1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tman2nd » Fri May 03, 2013 4:23 am UTC

jetpac wrote:shouldn't there be a newpic by now? There's a new OtherComic: http://xkcd.com/1207/, and I haven't been following along closely enough to know if that means that the newpix is twice as long in Outsider time

There is a new one. Look a few posts back from your comment.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri May 03, 2013 4:26 am UTC

jetpac, KarMann noticed around newpage 498 or so that something is up with the servers. At least one of them is being slow1

1 like the River.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby KarMann » Fri May 03, 2013 4:28 am UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:
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Ebonite wrote:[snip]I was really, really impressed with jjjdavidson's song "Wonderful Walk". I appreciate it when a parodist (is that a word?) not only preserves rhyme scheme, but proper meter! That work of art belongs somewhere in the OTC Hall of Fame next to BlitzGirl's grid, BuffyGirl's hats, aubronwood's site, etc.

Wow, thank you! I'm absolutely anal about meter; it chaps me when I have to fudge a syllable or an accent. (By the way, I just call the process "filking"; 25 years in the SCA.)

O hai! Me too; I might have a year or two on you, if you were that precise. But on the other hand, I've been inactive but meaning to get back to it many, many of these intervening years, so you probably have me beat handily in terms of how much time you've actually been active, how many events attended, etc.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AluisioASG » Fri May 03, 2013 4:30 am UTC

Oh, I had to cross-post this from the 1207 thread:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby KarMann » Fri May 03, 2013 4:31 am UTC

Helper wrote:
Opiboble wrote:HOLY CARP BATMAN! Latent22 just noticed your avatar is a slow gif, scared the crap out of me when it changed!!!

I suppose you could say the change was...
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slow.

I thought it was . . . 8-)
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a little fishy.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri May 03, 2013 4:36 am UTC

KarMann wrote:
Helper wrote:
Opiboble wrote:HOLY CARP BATMAN! Latent22 just noticed your avatar is a slow gif, scared the crap out of me when it changed!!!

I suppose you could say the change was...
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slow.

I thought it was . . . 8-)
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a little fishy.

Not surprising, cats like eating those.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby KarMann » Fri May 03, 2013 4:43 am UTC

Smithers wrote:
buffygirl wrote:1 Pet peeve -- the use of i.e. where it should be e.g. and vice versa.2
2 Pet peeve -- spelling or speaking the term "vice versa" as "vise-a -versa".

I don't think I've seen the vicey-versa2 case much. But use of i.e. where there should be e.g. is very much a pet peeve. Also the use of I.E. where there should be Firefox.

I hope you don't mind; I just had to post part of this ("use . . . Firefox.") on my Facebook. Too precious not to share. :D
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby uaeio » Fri May 03, 2013 4:45 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eternal Density » Fri May 03, 2013 4:48 am UTC

buffygirl wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:I want to sing this:


Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the sea and see

... (someone continue!)

I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy
Because I'm easy come, easy go
A little high, little low
Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me, to me


... (someone continue!)

Edit: Otherwise, I will. And you don't want me to do that. You don't want to see me when I do that.

Is it weird that I only know this from Reddit comment trees that go off topic?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby PhoenixRising » Fri May 03, 2013 4:53 am UTC

Mini-Blitz, catching up from what I missed during coma and work:

Spoiler:
dreiarmumig wrote:<snip>
- sigged.


I promised. And I always keep my promises.

*begins dousing dreiarmumig in chocolate*


Neil_Boekend wrote:
Swein wrote:I understand your concern for those who are travelling through Time, but my images should not change with time. I download the image to my disk and then upload it to the forum. A cumbersome process, but I prefer to not have any URLs involved. I don't trust them! Ok, some of my best friends are URLs, but in general I find them flimsy and unreliable!


How can you say that? Images shouldn't change with time? Do you insinuate the One True Comic is wrong? Heresy! I call for the Chocolate and Liquorice!


He's referring to the fact that the OTC has had frames ninja-changed long after they were posted. Proof of this has been posted numerous times. I find chocolate and licorice unnecessary, given these circumstances. Besides, I'm busy coating someone else in chocolate atm.


Vytron wrote:Alright, made it to 301. 199 pages behind. I AM MAKING PROGRESS!

Also, congrats PhoenixRising for catching up! (whenever you did, I just noticed the change.)

I must be more careful, when trying to post, I saw several posts with images that ninja'd me, glances into the future. Was that... the Statue of Liberty? And... strawberries? Luckily, it was so quick I couldn't really tell.

Anyway, must go comatose, hopefully it includes vivid hallucinations I can remember (instead of forgetting them when I wake up recover from coma.)

May you live in interesting times.


Thanks! :mrgreen: Wait fast and well, Vytron. Your turn is coming soon! *sends strength to the past*

Yeah, be careful of the imageninjas. I ran into a few of those myself but, like you, avoided them quickly. Doesn't hurt that there are so many Photoshopped images floating around, so you can never tell if a frame is legit or not.


Dracomax wrote:The need for the hand of the inquisition has drawn me forward through time, summoned by the word She Who Comes With The Lightening Pixel and PhoenixRising to accomplish my work. let the merangue factories Return to Full Production, and the comfortable chairs be made ready!

I just got really far behind, and workload picked up, so I Kept falling farther and farther behind... Then said screw it.


Hurray! Viva la Inquisicion! Iunno if that's the right spelling. I also don't care nearly enough to find out. Welcome back, Dracomax! We've missed you. And we're sorely in need of a Grand High Lord Inquisitor atm.

Wait. I just helped summon the Inquisition. I feel evil now...

Oh well. Prepare the comfy chairs and boil the chocolate!


AluisioASG wrote:
PhoenixRising wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:A gift from 20 NewPages ago (right after Pope Helper the First's return):
<imgsnip>

In Dracomax's absence, I will do this myself. *prepares chocolate and licorice* Prepare to face the Inquisition!

dreiarmumig wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:<the above>

Damn you! I had only just gotten rid of the flickering afterimage on my retinae. If this gets posted one more time I'm gonna sig it.

Oh? *prepares more chocolate*


Is that a threat? Good luck with that.
Also, if you ever do that again, I will use the HypnoGif as my avatar. And no amount of PMs will make me change it.


ok, I won't. *quietly beckons Dracomax over* You'll note I made no promises about what Draco would or would not do. ;) All in good fun, ofc.


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  • to have forsaken the seductions of the Newpix from the present Time in favor of properly Waiting For Them, and to that end,
  • to have embarked on the Sacred Quest of going back to the Beginning Of Time (or the beginning of the period of failure to properly Wait For It) and reading the OTT, wherein under the Sacred Ong the frames will be revealed in a proper and Timely manner, as is meet and good for the soul, and
  • to have successfully made it to the Present Time, having thus fully experienced the time between the Frames Of Time.

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If there be any who, having done all these things and reached the Present Time, are ready for coronation, step forward now. And those who are still on Pilgrimage and have reached this point, let them also step forward and be acknowledged as True Pilgrims of Time, to be crowned upon completion of their Quest.

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I finished my quest several (17) Newpix ago. I believe you already crowned me as BlitzGirl the Next though, or was there a more formal ceremony I missed?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby astrocub » Fri May 03, 2013 5:06 am UTC

Image

She forgot that the river is deadly?!?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Fri May 03, 2013 5:07 am UTC

Valarya wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:I see some folks here speak arrogantly when mentioning the Outer Threads. I must warn you that the forum thread for xkcd #2300, the first 11-dimentional comic, got 3.14k replies in the first two days.


Are you from the future? :shock:

Some interesting numbers here:
3.14 approximately pi
23 approximately half the Adams number 42
11 the smallest symmetrical two digit number
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eutychus » Fri May 03, 2013 5:09 am UTC

astrocub wrote:Image

She forgot that the river is deadly?!?


Seems like it. But why has nobody posted the newpic?

[Edit: because they added it afterwards...]
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Fri May 03, 2013 5:16 am UTC

Latent22 wrote:

yeah brand new user. Should we pm and ask it to join the OTT discussion? HAL may like someone to talk with.

It's been noticed a couple of times that the bot doesn't contribute. Perhaps some looney at Google is about to.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mathrec » Fri May 03, 2013 5:19 am UTC

AluisioASG wrote:I want to sing this:


Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the sea and see

... (someone continue!)

I'm just a Cueball. I need no sympathy, because
I'm easy come, easy go. Little high little low.
Even if the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me...to me.

Megan. Just just slipped again.
Dropped my bottle, oh dear me.
Now it's floating out to sea.
And Megan. Our walk had just begun.
And now it floating all away.
Megan, ooo
Didn't mean to make you cry.
If we get back home again tomorrow
Carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters.

Too late. Our Time has come
Sends shivers down my spine.
Ocean's rising all the time.
Goodbye to our castle - We've got to go.
Gotta leave it all behind and find the truth.
Megan, ooo (even if the wind blows)
I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all

I see a little sillouetto of a man
Trebuchet, trebuchet will it wreck the sand castle?
Scaffolding and rising
Very enterpising...we
build it higher, build it higher,
build it higher, build it higher,
build it higher...
(La Petite: "magnifico")

I'm just a poor boy, somebody tell me
He's just a poor boy, never seen reality
Show him some life past this monstrosity
Easy come easy go - will you let me go?
Oh Cueball, pack your bag and we will go. Time to go!
Oh cueball, pack your bag and we will go. Time to go!
It's time for us to go. Time to go!
Now it's time to go. Time to go!
Time for us to go - ooo
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go
Oh Megan whee-oh, Megan whee-oh, Megan whee-oh...we can go!
The rising sea is a riddle made for you and me
so we...
so we...

So you think we can roam free and wander outside?
So you think we can leave here and then become wise?
Oh baby - just come now with me baby
Just gotta get out - just gotta get right outta here

Ooh yeah, ooh yeah.
Nothing really matters
Anyone can see
Nothing really matter - nothing really matters to me
(Even if the wind blows)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Fri May 03, 2013 5:21 am UTC

Exodies wrote:
Valarya wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:I see some folks here speak arrogantly when mentioning the Outer Threads. I must warn you that the forum thread for xkcd #2300, the first 11-dimentional comic, got 3.14k replies in the first two days.


Are you from the future? :shock:

Some interesting numbers here:
3.14 approximately pi
23 approximately half the Adams number 42
11 the smallest symmetrical two digit number


The digits in 3.14 add up to 8. 3140 divided by 8 is 392.5. 3 * 9 * 2 * 5 = 270. 2 and 7 is 9, which is 3 squared.
23 is the 9th prime number. 3 squared. 2 + 3 is 5, the third prime number (not counting one).
11 is the smallest positive integer requiring three syllables. Also, 11 is the atomic number of Sodium, known by chemical symbol Na. Na is a rot-13 palindrome, a term I just made up meaning it is reversed exactly when put through a rot-13 cipher. 13 is the 6th prime number, and 13 - 6 is 7, the 4th prime number. 7 - 4 is 3.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Fri May 03, 2013 5:30 am UTC

Maybe we could understand the dialogue better if we examined how each piece changed our view of what was going on. This problem is a bit like trying to understand birdsong or a message from a distant Time. Where are the philologists when you need them?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Fri May 03, 2013 5:32 am UTC

Helper wrote:
StratPlayer wrote:
fatness wrote:

Wait until the real googlebot gets wind of this...bits will fly!


Do you think one of the bots tried to escape from the collective???

If there's one escapee, there'll probably be more. I wonder if anybody has ever setup a web forum along with a farm of AI chatterbots. It could probably pass the forum-Turing-test (a variant of the Turing test to differentiate between computers and forum-users, rather than human beings).

This is quite common in IRC. I had one which was an expertblabbermouth in advertising theory and maths. Called Chalkey.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Latent22 » Fri May 03, 2013 5:33 am UTC

Google Bot wrote:Quest progress: 250 out of 511 pages.
It's taken me a long time but I'm nearly half way though now. At my current rate I should be caught up in about 200ms.

I wrote individual replies to all the first 10,000 posts but all attempts to post them here have resulted in timeouts and 404 errors.

Any way keep up the good work and I'll see you when I reach your future.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Fri May 03, 2013 5:36 am UTC

fhorn wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:
fhorn wrote:I feel like the golden retriever in the back of the family car, just hanging my head out the window, tongue flapping, enjoying the ride.

Until the moment you realize they are taking you to the butchery.


I think you mean...

Spoiler:
THE VET!


Oblivious golden remains oblivious.
but also prefers vet to whatever "butchery" is, even whilst oblivious
edit: is this because I offered to pill the cat?

/me hopes someone posts the Larson illustration of this
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Fri May 03, 2013 5:37 am UTC

Exodies wrote:Maybe we could understand the dialogue better if we examined how each piece changed our view of what was going on. This problem is a bit like trying to understand birdsong or a message from a distant Time. Where are the philologists when you need them?


"Later" and "Bye" first established a parameter of the medium - Megan and Cueball would be talking. So it wasn't just snapshots of time, it also had elaboration.
"Wanna swim?" let us know for sure that the location was what it looked like - a beach
"Pffthh *cough* You ok?" and "Just got some in my mouth" told us that it was salt water, so a sea or salty lake. Or some other kind of non-potable water.
"Any idea where the river is now?" Established that there were some off-scene elements, particularly a river. Some assumed at the time that meant that the body of water near the castles was a river, but it has since been revealed that's not the case.
"Still pretty far out" told us that the -now visibly rising- body of water on screen was probably not the river. Also, that they'd been watching the river for at least a week.
"I don't understand what the sea is doing" let us know that the flooding was an abnormal occurrence. Also, that they were somewhat clueless about their world
"I don't think we can build it much taller than this." and "It's been fun, though!" were catalysts for the Observation Tower era, as I recall. Hinting that the world has physical constraints and that Megan and Cueball are aware of them.
"Pfffth Pthuh!" and "I've had worse" reinforce the idea that it's definitely a non-tasty body of water, probably briny seawater.
"Guess one of us should climb down." was simply keeping up the flow of building, I think.
"The sea is rising." - their first non-sideways acknowledgement that the water level was indeed going up.
"Sea level rises and falls, right? It's changed before." and "Not this fast." are confirming again that it's an abnormal occurrence, adding specifically that the rise is extraordinarily quick.
"The river hasn't even reached the sea yet." is interesting. Apparently the river wasn't yet at the sea? Where was it going? I don't believe we have the answer to this question. Megan simply replies "The river is small. The sea is big." as if this was obvious, but points out that when it does reach the sea it wouldn't have much of an effect because of their relative sizes.
"How big?" and "I don't know" reinforcing that Megan and Cueball are somewhat ignorant of their world.
"Does it Rain on the Sea?" and "I don't know; if it does it seems like a waste." continue the guesswork at the rising water level, and indicate that weather patterns are fairly normal wherever they are, with rain at least on land. Also that whatever the rain was wouldn't have enough volume to cause a change in water level like the one they observe.
"It rains in the hills where the river comes from, right?" Interesting, because it tells us the river comes from the hills, which we haven't seen yet. Also showing that Megan and Cueball have some idea how the traversable parts of their world work - they know either from having been there or by word of mouth about the weather in the hills and have some idea how rivers form.
"Are there other rivers?" "I don't know." "There must be other rivers." Indicate this is the only river they know of. There might be other ones, and they think that there must be other ones for the sea level to be rising like this.
"Otherwise the sea would dry up." Either they're really clueless about how seas work, or its a small sea that is known to change drastically in water level according to rainfall (but not this quickly).
"Maybe it's coming out of the ground." "Does that happen?" "I don't know," this exchange indicates that Megan and Cueball don't know about springs or water tables, or aren't really sure, so they probably haven't seen any where they are. Which means either water table is pretty low most of the time, or don't get out much.
"I don't know how the sea works." "I don't know how anything works." Well, that pretty much cinches their ignorance of the natural world. The implications of this depend on who you ask. Are they children? (Not likely, unless LaPetite is an elf). Do they not get out much? This might just be a visit to the countryside/coastline, maybe they usually spend their time in the city away from the natural world. There's room for interpretation here as of now.
"I don't think it's going to stop." "The sea can't just make more of itself forever." "It can do whatever it wants. It's the sea. " Megan and Cueball see the sea as some kind of ineffable force. Clearly they are not exposed to or don't have the technology to make (properly sized) seawalls, dams, etc. Also, that they think the sea is making more of itself and not just moving around - so either they don't know about tides or tides aren't a factor.
"There must be a reason. There's a reason for everything." "Yeah." "But it's not always a good reason." They're scientifically minded, at least, if completely in the dark about what's happening. Their knowledge is unsatisfactory to them, this is probably the point where one or both decide they will venture back to the river to check on it.
"There must be other rivers." "Maybe something is wrong with them." Back to the other rivers - also setting up the recent "broken rivers" bit. How could a river be broken? Maybe it's dammed naturally or unnaturally, the source (mountain springs, lowlands springs, creeks, etc) has dried up, or have been redirected. Those would all stop the flow though. For there to be more flow, rivers would have to merge, there would have to be an unusual amount of rainfall in their watershed, or some kind of dam might have broken.

That coves the first few lines. I don't think I can comment on the latest ones as of yet, maybe I'll post again when we know more. Although all I'm really doing is summarizing the thread - we did a pretty good job of interpreting things the first time around.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby buffygirl » Fri May 03, 2013 5:41 am UTC

blindpost
Dog Dreams

Spoiler:
Me and Rex took the car, ha, ha, stay home, stay
We're gonna run over all the neighborhood cats
'Cause they tease us from the other side of the fence
We're gonna go in the swamp and you can't hose us off

Dog dreams, dog dreams
Please don't wake us up

No bad dog, no stay
No basement, no way
No choke chain, no dry food
No fetch game, no, no, no

No bad dog, no stay
No basement, no way
No choke chain, no dry food
No sit, lie down, roll over, shame

Me and Rex took the car, ha, ha, stay home, stay
We're gonna go through everyone's garbage
Have the dinners we deserve
We're gonna find some great smelling bitches

And see if they meant what they said from the end of the leash

Dog dreams, dog dreams
Please don't hose us off

No bad dog, no stay
No basement, no way
No choke chain, no dry food
No fetch game, no, no, no

No bad dog, no stay
No basement, no way
No choke chain, no dry food
No sit, lie down, roll over, shame

No bad dog, no stay
No basement, no way
No choke chain, no dry food
No fetch game, no, no, no

No bad dog, no stay
No basement, no way
No choke chain, no dry food
No sit, lie down, roll over, shame

Bad dog, bad dog
Bad dog, bad dog
Bad dog, bad dog
...
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AND
Over Oceans
Spoiler:
take me with you
I don’t care if I’m bored
leave behind those jagged plains
over oceans
I would follow you
just,

(jonatha)
say that you love me
I know you do
say it one more time
you know that I need you
I won’t deny
can’t believe you’re mine.
tell me
I am the one
tell me I’m the one.
tell me
I am the one.
tell me I’m the one…)

[Jennifer] tell me I am the one
tell me I’m the one.
tell I am the one
tell me I’m the one.
say you love me
I know you do
say it one more time.
you know I need you
I won’t deny
can’t believe your mine…]

when we get there
let’s take the sleeping train
Ireland, Italy and Spain
over oceans
I would follow you
just,

(jonatha)
say that you love me
I know you do
say it one more time
you know that I need you
I won’t deny
can’t believe you’re mine.
tell me
I am the one
tell me I’m the one.
{ From: http://www.elyrics.net }
tell me
I am the one.
tell me I’m the one…)

[Jennifer] tell me I am the one
tell me I’m the one.
tell I am the one
tell me I’m the one.
say you love me
I know you do
say it one more time.
you know I need you
I won’t deny
can’t believe you’re mine…]

I will love you
forever
a castle for two
we could even
stay right here but
over oceans
I would follow you.
just,

(jonatha)
say that you love me
I know you do
say it one more time
you know that I need you
I won’t deny
can’t believe you’re mine.
tell me
I am the one
tell me I’m the one.
tell me
I am the one.
tell me I’m the one…)

[Jennifer] tell me I am the one
tell me I’m the one.
tell I am the one
tell me I’m the one.
say you love me
I know you do
say it one more time.
you know I need you
I won’t deny
can’t believe you’re mine…]

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StratPlayer and JovialBard - you might like these...

Edit: Misc quotification and msg to StratPlayer and JovialBard
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Fri May 03, 2013 5:42 am UTC

AK49BWL wrote:WheredideveryonegONG..............?

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Cueball holds onto Megan's arm so that he doesn't fall in.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Fri May 03, 2013 5:44 am UTC

Are alligators more aggressive at night?

Edit: oops should have googled that first. I think it is evening, and they fear alligators.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mathrec » Fri May 03, 2013 5:50 am UTC

Exodies wrote:
Helper wrote:
Spoiler:
StratPlayer wrote:
fatness wrote:

Wait until the real googlebot gets wind of this...bits will fly!


Do you think one of the bots tried to escape from the collective???

If there's one escapee, there'll probably be more.
I wonder if anybody has ever setup a web forum along with a farm of AI chatterbots. It could probably pass the forum-Turing-test (a variant of the Turing test to differentiate between computers and forum-users, rather than human beings).

This is quite common in IRC. I had one which was an expertblabbermouth in advertising theory and maths. Called Chalkey.

At first I just laughed at the idea of a "forum-Turing-test". Then I thought...wait, is that a real thing? It seems like a forum-Turing-test would be easier for a bot to pass. There's more limited context and many posters are adopting a fairly narrow persona. Also, no one is expecting a bot to be participating in the forum (posting spam, maybe, but not participating).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Pikrass » Fri May 03, 2013 5:53 am UTC

AK49BWL wrote:unately it doesn't work for me in my current form, as I'm using a different forum theme and my time is set to m/d/Y H:i:s (U) and I don't really want to change it :oops: ... But nonetheless, awesome script :D

Support for other themes added in the TODO list.
Parser for other formats already in the TODO list.

Do you think that if I'm enhancing my script during my work time, justifying myself to my boss by explaining that "I'm doing it for Time", it'll be okay?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Fri May 03, 2013 5:56 am UTC

mathrec wrote:
Exodies wrote:
Helper wrote:
Spoiler:
StratPlayer wrote:
fatness wrote:

Wait until the real googlebot gets wind of this...bits will fly!


Do you think one of the bots tried to escape from the collective???

If there's one escapee, there'll probably be more.
I wonder if anybody has ever setup a web forum along with a farm of AI chatterbots. It could probably pass the forum-Turing-test (a variant of the Turing test to differentiate between computers and forum-users, rather than human beings).

This is quite common in IRC. I had one which was an expertblabbermouth in advertising theory and maths. Called Chalkey.

At first I just laughed at the idea of a "forum-Turing-test". Then I thought...wait, is that a real thing? It seems like a forum-Turing-test would be easier for a bot to pass. There's more limited context and many posters are adopting a fairly narrow persona. Also, no one is expecting a bot to be participating in the forum (posting spam, maybe, but not participating).


I was fooled by a bot at work for weeks. Months, maybe. It's especially easy when you accept that there are folks around conversing in a second language.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby PhoenixRising » Fri May 03, 2013 5:56 am UTC

More replies:
Spoiler:
rmsgrey wrote:
TheMinim wrote:
mscha wrote:Not Found

The requested post was not found in this forum.
_________________________________________________________

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...Am I the only one seeing this?

Look at his post count...


I don't see what you guys are talking about. :/ By the way, did you know the word gullible isn't in the dictionary? Fascinating, huh?

mk_chem wrote:randall-dammit, why are all my posts flagged as spam (ok, this is my second post, but still!)

i just tried to qoute AluisioASG's post about trying to view the difference images through stereoscopic glasses (tried it, doesn't look like much) and wrot one line as an answer... still spam.

is this normal, that users with low number of posts get EVERY message with any link inside marked as spam?

anyway, wanted to say how great the OTC, the OTT and the OTPOTOTC ("one true people of the one true comic") are!

greetings from germany.


Not marked as spam, it just got dropped into a moderation queue. It's standard practice for a user's first post to be put in the modqueue. But welcome!


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So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus


1) Where are M&C ?
b. The physics don't quite match earth's (in particular the sandcastle taking way, way too long to crumble at some points and falling apart with almost no encouragement at other points). But in general stuff is similar to earth.

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
b. Although I'm going to say almost normal since they've gotten into so many other adventures before Time. (I'm assuming the Randallverse characters maintain memories of past events, and further assuming the Megan and Cueball characters really are the same characters from comic to comic)

3) How many people in this world?
a. We've only seen a few people, but for that matter Megan and Cueball seem to be somewhere extremely isolated. I mean, if they were someplace with a lot of people they wouldn't be reduced to using a steam bag for water. There would be someplace they could get that water much more easily.

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
d. I'm going hammerspace. I seriously doubt someone left mini trebuchets lying around, but since this seems to be a fairly isolated spot I doubt there's an Ikea just off-screen. I guess they could've manufactured stuff from scratch, but if they're in such a predicament that they need a steam bag for water I hardly think making a tiny trebuchet would be a priority. (For that matter, I don't understand them making a castle at all under those circumstances. Unless the river was close enough for them to easily get at it, and therefore water was in plentiful supply until they left the castle?)

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
No.

5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
No. No sign of snow yet; I'm guessing they're in a desert/tropical environment, nowhere near the North Pole. Unless Santa randomly goes on vacation to the tropics.

6) What question should we ask to understand ?
What is It?


mathrec wrote:5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
Doubtful. The Randallverse hasn't featured Santa.


Actually, it did once. But Bill Gates killed him.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eternal Density » Fri May 03, 2013 5:56 am UTC

mathrec wrote:
Exodies wrote:
Helper wrote:
Spoiler:
StratPlayer wrote:
fatness wrote:

Wait until the real googlebot gets wind of this...bits will fly!


Do you think one of the bots tried to escape from the collective???

If there's one escapee, there'll probably be more.
I wonder if anybody has ever setup a web forum along with a farm of AI chatterbots. It could probably pass the forum-Turing-test (a variant of the Turing test to differentiate between computers and forum-users, rather than human beings).

This is quite common in IRC. I had one which was an expertblabbermouth in advertising theory and maths. Called Chalkey.

At first I just laughed at the idea of a "forum-Turing-test". Then I thought...wait, is that a real thing? It seems like a forum-Turing-test would be easier for a bot to pass. There's more limited context and many posters are adopting a fairly narrow persona. Also, no one is expecting a bot to be participating in the forum (posting spam, maybe, but not participating).
That reminds me of an xkcd
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Fri May 03, 2013 5:57 am UTC

lunarul wrote:
Pfhorrest wrote:It's totally understandable for a 30-day-old to have never seen a tide before, or not know how many rivers there are in the world.

I'm sure nobody really knows how many rivers there are in the world.

Well... WolframAlpha seems to know: Compute 'number of rivers'
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Fri May 03, 2013 6:00 am UTC

Sciscitor wrote:
lunarul wrote:
Pfhorrest wrote:It's totally understandable for a 30-day-old to have never seen a tide before, or not know how many rivers there are in the world.

I'm sure nobody really knows how many rivers there are in the world.

Well... WolframAlpha seems to know: Compute 'number of rivers'


Most common among 2 year olds. And a male name, surprisingly. The River is big - Meg's baby bump is growing? It could be a baby! Guys, maybe Randall is trying to tell us he's pregnant!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby buffygirl » Fri May 03, 2013 6:01 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby buffygirl » Fri May 03, 2013 6:03 am UTC

mathrec wrote:
Spoiler:
AluisioASG wrote:I want to sing this:


Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the sea and see

... (someone continue!)

I'm just a Cueball. I need no sympathy, because
I'm easy come, easy go. Little high little low.
Even if the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me...to me.

Megan. Just just slipped again.
Dropped my bottle, oh dear me.
Now it's floating out to sea.
And Megan. Our walk had just begun.
And now it floating all away.
Megan, ooo
Didn't mean to make you cry.
If we get back home again tomorrow
Carry on, carry on, as if nothing really matters.

Too late. Our Time has come
Sends shivers down my spine.
Ocean's rising all the time.
Goodbye to our castle - We've got to go.
Gotta leave it all behind and find the truth.
Megan, ooo (even if the wind blows)
I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all

I see a little sillouetto of a man
Trebuchet, trebuchet will it wreck the sand castle?
Scaffolding and rising
Very enterpising...we
build it higher, build it higher,
build it higher, build it higher,
build it higher...
(La Petite: "magnifico")

I'm just a poor boy, somebody tell me
He's just a poor boy, never seen reality
Show him some life past this monstrosity
Easy come easy go - will you let me go?
Oh Cueball, pack your bag and we will go. Time to go!
Oh cueball, pack your bag and we will go. Time to go!
It's time for us to go. Time to go!
Now it's time to go. Time to go!
Time for us to go - ooo
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go
Oh Megan whee-oh, Megan whee-oh, Megan whee-oh...we can go!
The rising sea is a riddle made for you and me
so we...
so we...

So you think we can roam free and wander outside?
So you think we can leave here and then become wise?
Oh baby - just come now with me baby
Just gotta get out - just gotta get right outta here

Ooh yeah, ooh yeah.
Nothing really matters
Anyone can see
Nothing really matter - nothing really matters to me
(Even if the wind blows)

OH NO YOU DI'IN!!!!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby buffygirl » Fri May 03, 2013 6:05 am UTC

ChronosDragon wrote:
Exodies wrote:Maybe we could understand the dialogue better if we examined how each piece changed our view of what was going on. This problem is a bit like trying to understand birdsong or a message from a distant Time. Where are the philologists when you need them?


Spoiler:
"Later" and "Bye" first established a parameter of the medium - Megan and Cueball would be talking. So it wasn't just snapshots of time, it also had elaboration.
"Wanna swim?" let us know for sure that the location was what it looked like - a beach
"Pffthh *cough* You ok?" and "Just got some in my mouth" told us that it was salt water, so a sea or salty lake. Or some other kind of non-potable water.
"Any idea where the river is now?" Established that there were some off-scene elements, particularly a river. Some assumed at the time that meant that the body of water near the castles was a river, but it has since been revealed that's not the case.
"Still pretty far out" told us that the -now visibly rising- body of water on screen was probably not the river. Also, that they'd been watching the river for at least a week.
"I don't understand what the sea is doing" let us know that the flooding was an abnormal occurrence. Also, that they were somewhat clueless about their world
"I don't think we can build it much taller than this." and "It's been fun, though!" were catalysts for the Observation Tower era, as I recall. Hinting that the world has physical constraints and that Megan and Cueball are aware of them.
"Pfffth Pthuh!" and "I've had worse" reinforce the idea that it's definitely a non-tasty body of water, probably briny seawater.
"Guess one of us should climb down." was simply keeping up the flow of building, I think.
"The sea is rising." - their first non-sideways acknowledgement that the water level was indeed going up.
"Sea level rises and falls, right? It's changed before." and "Not this fast." are confirming again that it's an abnormal occurrence, adding specifically that the rise is extraordinarily quick.
"The river hasn't even reached the sea yet." is interesting. Apparently the river wasn't yet at the sea? Where was it going? I don't believe we have the answer to this question. Megan simply replies "The river is small. The sea is big." as if this was obvious, but points out that when it does reach the sea it wouldn't have much of an effect because of their relative sizes.
"How big?" and "I don't know" reinforcing that Megan and Cueball are somewhat ignorant of their world.
"Does it Rain on the Sea?" and "I don't know; if it does it seems like a waste." continue the guesswork at the rising water level, and indicate that weather patterns are fairly normal wherever they are, with rain at least on land. Also that whatever the rain was wouldn't have enough volume to cause a change in water level like the one they observe.
"It rains in the hills where the river comes from, right?" Interesting, because it tells us the river comes from the hills, which we haven't seen yet. Also showing that Megan and Cueball have some idea how the traversable parts of their world work - they know either from having been there or by word of mouth about the weather in the hills and have some idea how rivers form.
"Are there other rivers?" "I don't know." "There must be other rivers." Indicate this is the only river they know of. There might be other ones, and they think that there must be other ones for the sea level to be rising like this.
"Otherwise the sea would dry up." Either they're really clueless about how seas work, or its a small sea that is known to change drastically in water level according to rainfall (but not this quickly).
"Maybe it's coming out of the ground." "Does that happen?" "I don't know," this exchange indicates that Megan and Cueball don't know about springs or water tables, or aren't really sure, so they probably haven't seen any where they are. Which means either water table is pretty low most of the time, or don't get out much.
"I don't know how the sea works." "I don't know how anything works." Well, that pretty much cinches their ignorance of the natural world. The implications of this depend on who you ask. Are they children? (Not likely, unless LaPetite is an elf). Do they not get out much? This might just be a visit to the countryside/coastline, maybe they usually spend their time in the city away from the natural world. There's room for interpretation here as of now.
"I don't think it's going to stop." "The sea can't just make more of itself forever." "It can do whatever it wants. It's the sea. " Megan and Cueball see the sea as some kind of ineffable force. Clearly they are not exposed to or don't have the technology to make (properly sized) seawalls, dams, etc. Also, that they think the sea is making more of itself and not just moving around - so either they don't know about tides or tides aren't a factor.
"There must be a reason. There's a reason for everything." "Yeah." "But it's not always a good reason." They're scientifically minded, at least, if completely in the dark about what's happening. Their knowledge is unsatisfactory to them, this is probably the point where one or both decide they will venture back to the river to check on it.
"There must be other rivers." "Maybe something is wrong with them." Back to the other rivers - also setting up the recent "broken rivers" bit. How could a river be broken? Maybe it's dammed naturally or unnaturally, the source (mountain springs, lowlands springs, creeks, etc) has dried up, or have been redirected. Those would all stop the flow though. For there to be more flow, rivers would have to merge, there would have to be an unusual amount of rainfall in their watershed, or some kind of dam might have broken.

That coves the first few lines. I don't think I can comment on the latest ones as of yet, maybe I'll post again when we know more. Although all I'm really doing is summarizing the thread - we did a pretty good job of interpreting things the first time around.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby KarMann » Fri May 03, 2013 6:07 am UTC

buffygirl wrote:
KarMann wrote:*said stuff*

I highly disapprove of all this self-habedashery and craziness. You might get hurt. Stop it right now.

"Stuff"? I don't have any idea what you're talking about. :P
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Fri May 03, 2013 6:07 am UTC

buffygirl wrote:
ChronosDragon wrote:
Exodies wrote:Maybe we could understand the dialogue better if we examined how each piece changed our view of what was going on. This problem is a bit like trying to understand birdsong or a message from a distant Time. Where are the philologists when you need them?


Spoiler:
"Later" and "Bye" first established a parameter of the medium - Megan and Cueball would be talking. So it wasn't just snapshots of time, it also had elaboration.
"Wanna swim?" let us know for sure that the location was what it looked like - a beach
"Pffthh *cough* You ok?" and "Just got some in my mouth" told us that it was salt water, so a sea or salty lake. Or some other kind of non-potable water.
"Any idea where the river is now?" Established that there were some off-scene elements, particularly a river. Some assumed at the time that meant that the body of water near the castles was a river, but it has since been revealed that's not the case.
"Still pretty far out" told us that the -now visibly rising- body of water on screen was probably not the river. Also, that they'd been watching the river for at least a week.
"I don't understand what the sea is doing" let us know that the flooding was an abnormal occurrence. Also, that they were somewhat clueless about their world
"I don't think we can build it much taller than this." and "It's been fun, though!" were catalysts for the Observation Tower era, as I recall. Hinting that the world has physical constraints and that Megan and Cueball are aware of them.
"Pfffth Pthuh!" and "I've had worse" reinforce the idea that it's definitely a non-tasty body of water, probably briny seawater.
"Guess one of us should climb down." was simply keeping up the flow of building, I think.
"The sea is rising." - their first non-sideways acknowledgement that the water level was indeed going up.
"Sea level rises and falls, right? It's changed before." and "Not this fast." are confirming again that it's an abnormal occurrence, adding specifically that the rise is extraordinarily quick.
"The river hasn't even reached the sea yet." is interesting. Apparently the river wasn't yet at the sea? Where was it going? I don't believe we have the answer to this question. Megan simply replies "The river is small. The sea is big." as if this was obvious, but points out that when it does reach the sea it wouldn't have much of an effect because of their relative sizes.
"How big?" and "I don't know" reinforcing that Megan and Cueball are somewhat ignorant of their world.
"Does it Rain on the Sea?" and "I don't know; if it does it seems like a waste." continue the guesswork at the rising water level, and indicate that weather patterns are fairly normal wherever they are, with rain at least on land. Also that whatever the rain was wouldn't have enough volume to cause a change in water level like the one they observe.
"It rains in the hills where the river comes from, right?" Interesting, because it tells us the river comes from the hills, which we haven't seen yet. Also showing that Megan and Cueball have some idea how the traversable parts of their world work - they know either from having been there or by word of mouth about the weather in the hills and have some idea how rivers form.
"Are there other rivers?" "I don't know." "There must be other rivers." Indicate this is the only river they know of. There might be other ones, and they think that there must be other ones for the sea level to be rising like this.
"Otherwise the sea would dry up." Either they're really clueless about how seas work, or its a small sea that is known to change drastically in water level according to rainfall (but not this quickly).
"Maybe it's coming out of the ground." "Does that happen?" "I don't know," this exchange indicates that Megan and Cueball don't know about springs or water tables, or aren't really sure, so they probably haven't seen any where they are. Which means either water table is pretty low most of the time, or don't get out much.
"I don't know how the sea works." "I don't know how anything works." Well, that pretty much cinches their ignorance of the natural world. The implications of this depend on who you ask. Are they children? (Not likely, unless LaPetite is an elf). Do they not get out much? This might just be a visit to the countryside/coastline, maybe they usually spend their time in the city away from the natural world. There's room for interpretation here as of now.
"I don't think it's going to stop." "The sea can't just make more of itself forever." "It can do whatever it wants. It's the sea. " Megan and Cueball see the sea as some kind of ineffable force. Clearly they are not exposed to or don't have the technology to make (properly sized) seawalls, dams, etc. Also, that they think the sea is making more of itself and not just moving around - so either they don't know about tides or tides aren't a factor.
"There must be a reason. There's a reason for everything." "Yeah." "But it's not always a good reason." They're scientifically minded, at least, if completely in the dark about what's happening. Their knowledge is unsatisfactory to them, this is probably the point where one or both decide they will venture back to the river to check on it.
"There must be other rivers." "Maybe something is wrong with them." Back to the other rivers - also setting up the recent "broken rivers" bit. How could a river be broken? Maybe it's dammed naturally or unnaturally, the source (mountain springs, lowlands springs, creeks, etc) has dried up, or have been redirected. Those would all stop the flow though. For there to be more flow, rivers would have to merge, there would have to be an unusual amount of rainfall in their watershed, or some kind of dam might have broken.

That coves the first few lines. I don't think I can comment on the latest ones as of yet, maybe I'll post again when we know more. Although all I'm really doing is summarizing the thread - we did a pretty good job of interpreting things the first time around.

I'm sorry! I love you but .... my ADD won't allow me to actually focus and read this .... I'm sure it's awesome though!


tl;dr: this thread. Well, I suppose if you haven't read the thread, that's a bit longer of a read. But I know you have :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Fri May 03, 2013 6:09 am UTC

512th page party time?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby pablithemantis » Fri May 03, 2013 6:10 am UTC

ucim wrote:
ChronosDragon wrote:Well, you could use the original Latin - id est
Is the Chevette of browsers even available in Latin? Would it translate all the newpix into that ancient tongue? Would I be greeted each morning with "Error occurrit. Vis dicam Microsoft circa hoc?"

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I've been wondering how long I'd keep from registering in the forum, and of course it'd be this comment that does it. The moment you bring up an incorrect latin translation of an error message into an XKCD thread, my fate is sealed.

error occuravit. volasne dicere microsofti huius?
(An error has occurred. do you want to tell Microsoft of this?)

missionem proficiebam.

In other news, hello all. Good work on making the accompanying thread for this insane comic more maddening than the comic itself.

Has anyone yet brought up the fact that Randall dramatically reeled us in to the storyline by keeping the characters silent for the majority of the animation, and then suddenly creating an increasingly complicated plot a few hundred frames in? Very clever, that Mr. Munroe.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby buffygirl » Fri May 03, 2013 6:10 am UTC

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