there is actually an SK, and your win condition is to survive, it'd be nice if you told us. I won't even be that angry. Then we can work together to find the cult. Yeah, we should probably do that. I promise I won't vote to kill you if you work with us. (Or even lie to us and say you want to help the town, hey, I just want to find the cult at this point.) Of course, then if we get the last cult and you kill someone else, we'd still have a 2 to 1 vote against you, so maybe don't say you are going to help the town if you want to turn on us. Whatever, come forward, you!

[lanicita]

Ohhh this game.

I so badly want to kill BXM before he kills me. I am not an SK so if there is an SK it must be him. But with the doctor there I can't do it. Gah, that is frustrating.

I'm not going to send in my kill until we discuss who it should be. I hope BXM will do the same.

WHO IS CULT?? This is honestly driving me crazy, I was so sure it was Adacore. I could make a case for it being ANYONE. Christ, I'm not even sure why I'm still alive, I don't blame any of you for finding me scummy because I was for the first 3 days. Maybe e_e was cult, and the engagement ring is an invitation into the cult, and now AMT is cult also and it's LYLO again.

Wait, AS didn't say it is LYLO. Ms. Mod, are we at LYLO again?

Now, we just killed an independent and a sk-supporter. And we supposedly still have an SK and a cultist still out there. Which means 2 of the 5 above are not actually town.

If it's not LYLO right now, we must only have one cult member and no SK. I am really hoping that's the case, because otherwise the only possibility is that the SK is BXM.

Actually, let me make a case right now to show you that I'm not an SK. I began as the independent dragon. Even if I was an SK then (which I wasn't), I was converted to town so I couldn't have been an SK anymore. Then I became a were-raptor, because Rodan died. It would break the game if the SK could just hand down his hat (so to speak) to another person. The SK would have to win then because there would just be a long string of SKs until the last SK killed the last player. So the were-raptor cannot be an SK.

Sorry for the crazy disjointed post, I'm really confused at this game.

[existential_elevator]

I am an inventor, my dear, and a lover of ameretrifle! Oh, I do hope now my mortal adversary has been dispensed of, that ameretrifle and I can finally be together! I can assure you that I am not the raving cultist, here.

And really, a dragon? You do make me so very nervous, with all your dragon-y ways. If there is a Serial Killer among us, it must surely be you? And cult, well, I don't see a better candidate.

Vote: Lanicita

[velvet_octopus]

Well, except that I didn't know if the hat would do anything (although Rodan made ameretrifle a hat, which is why I tried it). So I don't know that the hat was meant to be a pass-down method. Perhaps the mod saw my action and decided to carry the SK line on because of it, but it wasn't preplanned? Hell, I don't know.

I'm sorry I protected Brook if he's SK, I'm just more interested in killing cult right now so I figured that no matter what he is, it's best that he not become cult any time soon.

I still have my rolecop, if you'd like me to use it on ameretrife now that a ring has been exchanged? ameretrifle, will you oblige to vote me for role-coppage? I don't think copping Lani or Brook will have much good effect as the cop doesn't tell alignment, but it might tell me if amt's role changed after marrying Dr. Horrible.

Why would we have an SK supporter without an SK? Does that make any sense at all?

[velvet_octopus]

Ninja'd and oh, I still think Lani is likely to be one of the two things we are searching for, but I'd like Brook's input before I vote, and I'd also like to know if we are at LYLO or not.

[lanicita]

E_E, you realize that I could just kill you now, but I really am not going to do that until I hear what the town has to say? Because I am not an SK. I was just throwing out speculation. I figured you were an inventor, considering the pants that Kells gave out earlier. I was just guessing. Can you please read my last paragraph again and see why I am not an SK? As for cult. We had at least one cult member left yesterday. If we aren't at LYLO now, it means the cult ISN'T RECRUITING. And I certainly didn't start out as cult, since I started as an independent dragon. I am telling the entire truth right now because I don't want to die, I've come so far in this game with so much killing and somehow I survived this long, and now I just want to survive and win.

[velvet_octopus]

BROOK ARE YOU ACTUALLY AN SK? We won't kill you if you just want to survive, I swear. I could buy that we only have cult left but then why why why an SK supporter? Just because all the mafia were gone and Silknor needed something to do, even if it was fake? Fake?

And it's possible that the cult has just tried to recruit the wrong people, but either way I believe there is only one cult left. I think.

[lanicita]

Can I also ask, Brook, will you please not kill me? At least until we have had a little more discussion, and found out whether or not it's LYLO? Because you know I can't kill you with v_o protecting you, so I'm not much of a threat right now as you're the only one I really want dead.

[Brooklynxman]

lan, my instinct was to kill YOU as the sk before you could kill me, but seeing as you cant, I'll wait till we can have a discussion. vo, I am not, and have never been, an sk.......in this game (I recall several times on irc).

Im looking really hard at e_e/amt right now, as if they are BOTH anti-town and covering each other we are screwed.

Also, unless our sk is deliberatly withholding their kill (like I suggested was possible earlier in the game) then I know lan is the sk, and everyone else can narrow it down to me and lan. I will wait on killing lan for now because:
A. She cant kill me
B. It might be more beneficial to kill cult anyway, thus I will wait to see if I can find that.

[lanicita]

Thank you, brook.

lover of ameretrifle

One-way lover? Since, y'know, AMT said already that she wasn't a lover with either you or Hammer. Unless the ring made you lovers. But why would you link yourselves now? It seems pretty crazy to give yourself a weakness like that.

[existential_elevator]

Oh, the lover condition is quite one-way, I assure you. Both myself and Snr. Hammer are lovers of Penny, and should she meet a cruel fate, neither of us could contain ourselves! Naturally, each wanted the other dead. But Penny, oh sweet Penny, she just wants everyone to be happy, you know? And it is quite proven that should one of us die, she would be quite unharmed. Naturally, I proved myself to be the better man. I don't necessarily know exactly what my inventions do, either, but it seemed fitting to offer a ring, no?

[lanicita]

Well, looks like v_o is protecting the wrong person then, if there's an SK around.

[velvet_octopus]

Well, looks like v_o is protecting the wrong person then, if there's an SK around.

He was the only one I was sure wasn't cult.

[existential_elevator]

Really, I am quite convinced that Lani is our SK.

[lanicita]

Oh, totally fair, v_o. I just meant that if there is an SK, he's going to have an easier time of ending the game.

E_E, how can you still think I am SK, after reading my explanation of why I couldn't be? Can you explain how I possibly could be an SK? And do you have any thoughts at all on who could be cult?

Roleclaims now:
e_e: Dr. Horrible, inventor, town
AMT: Penny, powerless, town
BXM: Vigilante who can write his own flavor, town
v_o: Doctor, also had some connection to Vieto, town
me: Dragon/were-raptor, independent

I can't figure out who to vote for at all. BXM seems to me to be the best bet, honestly, but I am biased because I'm terrified he's going to just kill me without warning. The other person I could vote for is e_e. And not as an OMGUS thing, but mostly because Dr. Horrible just isn't really a townie role. I can't see Penny or a doctor starting as cult. I am 99% sure the cult never recruited, because of the original flavor that there are "multiple cults". All the cult who have died have been from different cults, and they couldn't all be recruiting, so I have to assume that none of them were.

I'm just going back to the original flavor now: "It is also the tale of... cults fighting for a better future and envy of those mightier than yourself." I could believe that none of the cult members knew who each other were. I could also believe that BXM was trying to find the other cults and kill them. Although I think e_e might be the one who "envies those mighter than herself," and I wonder if that is still talking about cult.

v_o, can you rolecop BXM instead? I don't think he's ever actually named his role, as far as I can remember anyway. And I really doubt AMT's role would change after marrying Dr. Horrible... her role would still be Penny, right? Or maybe Mrs. Dr. Penny Horrible?