2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

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2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Hiferator » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:36 pm UTC

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Title text: We were going to do a falling-apart Rubik's cube that was just 27 independent blocks stuck together with magnets, but then we realized it was actually really cool and even kind of worked, so we cut that one.

Now I want one of those magnet Rubik's cubes. Thus their non-existence makes them fall in line with the others.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby moody7277 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:41 pm UTC

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Weeks » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:29 pm UTC

Insert dildo joke here.

*raucous laughter* *applause*
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Flumble » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:39 pm UTC

Weeks wrote:Insert dildo joke here.

*raucous laughter* *applause*

Those are very filling though.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby linux2647 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:40 pm UTC

No-strings-attached Yo-Yos actually exist and are kind of cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i0InwW0V9k

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:45 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:
Weeks wrote:Insert dildo joke here.

*raucous laughter* *applause*

Those are very filling though.

The disappointing unfulfilling ones aren't. (That's the joke).
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby keldor » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:55 pm UTC

We had some pump-only supersoakers as kids. The pump didn't actually pressurize anything, but worked like a bicycle pump and directly squirted the water.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Archgeek » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:07 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:
Weeks wrote:Insert dildo joke here.

*raucous laughter* *applause*

Those are very filling though.

I... I don't think you're supposed to eat those.
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby rmsgrey » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:29 pm UTC

I'm not sure whether a simple set of 27 cubes would work - a lot of the magic of a Rubik's Cube is in the action of scrambling it, which is lost if you have to be careful to keep it together and simulate the constraints the Rubik's Cube enforces automatically.

On the other hand, if there's a way to get a Rubik's Cube with an easier reset than finding someone who knows how to solve one, that would add some value (though lose bragging rights for having a solved one around)

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby cellocgw » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:34 pm UTC

Archgeek wrote:
Flumble wrote:
Weeks wrote:Insert dildo joke here.

*raucous laughter* *applause*

Those are very filling though.

I... I don't think you're supposed to eat those.


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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby pkcommando » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:39 pm UTC

How about a pre-assembled, fully glued, LEGO set?
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby pogrmman » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:54 pm UTC

rmsgrey wrote:I'm not sure whether a simple set of 27 cubes would work - a lot of the magic of a Rubik's Cube is in the action of scrambling it, which is lost if you have to be careful to keep it together and simulate the constraints the Rubik's Cube enforces automatically.

On the other hand, if there's a way to get a Rubik's Cube with an easier reset than finding someone who knows how to solve one, that would add some value (though lose bragging rights for having a solved one around)


Those Rubik’s cubes do exist — my friend has one (though instead of colors, the sides are numbers on dice). You just have to be careful when scrambling it and solving it, but it works great!

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Flumble » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:32 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:(That's the joke).

Oh hehehe, I was completely oblivious that I repeated the joke. While reading Weeks' reply, I was fully in the mindset of "children's toys", for whom dildos are just useless* toys, making it a far more innocent joke. :oops:

*well, you can always play catch with them, or, if it's one with a suction cup, throwing it against a smooth wall, or use it as a prop in make believe.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Weeks » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:00 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:
Pfhorrest wrote:(That's the joke).

Oh hehehe, I was completely oblivious that I repeated the joke. While reading Weeks' reply, I was fully in the mindset of "children's toys", for whom dildos are just useless* toys, making it a far more innocent joke. :oops:

*well, you can always play catch with them, or, if it's one with a suction cup, throwing it against a smooth wall, or use it as a prop in make believe.
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:15 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:
Archgeek wrote:
Flumble wrote:
Weeks wrote:Insert dildo joke here.

*raucous laughter* *applause*

Those are very filling though.

I... I don't think you're supposed to eat those.

You haven't been watching the right lesbian fem-dom videos.

Who says it has to be lesbian fem-dom? Men can eat dildos too.
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Archgeek » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:56 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:
cellocgw wrote:
Archgeek wrote:
Flumble wrote:
Weeks wrote:Insert dildo joke here.

*raucous laughter* *applause*

Those are very filling though.

I... I don't think you're supposed to eat those.

You haven't been watching the right lesbian fem-dom videos.

Who says it has to be lesbian fem-dom? Men can eat dildos too.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Weeks » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:00 pm UTC

Archgeek wrote:TIL: There exist dildos either intended for consumption or least non-toxic that are made of a material of sufficiently low density that it can be bitten through and in some manner consumed.
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Weeks » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:03 pm UTC

I guess your joke was unfulfilling

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby RogueCynic » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:20 pm UTC

pogrmman wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I'm not sure whether a simple set of 27 cubes would work - a lot of the magic of a Rubik's Cube is in the action of scrambling it, which is lost if you have to be careful to keep it together and simulate the constraints the Rubik's Cube enforces automatically.

On the other hand, if there's a way to get a Rubik's Cube with an easier reset than finding someone who knows how to solve one, that would add some value (though lose bragging rights for having a solved one around)


Those Rubik’s cubes do exist — my friend has one (though instead of colors, the sides are numbers on dice). You just have to be careful when scrambling it and solving it, but it works great!


Not the best picture but here you go.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby balthasar_s » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:21 pm UTC

my uncle once received a very cheap Rubik's cube.
He started playing with it.
When he continued rotating it, it was getting harder and harder to move.
He started ratating in the opposite direction.
Suddenly it fell apart.

Because, (as he then could see) the cube was held together by six screws.
Rotating clockwise tightened the screws and anticlockwise loosened them.
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Flumble » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:59 pm UTC

Weeks wrote:
Flumble wrote:Oh hehehe, I was completely oblivious that I repeated the joke. While reading Weeks' reply, I was fully in the mindset of "children's toys", for whom dildos are just useless* toys, making it a far more innocent joke. :oops:

*well, you can always play catch with them, or, if it's one with a suction cup, throwing it against a smooth wall, or use it as a prop in make believe.
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby rmsgrey » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:37 pm UTC

pogrmman wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:I'm not sure whether a simple set of 27 cubes would work - a lot of the magic of a Rubik's Cube is in the action of scrambling it, which is lost if you have to be careful to keep it together and simulate the constraints the Rubik's Cube enforces automatically.

On the other hand, if there's a way to get a Rubik's Cube with an easier reset than finding someone who knows how to solve one, that would add some value (though lose bragging rights for having a solved one around)


Those Rubik’s cubes do exist — my friend has one (though instead of colors, the sides are numbers on dice). You just have to be careful when scrambling it and solving it, but it works great!


The having to be careful is my point there - it makes it fiddly rather than fun.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Soupspoon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:12 am UTC

The (Rubik's-esque, but not licenced under that name) Tetrahedron was the most falling-apartingly iteration, from all the various ones I've had.

Also, given it has nine triangles per side, the three non-corner, non-edge triangles were the "centre" pieces (mechanically), the three corners of each side were just free-wheeling tetrahedra standing out from the last three with no complex freedom of movement other than being 0, 1 or 2/3rds out of alignment, a simple and disconnected twist away from the One True Position at whim. The three edge-pieces were the "transportable" pieces that could/could not agree with the rotations of the rest as you shuffled them around the middle hexagons, and the tolerances of the "gripped by the spinny bits" mouldings were such that they easily popped out. Whether because you wanted to cheat-dis/reassemble or just because you weren't carefully whilst twisting the main axes around.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Showsni » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:34 am UTC

The cup and ball with ball slightly too large to fit in the cup.
The Jacob's ladder where the blocks are only held by a single ribbon down the middle.
The half-a-hula-hoop.
The three foot long skipping rope.
The all spherical building blocks.
The all cuboid marbles.
The velcro mitts/pads and ball set, with all velcro surfaces having just the velvet part.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby rmsgrey » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:45 pm UTC

Showsni wrote:The all spherical building blocks.
The all cuboid marbles.

Which if bought together get you what you presumably wanted after all...

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby lgw » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:27 pm UTC

RogueCynic wrote:Not the best picture but here you go.


I have to say I'm surprised by the lack of overlap between these forums and cubers. Here's a review of a reasonable-quality magnetic cube - the 3x3 works better than you'd think. There's also a longer Mathologer vid that goes into more detail and has an interview with the guy who makes them.

Cubes with more normal mechanisms, but magnets to help them click into alignment, are a recent trend.

Edit: aren't group theorists required by law and custom to have a cube on their desks at all times?
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby rmsgrey » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:38 pm UTC

lgw wrote:Edit: aren't group theorists required by law and custom to have a cube on their desks at all times?


Not necessarily a group theorist, but I have two within arms reach...

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby pogrmman » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:06 am UTC

lgw wrote:
RogueCynic wrote:Not the best picture but here you go.


I have to say I'm surprised by the lack of overlap between these forums and cubers. Here's a review of a reasonable-quality magnetic cube - the 3x3 works better than you'd think. There's also a longer Mathologer vid that goes into more detail and has an interview with the guy who makes them.

Cubes with more normal mechanisms, but magnets to help them click into alignment, are a recent trend.

Edit: aren't group theorists required by law and custom to have a cube on their desks at all times?

That reasonable-quality one is what my friend (who is a cuber) has. It’s not like it falls apart, but you do have to be more careful with it than a regular cube. Plus, turning it isn’t entirely smooth because of the way the magnets are. And I hate the parity that pops up in the centers (but that applies for lots of 3x3 cubes). It’s a neat cube, but it’s certainly not my favorite.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby xtifr » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:14 am UTC

You want fiddly? My brother has a Rubik's Cube he made out of paper! It's fully functional, but very delicate. Not completely unfulfilling, but definitely a case of being more fun to make than to use. (Or so he assures me.)
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby keldor » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:49 am UTC

Showsni wrote:The cup and ball with ball slightly too large to fit in the cup.
The Jacob's ladder where the blocks are only held by a single ribbon down the middle.
The half-a-hula-hoop.
The three foot long skipping rope.
The all spherical building blocks.
The all cuboid marbles.
The velcro mitts/pads and ball set, with all velcro surfaces having just the velvet part.


The cup and ball are just a more challenging type, where you have to keep the ball balanced on the opening of the cup through the catching motion.

The three foot long skipping rope is intended for young kids.

The spherical building blocks and the cuboid marbles are simply misnamed. The proper names are "croquet balls" and "dice" respectively.

The other three I'm not so sure of XD.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby da Doctah » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:41 am UTC

keldor wrote:The spherical building blocks and the cuboid marbles are simply misnamed. The proper names are "croquet balls" and "dice" respectively.


Somewhere around here I've got a set of spherical dice. There's some kind of cubical weight inside, in a cavity slightly larger than the cube, so it stops rolling with one of six regions of the spherical surface upwards.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Sableagle » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:52 am UTC

rmsgrey wrote:
lgw wrote:Edit: aren't group theorists required by law and custom to have a cube on their desks at all times?


Not necessarily a group theorist, but I have two within arms reach...

Does having two group theorists within arms' reach make you a group-hug theorist?
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Archgeek » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:15 pm UTC

xtifr wrote:You want fiddly? My brother has a Rubik's Cube he made out of paper! It's fully functional, but very delicate. Not completely unfulfilling, but definitely a case of being more fun to make than to use. (Or so he assures me.)

You want even more fiddly? Someone a while back on the Kerbal Space Program forums made a working cube out of stock parts.
I think it has some collider abuse for a bearing and a lot of docking ports.
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby SuicideJunkie » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:59 pm UTC

da Doctah wrote:Somewhere around here I've got a set of spherical dice. There's some kind of cubical weight inside, in a cavity slightly larger than the cube, so it stops rolling with one of six regions of the spherical surface upwards.

I had a pair of those that broke.

The inside has plastic ridges dividing it into six zones, and a small ball bearing to pick one of those buckets and hold the die in place once it stops rolling fast enough to dump the bearing into the next bucket over and over again.

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby morerokk » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:11 am UTC

A yoyo without the string attached is by no means "unfulfilling"! There is an entire class of yoyo tricks dedicated to this style (4A), usually called "offstring".

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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Mikeski » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:48 pm UTC

pkcommando wrote:How about a pre-assembled, fully glued, LEGO set?

I think the LEGO equivalent would be a set that has no pieces with studs.

So only pieces like these:
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And none like these:
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Re: 2049: "Unfulfilling Toys"

Postby Perrin » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:04 pm UTC

“Grot has lots of things that aren’t of any use, some of them are red, some of them are green and some of them are puce.”

The Grot shops stock lots of things like this.


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