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[b.i.o]

Other thoughts. I just woke up from an impromptu nap and am rather addled (it just took me about 3 tries to spell impromptu), so forgive me being rather slow/forgetful at the moment.

I'm perfectly willing to listen to arguments from other people about who to lynch, since the other two lynch targets suggested that aren't me (arduous, NaR) were both high up on my probable scum list. However, in the interest of maybe de-messifying this game slightly by trying to verify an investigation result, I'm going to

vote: weiyaoli

I'm certainly not going to complain if he gets vig-killed today too or something. Although any potential vig should of course take what I'm saying with large dashes of salt.

[arduous]

Hmm, at this point it looks like our vig kill should go on weiyaoli. Sound good? If b.i.o is lying, we can kill him, and otherwise we get 1 scum down.

[Dr Ug]

I personally would still be in favour of a vig-kill of Az rather than weiyaoli, but that is up to the vig.

In the meantime,

Unvote: Arduous
Vote: Weiyaoli
FoS: Arduous

[ThinkSweet]

I think I semi trust Az (for now). Although It's still possible that both bio & Az are town.

I think bio has a cop, but I think it could be insane or something too, not just Az's once off. I'm not voting NaR off one person's idea with no evidence either.

So here's who I think are possibilities for being Mafia:
Az (could be Godfather, as bio suggested)
NaR (well it's possible, and has been suggested)
Weiyaoli (from bio's cop, although I'm not sure I trust his cop)
Dr Ug (if bio's cop is insane)

Those who I think are Townie:

Sungura
TLC (wackiness comes off a posting restrction to me, not scummy)
bio (if he has a cop, he shouldn't be mafia)

Also, are we assuming there is a vig? I read the sungura attack as being more like a power deflector or something?

[Not A Raptor]

Oh also forgot to add - as promised if I figure out a Megatriorchis in this game, I will let ya'all know. Check out Not A Raptor.
The only way this could backfire if a bastardly part is that Megatriorchis is not scum in this game. It's a risk I'm willing to take though, because, well, Mega is always scum.

Vote: Not A Raptor

The only Mega I am is mega-awesome. Unless you'd like to add to the investigation claims, in which case, I'd consider you out-of-character and lying. Or, you know, you could pull textual evidence out for a lynch of somebody you're convinced is scum.

[ThinkSweet]

On second thought, why not trust bio for now, it'd answer some questions about Az & Dr Ug without having to lynch bio, if he is a cop ... so

vote: Weiyaoli

[Dr Ug]

Those who I think are Townie:

Sungura

Why? I always seem to find Amy scummy, so I'd like to hear some evidence here (beyond the usual we trust her because she's Amy and she's always town line).

[VectorZero]

Supporters know who the scum are, scum do not know their supporters. And yes they win with the scum.

- He also was very quick to confirm the false flavor of Lataro's which just seemed odd at the time. You'll even notice I caught right away something was off with the flavor and I wasn't sure what to make with it. Most others were "huh" too, but not bio. Bio was all "Oh yay now we know what is going on!" Just seems a little too convenient.

tl;dr I'm good with a NaR or bio lynch today

So you think two-fry, who voted for bio, knew who the scum were, and you're happy to lynch bio today? Is that what you are saying?

[ThinkSweet]

Those who I think are Townie:

Sungura

Why? I always seem to find Amy scummy, so I'd like to hear some evidence here (beyond the usual we trust her because she's Amy and she's always town line).

Well that would be mainly because the Mafia tried to kill her
Although she's making some nice analysis posts which I tend to think are townie too.

Also, I guess VZ should go on the probably townie list too, for the same reasons.

[RoadieRich]

Suddenly, there was a whooshing sound, followed by a thud. Dr Ug was found in a pool of his own blood, apparently bisected by a large blade.

Dr Ug is dead. He was MasterOfAll, the master of all players, who could recruit players to his Mason-cult. Town.

Votals:
Not A Raptor: 1 (Sungura)
Weiyaoli: 2 (b.i.o, ThinkSweet)

12 Players left, 7 votes to lynch.

[VectorZero]

Son of a ...

Misguided vig kill? Probably not, more likely the scum kill, but why ug? His vague suspicion of Amy? Wine? Too much analysis?

[Dr Ug]

Ow.

[VectorZero]

So... to follow the claimed cop who hasn't been insta killed? I dunno. A weiyaoli lynch is tempting...

[ThinkSweet]

I'd assume mafia kill too. At least it lends some credence to bio's cop claim? I thought about why bio wasn't killed yet too, & I'd say either for wine, or because it's confirm his result on weiyaoli. Although he hasn't defended himself yet.

I wonder if the other mason (if Dr Ug recruited yesterday) still has a recruit?

[VectorZero]

Unfortunately a confirmed town result doesn't verify the cop.

I doubt the recruit has a recruit.

[ThinkSweet]

It doesn't rule it out either WIFOMy, but my vote stands for now.

[b.i.o]

Probably not, more likely the scum kill, but why ug?

I'd guess because he's confirmed town (by my investigation) and confirmed town players are good mafia kill targets usually. Really not sure why I wasn't targeted--I've been expecting them to try at some point, which is why I got my investigation results off as fast as I could. They're possibly trying to stir up the wine, or possibly they're afraid that I'm doctored (maybe by the kill-redirect person who protected Amy yesterday).

Unfortunately a confirmed town result doesn't verify the cop.

You are right that it doesn't verify completely that I'm town. It does, however, prove that I haven't been lying completely, and, more importantly, it tells me that my investigations are probably sane.

I doubt the recruit has a recruit.

I don't at all. Just like mafia kills aren't usually tied to any one person, cult and mason recruitment often isn't either, even when someone is designated as the cult/mason leader.

[VectorZero]

On balance, we're in a good position ATM. FTC it is.
Vote: weiyaoli

[tastelikecoke]

TLC (wackiness comes off a posting restrction to me, not scummy)

To talk about wackiness, Everyone seems to have suspicions on a certain person here, I couldn't make it out. One thing I read bio said arduous is Mega, then Sungura said NaR is Mega. I can't see through the fog, everybody seems suspicious here.

I feel definitely sure that b.i.o. is not scum, and same reasoning on Diablo II mafia, where Lataro acted too good to be true, because he's town. But then what makes that Az and wei to me is unclear. Wei lynch sounds like a win-win situation though, or at least have a good chance to be helpful.

And what about Misnomer though, he was lost in the conversation, and he wants to lynch the mod. He give a bunch of these informations,...

EDIT: wait, 6 fresh posts?

Still noncommitant enough for a vote.

[tastelikecoke]

EBWOP: Oh I didn't edit, but I previewed and saw 6 posts. Just in case anyone doubts me.

[b.i.o]

To talk about wackiness, Everyone seems to have suspicions on a certain person here, I couldn't make it out. One thing I read bio said arduous is Mega, then Sungura said NaR is Mega. I can't see through the fog, everybody seems suspicious here.

I trust Sungura's meta a lot more than I trust my own. Her play is very meta-based and mine is (with a few mostly Azrael-shaped exceptions) not at all. If she says NaR is role-Mega then she's almost certainly right.

And what about Misnomer though, he was lost in the conversation, and he wants to lynch the mod. He give a bunch of these informations,...

At this point there's absolutely no reason to do this. We have no assurance that he's telling the truth, no idea what lynching the mod is going to do to the game, and the town looks to be in a pretty good place right now.

[Not A Raptor]

To talk about wackiness, Everyone seems to have suspicions on a certain person here, I couldn't make it out. One thing I read bio said arduous is Mega, then Sungura said NaR is Mega. I can't see through the fog, everybody seems suspicious here.

I trust Sungura's meta a lot more than I trust my own. Her play is very meta-based and mine is (with a few mostly Azrael-shaped exceptions) not at all. If she says NaR is role-Mega then she's almost certainly right.

And what about Misnomer though, he was lost in the conversation, and he wants to lynch the mod. He give a bunch of these informations,...

At this point there's absolutely no reason to do this. We have no assurance that he's telling the truth, no idea what lynching the mod is going to do to the game, and the town looks to be in a pretty good place right now.

What I'd like to know is what she's basing it on. I've got a vested interest, obviously. What's more, isn't it possible that our own idiosyncrasies are throwing her meta-meta off?

Quite frankly, how meta are we willing to go, anyway?

[arduous]

Well, if I had to guess, I'd say Dr Ug was killed by scum or an SK, it just doesn't make sense that the vig would kill Dr Ug. I think a weiyaoli lynch is in order, but I'd like to wait and see if we still have a vig kill available. And if possible, I think weiyaoli is the best target.

[weiyaoli]

The funny thing is, I now know for sure bio isn't a cop.

I am Silknor and cop results on me always show up as town. So I have no clue what happened there unless bio isn't a cop. And we know his "cop" isn't insane because he got Dr Ug right.

Vote: bio

[Misnomer]

Huh, looks like there is a soft lynch after all. I'm fairly certain that I'm unable to soft lynch the mod though.

Also, yay at there being another scum death - would be interesting to know if 2-fry got round to assigning people roles, though I suppose given the inherent craziness of this game an extra role added would be a drop in the ocean. Still important to bear in mind though that somebody's role could have vastly changed between the start of D1 and D2.

But anyways, back to business...

Vote: AngrySquirrel

And what about Misnomer though, he was lost in the conversation, and he wants to lynch the mod. He give a bunch of these informations,...

EDIT: wait, 6 fresh posts?

Still noncommitant enough for a vote.

Why not cast a vote for AS while you're deciding? Go on, you know you want to.

[AngrySquirrel]

The sniper aims. Breathing steadily, controlling his nerves, carefully he starts squeezing the trigger, aiming straight at the squirrel. Then he sees it, the armor, the magic thingamajig that protects the squirrel from such idle fancies, he changes his mind and shots at the other target, the one he shot before. This time however his shot rings true. This time she dies.

Amy has been killed. She was Azrael001. SK with a role-investigation.

Votals:
3 weiyaoli (b.i.o, thinksweet, vectorzero)
1 bio (weiyaoli)
1 angrysquirrel (misnomer)

[Sruixan]

Posting to say that I was out unexpectedly yesterday and am a bit more behind than I'd like to be. I shall give the thread a read sometime this afternoon (I've got a haircut to get through before then) and I should hopefully have something to say on whatever's gone and happened whilst I was away shortly afterwards.

[VectorZero]

The sniper aims. Breathing steadily, controlling his nerves, carefully he starts squeezing the trigger, aiming straight at the squirrel. Then he sees it, the armor, the magic thingamajig that protects the squirrel from such idle fancies, he changes his mind and shots at the other target, the one he shot before. This time however his shot rings true. This time she dies.

Amy has been killed. She was Azrael001. SK with a role-investigation.

Well, that explains Amy's odd analyses, kinda. Also, it perhaps leads some credence to the role-VZ theory, since the flavour's quite similar to the sniper flavour from DN:L. Hmmm. Given how that game turned out, that worries me, immensely.

The funny thing is, I now know for sure bio isn't a cop. I am Silknor and cop results on me always show up as town

Dunno what to make of this. Vote stays, for now.

[Azrael001]

It is interesting that today is titled as it is, as I am he that is. The creator of twisted worlds, the inspiration of the "vanilla" game. Also in claiming to be Nebuduck on this day, I hope that I may be able to positively benefit the town with some more fun powers.

Also, the lack of bio death is either an attempt at WIFOM or (I think) more likely evidence of evil.

In any case, I'mma vote him again now.

Vote: bio

[Sungura]

Fuckity fuck fuck.

You know guys, you really make this game no fun to play if ya always kill me right away. *sighs* I was doing so awesome too.

[Azrael001]

Now you know how I always feel. (Regardless of whether I'm right or not.)

[AngrySquirrel]

Votals:
3 weiyaoli (b.i.o, thinksweet, vectorzero)
2 bio (weiyaoli, Azrael001)
1 angrysquirrel (misnomer)

11 players left, 6 to lynch.

[Sungura]

Now you know how I always feel. (Regardless of whether I'm right or not.)

Now I know? Dude this has been happening to me for at least a year now. 'Tis why I keep going on month+ breaks hoping people will forget about killing me right away. It never works apparently because I see a fun game and come back to sign up and same shit happens.

*now return you to your regularly scheduled game*

[tastelikecoke]

The funny thing is, I now know for sure bio isn't a cop.

I am Silknor and cop results on me always show up as town. So I have no clue what happened there unless bio isn't a cop. And we know his "cop" isn't insane because he got Dr Ug right.

Vote: bio

I think this post nail in the coffin. Saying you are cop is too situational to be considered.
I haven't seen anything that can go wrong with a lynch too.

vote: weiyaoli

And now, more confusion. Azrael claimed Nebuduck.
and whatever Misnomer is doing, He's probably going to gain something on a modlynch that we don't.

[Misnomer]

and whatever Misnomer is doing, He's probably going to gain something on a modlynch that we don't.

Nope - aside from getting my main win, I gain nothing special. I just get converted to a regular pro-town role and start helping you.

[weiyaoli]

The funny thing is, I now know for sure bio isn't a cop.

I am Silknor and cop results on me always show up as town. So I have no clue what happened there unless bio isn't a cop. And we know his "cop" isn't insane because he got Dr Ug right.

Vote: bio

I think this post nail in the coffin. Saying you are cop is too situational to be considered.

What? I haven't claimed cop.... :/ What are you saying?

[b.i.o]

What I'd like to know is what she's basing it on. I've got a vested interest, obviously. What's more, isn't it possible that our own idiosyncrasies are throwing her meta-meta off?

It is. However, you were near the top of my scum list before (for reasons I stated yesterday), and so the fact that Amy thinks you're Mega and therefore scum fits perfectly with what I believe.

I am Silknor and cop results on me always show up as town. So I have no clue what happened there unless bio isn't a cop. And we know his "cop" isn't insane because he got Dr Ug right.

Hahahahahahaha. Are you trying to tell us you're a godfather? Because that's the role that power's usually associated with. And it does fit with Silky being as sneaky-clever as he is. If you're telling the truth then I have no idea what happened, either. Perhaps I am right anyway because I am MartinW and you can't fool a bulldog. It doesn't really matter though. Even if I'm lying (and I'm not) you've just basically claimed godfather.

Also in claiming to be Nebuduck on this day, I hope that I may be able to positively benefit the town with some more fun powers.

Right. I'm pretty sure I know who you are, now.

Also, the lack of bio death is either an attempt at WIFOM or (I think) more likely evidence of evil.

You know, I was pretty sure we were on the same team for once. Now I'm not so sure. You'd rather lynch me, a cop, than someone I've investigated and found to be scum? Especially when that person has as much as claimed a godfather? Even if I'm lying (and I'm not) I'm almost certainly right.

[Azrael001]

I didn't catch the godfather thing (which is a good point I'll admit), and I did investigate you after all..

[ThinkSweet]

Amy was a SK? wow am i bad at picking scum. So do we trust her sus of NaR cos she had a role-cop, or discount it because she was a SK?

Either way, I'm still happy with my vote atm. I think it's quite possible weiyaoli is a Godfather, but even if he isnt, I still think we gain more info this way without risking our cop. Az, you should vote weiyaoli, and if he's town, everyone will help you vote bio tomorrow

[b.i.o]

What I'd like to know is what she's basing it on. I've got a vested interest, obviously. What's more, isn't it possible that our own idiosyncrasies are throwing her meta-meta off?

Oh, I actually know exactly how she knew:

Amy has been killed. She was Azrael001. SK with a role-investigation.

Note the last part of that. SK with a role-investigation. And, being an SK, she didn't have much incentive to lie, because lies are very dangerous.