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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby Not A Raptor » Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:42 pm UTC

Jesus. H. Christ. If there's ever an accusation in a game of mafia, let it be modeled on that post!

I'm going to start at the beginning. By putting my name, "The man. The legend." in such bold terms, my reputation and profile are raised greatly. This dovetails in with a couple of Van's arguments, but it also seems to be the perfect one-liner retort to my own snarky behavior. Compliment me, and by your compliments undo me.

Oh, the meta analysis. It's been split into simply naming the word counts of all relevant posts, counting up my actions and comparing them, and putting the two together to analyze vote posts' word count. The suggestion that I may have been busy during the HP mafia abnormality has relevance here. See, if Van had gone to the extra length of analyzing how my posts are scattered through the entirety of the day, Van could infer that I am really bloody tired, and it might explain my prickly behavior what with the one-liners and general dismissive attitude. Indeed, this isn't very conducive to long, elaborate posts. Earlier in the game, I suffered worse from this problem and it roundly explains my abnormal word count. May I mention that I've brought my level of rest up once before in the middle of that "quiet period"? For the vote analysis, Is one more FoS than usual really that troublesome? Remember that FoS's are cheap and can be made without having an effect on anything, and very often people will be able to be seen making multiple FoS's in one post. An FoS is nothing more than a tool: it lets others know where your suspicions lie in a succinct manner. Further, is the time that they are made at really a statistic that should be torn apart? Wouldn't you like mafia players to be encouraged to finger the suspicious whenever they acquire suspicions? That tactic, if adopted more often (as in your suggested automatic mafia parser), would likely have a secondary damaging effect on the town. Why, scum could latch onto those statistics as a way of pushing the lynch of those who deviate from the norm as well. As to the word count on voting posts, one would think that more justification for votes (when considered on its own, of course) is a good thing? Can't a person's playstyle evolve with time, or circumstances? (In particular, wouldn't saving my breath for just the accusations might be a natural adaptation to a lack of sleep? Oh, sleep, how I miss you...)

Leaving the metagame behind, though... My tone in the fourth post can be explained by the exertion I went through trying to think whilst sleepy. I was irritable and itching for something to rip into. This also explains the comments. The hostility to the rolespec is caused by a third factor: I forgot what the mod's post said due to my tired state, as I later acknowledged. In post #6, I commented on my bleary eyes. As to internet sarcasm, it's sometimes easier to spew sarcasm than interpret it. It was so in that case. I have since adjusted, however, so you can rest assured that I will now properly laugh at any jokes you have to share with us. :) In post #9, cleaning up the mud whilst actually referring to the act is semi-flippant and so was the comment about there being no joke in mafia. Now, I'm not one to criticize the flippant now, as I've made extensive use of such a tone since, but back then, it grated a bit. Also, the conclusion of the rolespec is actually basic mafia setup and didn't seem to bear repeating. Post #10 was in response to RoadieRich's post, not TLC. I had actually been away for a few hours to try and catch up on sleep. I should've quoted him. Suggesting a player-related aberration in the vote count, as in post #11, seems to me like reasonable role speculation: neither meaningless nor akin to a bastard moddery suggestion. At post #12, the misrepresentation you claim was me just continuing post-by-post and with my characteristic short-term mafia memory. I remembered that TLC was playing dubiously. I looked back through a few posts, and saw dubious posts up to the ninth most recent. I've justified disapproving of the three posts you mentioned, at least in my mind. Your thoughts on #13 go back to the theory you put forth. Needless to say, it's not a theory I'm convinced of. :P The "slightly town, slightly scum" posts of #14 and #20 can be explained by the fact that I'm cautious. You see, there are a few players who aren't terribly bright and I'm taking out an insurance policy on their roles, if they happen to be important. If being pessimistic in that respect is scummy, then I can't help you. At post #15, I will say that I've had my good moments, but the bad are more numerous and seem to be the rule rather than the exception. Life and Death still resulted in my quick death, I'd like to remind you. For post #16, I will say that I try to have fun while playing a game. By the way, how much fun are you having? You seem to have sunk a lot of time into that post and I'd hate to be impairing your ability to enjoy the game. As to the ponies of post #17, I apologize. I assumed that there were a lot of FaiDites around and that it would quickly be explained and we could all have a jolly laugh about it. In post #18, I felt offended. When I'm offended, I'm more likely to retaliate than move on. I'll buy your disagreement about what constitutes content as a difference of opinion. In #19, I will say that anything that can be analyzed could be considered content. In that case, saying I hadn't posted any is a mischaracterization. In post #21, I agree about suspecting the same people not being a scum tell. I just thought it was a useful note. It kinda morphed into something other than plain notes. In the fifth note thing, I examined the posts out of context and didn't realize how that related to me or its proper relation to the votes. In post #24, while that seems to be correct on the face of things, the one-liners generally are a weak defense instead of a nonexistent defense. Perhaps we're using different definitions of defense, but anything that takes the heat off works as defense. It may not be kind, it may not be palatable, it may not offer much information, but it's defense. Even then, the post you picked out to say that in contained a phrase that assumes that I'm not very devious. That's information. In post #25, it might not have been deflection, but it may certainly have been biased due to the way he was going at me. Besides, I never said that such analysis wasn't valuable, I just said that they couldn't be trusted. You're mischaracterizing me again. In post #26... convenient distancing, my ass. Your analysis of that post is predicated on your assumptions. His vote on me looked flimsy, so I thought I'd take a look at him. Seeing that he wasn't posting much, I wanted to hear what his excuse would be. Besides, there's no guarantee that I'd find his excuse to be satisfactory; it'd have to have been a good one, but he didn't even give an excuse. In post #29, I was clarifying a muddy word. With "ninja'd", people mostly mean in addition that they agree with what was said, and that wasn't what I meant. Besides, it's right on the heels of a post with much content. In post #31, some things are more guttish than others. Catching somebody in an inconsistency is less guttish than not liking somebody's choice of words, as an example. Why, for a while, I generally thought TGB was scummy in most games simply on the basis of having a prickly personality. Finally, post #31. I was pointing out the fact that you were beginning to make assumptions about what I was and wasn't likely to do. Oh, and the caustic thing... half of this game has been spent focusing on me. You can't say that about other games at the time I was being picked apart in them. That gets really annoying, and I lost my cool for a bit. My bad.

In conclusion: Damn.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Sorry NAR, I have to do thi

Postby Van » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:13 am UTC

tl;dr
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby Van » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:21 am UTC

Yeah, sorry, but I had to, the irony was just too large not to. Also, I'd just gotten out of bed :D

Not A Raptor wrote:[Regarding FoS...] Further, is the time that they are made at really a statistic that should be torn apart?
Yes. Absolutely. I have noticed that, as a general rule, town players are aggressive. They put ideas out early, they vote early, they don't hold back. They don't have anything to hold back, excepting power roles.

Scum players do not have the same luxury. They must be measured in everything they do, as the simplest slip, even about wording, can be enough to lynch them. So they tend to vote much more cautiously, or in this case, use FoS more (and later).

Leaving the metagame behind, though... My tone in the fourth post can be explained by the exertion I went through trying to think whilst sleepy. I was irritable and itching for something to rip into. [this, and other similar comments]
I understand that, I really do. This is coming from someone who worked almost 100 hours in an 8 day period last week, so when I say I understand exhaustion, I really do. And I do believe that you've been tired and/or generally out of it, but I'm afraid that isn't enough for me to be sold on it.

At post #12, the misrepresentation you claim was me just continuing post-by-post and with my characteristic short-term mafia memory. I remembered that TLC was playing dubiously. I looked back through a few posts, and saw dubious posts up to the ninth most recent. I've justified disapproving of the three posts you mentioned, at least in my mind.
You seriously don't believe the third post is contentful? It's rolespec. Yeah- I know the ending is weird.

The "slightly town, slightly scum" posts of #14 and #20 can be explained by the fact that I'm cautious. You see, there are a few players who aren't terribly bright and I'm taking out an insurance policy on their roles, if they happen to be important. If being pessimistic in that respect is scummy, then I can't help you.
Caution is good, sure, but I do believe you can take that either way: "oh, he's just being cautious", "oh, he's trying to frame it as 'look how pro town I am!'", and the problem is that you really can't exactly pinpoint either one. Imagine a a starwars game, where someone joke-claims Vader. Are they joking, or are they pouring wine, as surely no scum would be that bold? Etc. The problem is worse, because once you look scummy, a lot of things that admittedly could be pro town look scummy. Extra-unhelpfully, the reverse also applies; see mpolo's culting going completely ignored in HPMafia.

For post #16, I will say that I try to have fun while playing a game. By the way, how much fun are you having? You seem to have sunk a lot of time into that post and I'd hate to be impairing your ability to enjoy the game.
Low. For serious, low.

As a general rule, people are going to do things they are interested in. That post started out conceptually, with me wondering if there was any way to determine alignment based on statistics only. Given that I've designed and played with databases for fun, I'd say... um, yes. I did have fun. But I still don't particularly appreciate your tone there.

Aaaand I'm going to end my commentary on your reply here. In my mind, what you just did is a scumtell, and while I don't think I'd call it the final nail in my opinion of you (that came before the analysis, like I'd waste that much effort on someone I didn't think was scum to begin with...), it is definitely the final nail in the coffin of my effort dissecting you.

In closing, however, I'd like to comment on one thing: You didn't roleclaim, at all, with 5 votes on you, so I'm absolutely not going to believe any you'd toss out now. But, more importantly, we can discern a few things from that. If you were a mason or a power role, you would've claimed, which means you're vanilla town at best, or an anti-town agent at worst.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby Not A Raptor » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:23 am UTC

... Damn. I'm even starting to be callous unconsciously. I need to distance myself from that... and since I wouldn't replace anybody who's on the verge of being lynched, I guess I'll just let this happen. I'd like to apologize for all potshots made during this game. Van, _infina_, TLC, any others who may have been offended, I'm sorry. I suppose that I'm the one having less fun, as might be inferred from the several instances of Taking It Personally.

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I'm done.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby frogman » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:26 am UTC

1 dotproduct - weiyaoli
1 _infina_ - Two-Fry
1 mpolo - jayhsu
6 Not A Raptor - _infina_, mister k, mpolo, Not A Raptor, tastelikecoke, Van

8 to lynch.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby dotproduct » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:10 am UTC

Wow, I managed to mess up Day 1 and Day 2. I'll have to learn to trust my towndar less.

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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby Dr Ug » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:20 am UTC

:shock:

/me has been out-analysed...

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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby Dark Loink » Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:44 pm UTC

:shock: :o :shock:
...that was...insane. A graph. She made a graph. :)
I will catch up on this game, as I am back, and it is the only game I am in. May as well finish it. As Dr Ug said, the self vote, this may as well go through. D3 you should expect a good post from me...I am already well in need of one.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby frogman » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:41 pm UTC

The man who was not a raptor laughed maniacally as he was dragged to the gallows. "Take me! I'm done! I'm done with the world!"

They strung him up. Hopefully, if they lynched correctly, that would be one less menace to the town. There would, of course, be more. Unfortunately, it would be a long night ahead because Frogman was going to camp. Of course, many things would be going on. Much discussion.

To the town's dismay, it seemed that two members of the good MAFIA had run off. "I'm too far behind. I might as well not even try," one could be heard saying to the other. "I'm just leaving for good. Mafia isn't my thing," said the other. Many people cried, tried to find replacements for them, but it was to no avail.

Lataro has been modkilled. He was part of the Masonry of Anti-Frogzombie Insurgency Activists. Town.
Felltir has been modkilled. He was part of the Masonry of Anti-Frogzombie Insurgency Activists. Town.

Day Over. Send in actions.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby Van » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:59 am UTC

what the fuck.

Unfortunately, it would be a long night ahead because Frogman was going to camp. Of course, many things would be going on. Much discussion.
We can discuss at night? How long are you going to be at camp? When will this night end?!
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby frogman » Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:08 am UTC

Van wrote:what the fuck.

Unfortunately, it would be a long night ahead because Frogman was going to camp. Of course, many things would be going on. Much discussion.
We can discuss at night? How long are you going to be at camp? When will this night end?!


All week unfortunately.

I meant behind-the-scenes faction discussion. I was trying to encourage that. Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby Van » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:40 am UTC

Listen: I hate you.

:cry:
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby tastelikecoke » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:39 am UTC

1 week of night? That's like an end of the world scenario!
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby frogman » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:46 am UTC

If everyone gets their actions in by tomorrow morning, I can start tomorrow!
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby tastelikecoke » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:38 am UTC

Maybe it's time to summon Co-mod?
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby _infina_ » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:57 pm UTC

*mumbles something about planetary alignments altering night length*
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby PhoenixEnigma » Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:28 am UTC

_infina_ wrote:*mumbles something about planetary alignments altering night length*
The Frog is in the Fish; the Rooster is strong.
Early morning but a wish, the night is long
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby tastelikecoke » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:01 am UTC

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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby frogman » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:36 pm UTC

Oooh, co-mods? Do you know where he is?

After the eternal night, there was two fewer players. Two had transformed, one had returned, and one had left forever.

PhoenixEnigma is a Frogzombie.
Dr. Ug is a Frogzombie.

Brookylnxman is now back in the game.


The townspeople hastily checked Not A Raptor. Not A Raptor had, along with a bus pass and some loose change, an evil MAFIA card in his wallet.

Not A Raptor was a member of the Mysterious Association of Frogzombie Instigation Advocates. Scum.

Also, Van had decided to take a walk. A very long walk. Away from the town of Frogville, forever.

Van was Town.

9 players left, 5 to lynch.
EDIT:
Actually, 10 players, 6 to lynch. Forgot to add Brook back in there.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby weiyaoli » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:55 pm UTC

Hmm, so there IS a dezombifying role out there, the good mafia perhaps?
But since felltir was GMAFIA, and suggested they also had kills probaly means that they do also have a kill which would explain the two kills yesterday and today.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby _infina_ » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:12 pm UTC

No. It was one-shot. we all had an ability. I need to check something on it, but it was only used last night. I will be back with more. I think there is a independent with a frogzombification ability, as well as the scum kill that makes a frogzombie. My suggestion was going to be lynch Dr Ug, and use the night for more info. I need a little more time to think.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby _infina_ » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:18 pm UTC

EBWOP: I just noticed that BxM is back among the living, welcome back. So we must have a reviver ability in our midst, since only one was brought back.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 2: Long night, time for lynchi

Postby Van » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:28 pm UTC

frogman wrote:Not A Raptor was a member of the Mysterious Association of Frogzombie Instigation Advocates. Scum.
vindication!

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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby frogman » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:39 pm UTC

Sorry, PhoenixEngima was a Nightkill, not a Frogzombification.

PheonixEnigma was a member of the Mysterious Association of Frogzombie Instigation Advocates. Scum.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby _infina_ » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:25 pm UTC

Ok, that fixed that problem. Next on my list is dotproduct, and was going to use the night for that. When Lataro and Felltir left, they had a two-shot doctor and a two-shot cop left. My only ability was the one-shot kill that I used on PE. And now that I know that PE is dead, not frogzombified, i wonder if the other frogzombifier was one-shot, or that we picked the same target, and my kill stopped the frogzombification.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby Dark Loink » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:27 am UTC

Huh. So far, lynching seems to be going pretty good. 3 scum are dead. I will comment on other stuff probably tomorrow...but...I wonder something. What do we do if scum comes back alive? Because...it is a possibility, and I want to know your thoughts. Would you be ressurected as your original role? Or...some sort of dead person cult?

And van can't be ressurected, it seems?
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby tastelikecoke » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:33 am UTC

infina wrote:My only ability was the one-shot kill that I used on PE. And now that I know that PE is dead, not frogzombified, i wonder if the other frogzombifier was one-shot, or that we picked the same target, and my kill stopped the frogzombification.

So you are claiming that you killed PE with a one-shot kill? But wait, how do you know that we all had an ability? That playstyle seems similar to your other games, you claimed in DIablo as bomb, and As Bahamut on 8bit. But the playstyle usually brings some wine as far as I know.

Van's death is odd, NaR is scum, PE is scum, Dr Ug is now a frogzombie and BxM is back. Not to mention the two modkills. There's a lot going on around here. Something can be theorized perhaps.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby _infina_ » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:59 am UTC

tastelikecoke wrote:
infina wrote:My only ability was the one-shot kill that I used on PE. And now that I know that PE is dead, not frogzombified, i wonder if the other frogzombifier was one-shot, or that we picked the same target, and my kill stopped the frogzombification.

So you are claiming that you killed PE with a one-shot kill? But wait, how do you know that we all had an ability? That playstyle seems similar to your other games, you claimed in DIablo as bomb, and As Bahamut on 8bit. But the playstyle usually brings some wine as far as I know.

Van's death is odd, NaR is scum, PE is scum, Dr Ug is now a frogzombie and BxM is back. Not to mention the two modkills. There's a lot going on around here. Something can be theorized perhaps.

Wait, what? I am the third and final member of the masons. All three of us had an ability. That is all I know. My guess is now we are looking for an independent, scum are gone. You also cut off part of my post when you quoted it. I gave you extra info on the two who were mod killed, which I knew about because I was a mason with them.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby Brooklynxman » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:02 am UTC

So, I am back.

Idea: why not cast a vote on a frogzombie and see if we can.
We figure out what all this means, then do something large and violent

The thing about changing the world...once you do it the world's all different.

I'm Angel. I beat the bad guys.

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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby _infina_ » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:05 am UTC

We tried that already. Page 7, weiyaoli voted for RR, and it didn't count.
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keozen wrote:It took us exactly 3 pages to turn a discussion of a loved children's book series into smut...
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Roles out

Postby _infina_ » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:40 am UTC

My analysis of dotproduct's posts.
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dotproduct wrote:My Awesome Frog Instructional Adventure


"7. Once I say that it's nighttime, do not post in the thread AT ALL. This is fine, although the zombies might hear you."

Does this mean we can do analysis/accusation type posts during nighttime?

Question about a rule. Neutral

Spoiler:
dotproduct wrote:I don't know, but it's been 5 days since he logged in.

dotproduct wrote:(dumb internet sent the post twice)
Answering frogman's question about sdg. Neutral

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dotproduct wrote:I gotta agree with PE here, it seems like we would have recruiting masons. As for other unusual roles, lets make an attempt:

fly - survivor


Uh... yeah, I can't think of anything else that has to do with the theme, so I'm guessing most of the roles will be relatively standard.

Rolespec. Neutral

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dotproduct wrote:
tastelikecoke wrote:When I saw the word milkybee my stomach grumbles.
Nothing else in that post?
Are you serious?


Along with the wine from earlier, that gets me to

Vote: tastelikecoke

Votes TLC for providing little content. Has been doing so himself. Scummy

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dotproduct wrote:(responding to modprod)


Brook, what exactly happened between your fos and your vote to make you change?

I'm not liking the KK lynch, although tlc and possibly bxm are the only people I would prefer to see lynched.

Also, here's a pure wifom question for Van:
Would you have posted that theory if you were scum?

Neutral

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dotproduct wrote:So, yeah, I managed to completely lose track of how long it had been since I had posted.


Not A Raptor wrote:- He spilled the wine (as pointed out by felltir) on page 3.
- Was terse when talking about RR, after he voted for him. Not much reason given. Then again, he was a lurker at the time.
- At the end of page three, suggested that something wasn't right and hopped on the TLC lynchwagon.
- Was mistaken about whether players were in the game or not (deficit of information and correction, or excuse to post little content?)
- Suggested a random lynch on page 4. What the hell? Oh, this was the post before the first vote was laid on KK as well.
- On page 5, admitted not paying much attention to the game, placed an IGMEOY on KK. Scum waiting to see if the lynch was going to happen?
- On page 6, came up with a list of four players he thought was scummy. Gave reasons for two. This is one of the few townish tells I got.

I must say, I don't think I can trust him at the moment.

FoS: -infina-

I must say, this post really doesn't sit right with me.
It's like NaR wanted to seem like he was doing an analysis while mostly just picking out the bad parts.

Vote: Not A Raptor


I'm also think mister k has a point, and will look back at weiyoli's posts now.
Votes NaR, little content. Neutral/Scummy

Spoiler:
dotproduct wrote:I mostly agree with mister k, though not enough to change my vote.

FOS: weiyaoli

Again little content Neutral-Scummy

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dotproduct wrote:I agree with Dr Ug here. I'm pretty sure that if NaR was scum, someone (not necessarily me) would have spotted a slip by now.

unvote

Must look at weiyaoli again.


Unofficial Votals:

2 dotproduct - Not A Raptor, weiyaoli
1 Felltir - mpolo
1 Not A Raptor - Van
1 weiyaoli - mister k
1 PheonixEnigma - _infina_

Agrees with Dr Ug, unvotes. Neutral

Spoiler:
dotproduct wrote:I just finished looking over weiyaoli's posts, and the only thing I saw that was slightly suspicious was the what motivated my original FoS of (him?).
If I don't find anything else, that will get my vote, although I'm certainly going to try to find something better.
Another low content post. Scummy

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dotproduct wrote:Wow, I managed to mess up Day 1 and Day 2. I'll have to learn to trust my towndar less.

Vote: Not A Raptor

Jumping on the d2 NaR bandwagon. Neutral

Overall: Scummy low content posts, active lurking.

Vote: dotproduct
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby Brooklynxman » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:00 am UTC

That can't be all the posts by dp, can it?
We figure out what all this means, then do something large and violent

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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby tastelikecoke » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:55 pm UTC

_infina_ wrote:Wait, what? I am the third and final member of the masons. All three of us had an ability. That is all I know. My guess is now we are looking for an independent, scum are gone. You also cut off part of my post when you quoted it. I gave you extra info on the two who were mod killed, which I knew about because I was a mason with them.

Well now it vaguely makes sense. So now you have a chance to reveal yourself since both of them are dead, and you have no powers. Now it's only the independent left. So in order for him kill everyone it will take 8 days, unless the mafia is still alive.

So how about this: One independent has the ability to frogzombify indefinitely, and someone used a one-shot kill to end Van's life. There must be some more independents too, if not then most of us are vanila townies.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby weiyaoli » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:43 pm UTC

How about Van chose to leave the game?

Taking a long walk away from the town suggests she did it herself, and fits with the fact that she left Wizardy as well.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby _infina_ » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:19 pm UTC

I thought van leaving was quite obvious that it was her leaving the game herself, otherwise I would have mentioned it.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby mpolo » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:47 pm UTC

Well, dotproduct has certainly not been contributing much to the game. That alone could be reason for a lynch. I am confident about mister k and _infina_ being town at the moment. It will be interesting to see if Brooklynxman brings back knowledge from "beyond". (Well, actually he has come back, just not said much.)

We seem to have lost most of the town power roles (as I tend to believe _infina's_ claim). On the other hand, scum seems to be a very small group.

Tastelikecoke has had some good content posts recently. Mister k and _infina_ are pretty certainly town.

I feel like I'm not adding much to the discussion with this post, but maybe collecting knowledge together is worthwhile.

If you accept my feelings, then we have:


townie
10.mister k
6._infina_

leaning town
9. Two-Fry (lurky, but saw NaR's scummitude and concluded that infina would be town if NaR were in fact scum)
15. tastelikecoke

neutral (not ordered)
7. Brooklynxman (gone so long that I don't remember what I thought)
14. jayhsu (lurky, picked on me, but seems to be cooperating with town)
18.weiyaoli (just don't have a feeling)
5.Dark Loink (no real vibe)

lurky/scummy
3. dotproduct

I'm going to hold off on voting, especially since I've been hopelessly wrong with most of my analysis in this game. But if nothing changes, it's going to dotproduct.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby frogman » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:14 pm UTC

To confirm, Van opted to drop out and I'm really tired of searching for replacements.
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby Two-Fry » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:23 pm UTC

Brooklynxman wrote:That can't be all the posts by dp, can it?

I went back through the thread and double checked it; there were no errors.

So, for lurking, and for the horrible WIFOM question directed at Van:
Vote: dotproduct
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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby Brooklynxman » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:32 pm UTC

I am sorry. I have absolutely NO knowledge, I was in a sort of limbo state, unable to post, but unable to read spoilers.

Vote: dotproduct

Super-lurking without the excuse of being zombified
We figure out what all this means, then do something large and violent

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Re: [Normal] Frogzombie - Day 3. I shouldn't mod in the summ

Postby mister k » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:46 am UTC

So, day three starts and we immediately start attacking dp? Hmm. Hes certainly been lurky, but surely discussion is beneficial.

Also, its worth considering brook. Now there are three possibilities I can see

-he's been reincarnated by the scum, and is a mafia supporter
-he's been reincarnated by the good guys, and is good
-he's been reincarnated by a third party, and his alignment is unknown.

Rating the possibilites is difficult, although if it is the second one it makes the town pretty damn strong.

on weiyoali- I think i'm happy to let that suspicion lie for now, so meh. Hmm. I think I need to think some more.
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