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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby KrO2 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:00 am UTC

If we can assume there's only one mafia member alive, it clears lynx almost completely. More likely is that the mafia tried to kill the vig and were stopped. I need to work out the likelihood of mpolo being scum given that he made this claim. It makes him townier, but it could possibly be a clever move by a scum RB. mpolo, who did you target D1? There was almost certainly no scum kill, and that might have been because of you one way or another.

Toward the end of D2 wam's posts got slightly less townie. I no longer think he's the pinnacle of townieness, but still do not really suspect him.
lynx is as confirmed as it is possible to get in this game.
New User is still on the neutral-to-scummy side of my opinion. I'd like to see more from him so I can judge better.
mpolo is the other person I'm considering as scum. The fact that he didn't include his D1 target when he power claimed is possibly making me overreact, but it seemed like that would be an obvious thing to do.

I think if we have a doctor, he should maybe claim now and protect lynx if lynx will be on at deadline. Here's why.
Plan: If we have a doctor, claim and protect lynx. lynx, kill one of me/mpolo/NU, and we'll lynch another. Suppose wam is the doctor. Mafia kill him, and going into tomorrow it's lynx vs mafia. First to submit the kill wins. So only do this if lynx says he will be on at deadline.
Suppose NU claims doc. (It's not me and everyone else has claimed their power). Protect lynx. lynx, kill me or mpolo, mafia kill someone, lynch me/NU/mpolo, and it comes down to who is online at deadline. Or immediately after deadline.

This plan allows us to get two guesses at who might be scum and an even chance if the first two guesses are wrong. It's actually better than even because we get to decide to follow it if and only if the vig will be able to use the kill first thing in the morning. Doctor, don't claim until he says whether he can. I guess we'd have to account for hammers somehow; I hope that doesn't ruin the whole thing.

If we do not follow this plan, we get two guesses anyway. Never mind, unless the extra half chance is worth it.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby New User » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:44 am UTC

Sorry I haven't been online much this weekend, I've been bit busy. I missed the conclusion of Day 2, so I missed Dr Ug's roleclaim and KrO2's last-minute vote for himself. Dr Ug's role claim would have made me even more sure he is scum though, and for that I am worried. I think my scumdar is way off this game.

Someone challenged that I had brought up Serial Killer, which was a weird thing to suggest for a game this size. The only thing I have to say in my defense is that I am not entirely sure what I was thinking when I made that post, and I know that is a poor defense. I was busy this weekend, I checked in to the game and made a quick post. I was thinking of other roles that would have a kill power besides vigilante, and scum or serial killer is what I thought. The size and super-turboness of this game didn't cross my mind.

As for who we should lynch, well I just can't decide. Everyone has marks against him, myself included. My gut tells me KrO2 or lynx, but I am totally not sure (see "scumdar is way off" above). I am now thinking that lynx looks pretty bad because he is the only player who has claimed a killing power. Now, if he is scum, why didn't he just keep it quiet? Well I have a theory that is based on pure speculation, but facts are for pansy-ass bitches so here it is anyway: lynx and eculc were scum together, and lynx had the kill power. eculc was a mafia agent, which was a rolecop power. eculc rolecopped someone and saw that they have a power that lets them see what action was performed by lynx. Let's call that theoretical player the Watcher. He told lynx in private scum daychat to claim that he is a vigilante, to get one step ahead of the Watcher. lynx made the claim immediately, also explaining the exact WIFOM gambit that only a scum player would be so foolish as to make that claim. As I said, this theory is based on pure speculation as to what eculc's power was as a mafia agent. I admit there is a glaring hole in the theory, in that it can't explain the cop result that says lynx is town. Unless lynx is also the godfather.

Since lynx has claimed and mpolo has claimed, I am going to role claim. When there is a tie vote, the player I voted for is lynched. I know that contradicts the rules in the OP which says the player voted for first is lynched, and I can't explain that except for moderator oversight. We could ask the moderator to confirm, but I doubt he will.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby mpolo » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:37 am UTC

On Day 1, I almost did an impulsive protect/block of ahammel very early in the day, but decided that he might have a power that would be helpful -- it's the torture of a jailor power. Then the day went by before I decided that I trusted anyone enough to protect or distrusted enough to block.

As a result, I am assuming there is another doctor around somewhere. §$/"(%§"%
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby wam » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:19 am UTC

Ok important question, Lynx did you get notified in anyway that you were roleblocked?

As for now mpolo could be lying and saw the fact that lynx decided to not put in a kill as a good way to claim roleblocker.

But for now the suggestion that as a town roleblocker he blocked the vig

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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby mpolo » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:08 pm UTC

I did block him BEFORE Dr Ug came up with his cop results. Since I knew that I hadn't blocked anyone on Day 1, I was afraid that lynx might actually be the mafia killer.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby New User » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:18 pm UTC

I hadn't realized the deadline is so close. I'll vote for lynx, due to what I described in my previous post. We need to decide who to lynch right now. Also, I'm not lying about my vote being a tiebreaker. Keep that in mind as we decide who to vote.

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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby New User » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:21 pm UTC

Ooops, I hadn't realized there is already a vote on mpolo. If I vote for lynx, it'll be a tie and lynx will be lynched. I think we need more discussion but the deadline is scant hours away. I'd be happier lynching lynx or KrO2 instead of mpolo, but I'm not willing to let my tiebreaker power completely control the lynch if I'm the only one who thinks lynx is scum.

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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby KrO2 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:42 am UTC

New User voted for lynx (of all people) because of a very speculative possibility. It requires the existence of a VERY specific town power. It requires the the Mafia Agent to have been a role cop. It requires lynx to control the kill and be the godfather. (Note the use of the definite article. I'm not sure if NU's use of that implies that he knows something or not.) It needs all of those to be true, plus a coincidence or two. This is not a good reason for a vote. This possibility might actually be plausible if you already knew that some parts of it were true, though. But mainly this vote is because of the lack of real reasons.

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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby KrO2 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:44 am UTC

EBWOP: That's lack of real reasons behind NU's suspicion of lynx. I'm not saying it's just because I don't have suspicions of anyone else.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby KrO2 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:15 am UTC

Posting this as well. Today, I have been notified of being blocked and protected from kills.
Obviously, saying so might be a terrible idea, but I'm doing it because it's almost deadline and I just became much more convinced of mpolo's towniness. And he's headed for the lynch right now. If wam unvotes or someone else votes NU, I think we win.

(I mostly trust wam, lynx is very nearly confirmed, mpolo is apparently telling the truth about his power, and New User looks scummier even if it weren't for process of elimination.)

Seriously, vote for the guy who wants to lynch confirmed town.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 3: COLD blooded lynching.

Postby Vieto » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:50 am UTC

And so everyone kept on raising and pointing their guns at each other.
"Who do you think did it?."
"What?"
"That ain't no Samuel L. Jackson character I've ever heard of."
"Well, mpolo did it, clearly."
"He ain't either."
"Yes, but he is in a mafia game."
"Hey, I ain't done nothing."
"You shut up!"
And so, Lazurus, aka Mpolo was shot. After reading his file, they found him to be a SERIAL KILLER. Huh.

Mpolo has been lynched (he was the first one voted for in the tie). He was Lazurus, and his portfolio states he is a SERIAL KILLER.

It is day 4. 36 hours until lynch. 4 players alive, 3 to lynch.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 4: Another Snake-related de

Postby New User » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:11 am UTC

So until now we had one serial killer and one mafioso. And yet lynx is still the only character in the game connected to a kill of any kind. I don't see how this makes lynx "confirmed town."
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 4: Another Snake-related de

Postby lynx » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:49 pm UTC

Right guys. Calm down. I need a read-through! Sorry, I've been really busy these last few days and not around a computer.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 4: Another Snake-related de

Postby lynx » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:57 pm UTC

I was roleblocked D2, and protected from kills. This leads me to believe we have a jailkeeper and he targetted mpolo D1. We have three players so I'm so unsure what to do. Jailkeeper is still alive and I basically have to decide between NU and KrO2 as scum. KrO2 claims to have been targetted with this but it could mean he just knows we have one. I'm going to read through and either win or lose this for town depending on the outcome I think.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 4: Another Snake-related de

Postby lynx » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:00 pm UTC

I'm going to kill NU and vote for Kr. Kr, if you're scum go ahead and kill me. If you don't have a kill for any reason you lose.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 4: Another Snake-related de

Postby lynx » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:01 pm UTC

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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 4: Another Snake-related de

Postby lynx » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:02 pm UTC

Just a clarification, the kill was sent off first so no hammering is possible! Sorry for the huge number of posts by the way.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 4: Another Snake-related de

Postby lynx » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:08 pm UTC

Unvote
I'm a horrible person and an idiot. Pending mod reply on whether or not I can take back my kill. wam is still here and could finish us off if the kill goes through! Jailkeeper please protect me on a 1,2 or 3 dice roll. I'll use my kill on the majority chosen target if I'm not roleblocked (presuming I'm allowed to take the kill back). I'll check back in an hour and if the mod hasn't been online, I'll be gone until tomorrow morning. Sorry for fucking everything up, motherfuckers! :(
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Day 4: Another Snake-related de

Postby Vieto » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:23 pm UTC

Jules looked at Nick Fury, who had just taken out a bazooka. He knew he had to act fast, so he took out his gun and said "The path of a righteous man..."
A rocket streamed passed him, nearly hitting his ear. Obviously pissed off, he went back and said "Ezekiel 25:17, motherfucker." and blew his brains out.

Looking at his profile, he read as New User, Nick Fury, TOWN. Disappointed, they go on to another bout of lynching when suddenly the real SLJ comes out and says "Hey, why are you motherfuckers killing each other? I'm alive." Shocked, the remaining townies celibate their victory.


TOWN WINS. New User and Eculc were the mafia.

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On a side note, I was disappointed that the first 3 people to die were the Cop, the guy who can fool the cop, and the replacement cop. :(
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Game Over. Samuel L Jackson win

Postby lynx » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:37 pm UTC

Tee hee. Yay?

edit: any chance of a spoiler for any of that? can't see google docs in china.

Cheers for the game and sorry everyone for my irresponsibility as vig! I'll be more careful next time I'm assigned it.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Game Over. Samuel L Jackson win

Postby mpolo » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:49 pm UTC

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Spoiler:
Ray Arnold: Eculc

You are Samuel L. Jackson, starring as Ray Arnold. As one of the main characters in Jurassic Park, you expected to be one of the characters in Jurassic Park Mafia. But as everyone else received mail, you realized you were not invited. Furious, you decided to seek revenge, and joined the Mafia. Your other mafia mate is ‘New User’.

You are the MAFIA AGENT. The sheriff has access to an online database, which he can access once per day to learn a player’s alignment. You can hack into this database, once per day, and change the player’s alignment to whatever you feel like (mafia, town, agent, independent, serial killer, mason, cult or jester). You may not alter your own report (it most likely reads MAFIA AGENT). As it is a nightless game, you have daychat.


Nick Fury: New User

You are Samuel L. Jackson, Starring as Nick Fury. Turned evil in the last game you were in, you decided you liked being evil, and became the mafia Godfather. Along the way, you recruited ‘Eculc’.

You are the MAFIA GODFATHER. As the Godfather, all cops on you return as town. As the game is nightless, you do not have a mafia kill, but you do have daychat.


Jules Winnfield: lynx

You are Samuel L. Motherfucking Jackson, starring as Jules from Pulp fiction, motherfucker. You are a vigilante, killing those who have done you wrong, or someone above you wrong. Generally speaking, you do not like doing your killing in public, so you will kill those who are in your way when nobody is looking.

You are a TOWN VIGILANTE. You have a private daykill that can be used once a day.


Frozone: Dr Ug

You are Samuel L. Jackson, playing as Lucius Best (aka Frozone). Realizing you have been relocated to a place surrounded by other versions of yourself, you try to fit in. But you receive a cold reception, as your background in a family movie means you cannot swear. Well, not unless you use an ice pun. Then its fine. Of course, even then you do not want to get involved, although death might change that.

You are a TOWN REPLACEMENT. You gain the same ability that the first townie to die had, but until then you are vanilla, motherfucker.


Lazarus: mpolo

You are Samuel L. Jackson, playing as Lazarus. You are a good person, sort of, and when you find someone in trouble, or who is sick, you want to help them, in true Motherfucker fashion. Which is to say, you take some chains, and chain them to a wall. Really, its for their own good.

You are a TOWN JAILOR. You have a daily role block, which doubles as a doctor to protect them from day kills for the remainder of the day.


Mace Windu: Wam

You are Samuel L. Jackson, playing as Mace Windu. You are a peaceful Jedi, spouting both wisdom and profanity, much like all other Samuel L. Jackson roles. Of course, they key difference is that you have a lightsaber, along with the force. as a result, the first action used directly against you each day is rendered void, but the second one (if there is one) each day gets through, because lets face it: They are all Samuel L. Motherfucking Jackson as well.

You are a TOWN (semi)-BULLETPROOF. Each day, the first action used directly against you is cancelled, but all others get through.


Neville Flynn: ahammel

You are Samuel L. Jackon, starring as Neville Flynn. When you are not shooting snakes (or sharks, I guess), you are a member of the FB motherfucking I, and as such you have access to the databases on all other Samuel L. Jacksons. This makes you very important. Of course, you can only read upon one player each day, as you need to enter 50 different verification codes, and your e-mail (twice).

You are a TOWN SHERIFF, and you are sane. There is a database with every player and their alignments. Each day, you may read from this one player’s alignment (cop them).

Russell Franklin: KrO2

You are Samuel L. Jackson, starring as Russell Franklin. Having survived avalanches, and being Samuel L. Jackson, you can create stirring speeches, which you can use to force a player to vote for whoever you are voting for. Which is really awesome. You can only do it once, as speeches stop becoming inspiring after the first use.

You are a TOWN BRIBER. You have a one-shot public vote change, which you can use to force a player to vote for another player for the rest of the day.


Contents of the spreadsheet with messed up format:

Spoiler:
Player Role Name Alignment Role Description On file:
Eculc Ray Arnold (Jurassic Park) Mafia (Agent) Mafia Agent. Each night, perminently change how a player is viewed to copping roles (excluding yourself). Mafia Agent
New User Nick Fury (The Avengers) Mafia (Godfather) Mafia godfather, turns up as town to Cop roles. 1-shot public kill, tie-breaker. Town
lynx Jules Winnfield (Pulp Fiction) town Vigilante, has a daily kill. Town
Dr Ug Lucius Best, Frozone (The Incredibles) town Replaces first town role lost. Otherwise, town. Town
mpolo Lazarus (Black Snake Moan) town Has a roleblock, which doubles as a doctor. Serial killer
Wam Mace Windu (Star Wars) town Bulletproof. Town
ahammel Neville Flynn (Snakes on a Plane) town Sheriff, knows himself to be sane. Checks files on a player each day. Player files are revealed on death, actual alignment revealed at game end. Town
KrO2 Russell Franklin (Deep Blue Sea) town Charismatic, can publicly force another player to vote with him. Town


Nice to win for a change -- I only had the one scum lead though, so wasn't overly upset to disappear. Congratulations, lynx, on using your vig successfully on the last day!
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Game Over. Samuel L Jackson win

Postby Vieto » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:37 pm UTC

Oddly enough, as I had submitted the 'Game Over' post, Lynx was pming me to cancel his kill :lol: So the game might have ended differently.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Game Over. Samuel L Jackson win

Postby New User » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:13 am UTC

I had to survive for one more day to win. If lynx was lynched, we would have won. Also, I didn't know that eculc's database profile would show up after the player died, and I don't think eculc knew either. I thought it was only for cop results. If we had known that, it would have been a lot easier. We could have changed lynx's profile to scum, then I could have used the public kill on him and claimed that I was the vigilante. lynx would have shown to be mafia after he died, and we would have played through the rest of the game thinking there was only one more mafioso alive. At least, until eculc was lynched, and then confusion would reign. As things worked out, I couldn't use my kill without immediately drawing so much suspicion that lynx would kill me, I would be lynched, or lynx would be lynched. If lynx was lynched and returned town, I would be lynched the next day. I had no choice but to save the kill power until the end of the game.
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Re: Samuel L. Jackson mafia: Game Over. Samuel L Jackson win

Postby eculc » Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:02 am UTC

well, I knew my alignment would show up, but not my role (although I suppose it was hinted at in my role PM).
Um, this post feels devoid of content. Good luck?
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