1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Quilbert » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:41 pm UTC

This might have been done before (I’m just a lurker, you see), but here’s my analysis of the night sky. I’m pretty sure this is the distant future on Earth. This is why:

I noticed three weird things: ε Sco is in a strange place, some stars go down at the same spot although they have different declinations (for the calculation I took ι Ari, 88 Aqr, and θ Sco, all going down near the tree’s trunk), and Antares is missing altogether. GLR certainly does such things on purpose …

From ε Sco’s movement, I estimated (very roughly) that this must be about 15000 years in the future. Then I took the positions of the stars mentioned above and calculated the rotational axis. It is very different from ours. As polar star I get Vega, more or less. At first, I thought about Mars, but it didn’t fit and I got an axial tilt of 22°, just in the wrong direction for current Earth. Luckily, the rotational axis precesses. From all the data, my best estimate for now is that this is 11400 years in the future. Of course, the methods used are error-prone, and I haven’t calculated the errors. The most reliable number we would probably get by taking the planets into account.

From the angle of the stars going down, I get a latitude of roughly 37°N. Now this all makes sense in a way. Baobab trees must have spread to places outside Madagascar. This could be the south coast of Portugal, for example. Antares has probably gone supernova (it is already a red supergiant). And then there must be some post-apocalyptic thing going on, with the Sea tasting bad, people living in tents and lacking formal education …

So long, finally time to coma.

ETA: Oh, I ended up being the page pope. Well, let there be quotes from the classical age! Alternatively, Futurama. ;)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:43 pm UTC

spamjam wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:I have returned home from the gym after work and I rather expected to see a few more newpages. Alas, the one I left has hardly progressed. Of course, one can't be expected to analysis a sunrise, so I suppose the sudden drop in banter is to be expected until Cueball is once again awake and Cuegan are on their way.

Especially analyzing a sunrise when we're looking west--not much to go on. I'm still bothered by why the western sky brightened from the horizon up during sunrise. What's up with that (WTC?)? Couple of others have noticed as well, but nobody has any reason why. Another example of GLR's will?


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TimeLurker » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:52 pm UTC

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ggh wrote:Quiet is good. What if the OTC is GLR's way of winning a bet that he could make a comic that incited a thousand-page forum discussion? Maybe by posting, we're hastening the end of Time.

So by lurking I help preserve Time? Excell... Oops.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Case » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:53 pm UTC

spamjam wrote:I'm still bothered by why the western sky brightened from the horizon up during sunrise. What's up with that (WTC?)? Couple of others have noticed as well, but nobody has any reason why. Another example of GLR's will?


Well, while I'm pretty sure I wouldn't make Occam very happy with this and the real reason is much more simple, there's always a thing called airglow, which makes the sky at night slightly brighter near the horizon. Well, at least when there's no light pollution near the horizon, since the airglow is quite faint. Not sure how it is with airglow and sunrise, though.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:57 pm UTC

Just quoting my own post, which apparently was missed by some of you...
mscha wrote:It's funny, though, that it's lighter at the (western) horizon than higher up in the sky. Sure, there's more atmospheric refraction (of twilight and/or light of the full moon which might be slightly to our left), but does that really make such a difference? Or is there some piece of civilization left, a city with bright lights in the distance, that causes atmospheric pollution?


ETA: Case's airglow is a more coherent explanation. Thanks!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby StormAngel » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:01 am UTC

The Outside has kept me away for the last several days; I just stopped by to check whether the lightening has started yet or the dark knight was still going onG.

It seems fitting that I just happen to be listening to this:
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Its All Related!

The actual cover has some stars in the sky that are missing± from this pic - or my glasses need cleaning.


The Ascii art was pretty neat, so here's some of my own:
Its pretty basic, but it'd look good stitched onto a pillow or something

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:06 am UTC

Not wakONG up...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Marsh'n » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:09 am UTC

yappobiscuits wrote:"Dreaming Light" - Anathema
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Suddenly... life has new meaning
Suddenly... feeling is being

And you shine inside
And love stills my mind like the sunrise
Dreaming light of the sunrise

Suddenly... I don't have to be afraid
Suddenly... All falls into place

And you shine inside
And love stills my mind like the sunrise
Dreaming light of the sunrise
Dreaming light and you shine inside
And love stills my mind like the sunrise
Dreaming light of the sunrise

I feel you but I don't really know you
I dreamed of you from the moment I saw you
And I've seen the sunrise in your eyes
The sky... the sea... the light

Live your dream beneath the northern horizon
Be at peace, set your heart in flight again
The light is truth...
The light is you...


Yappo, that was really nice! I also like how the corresponding video brought in sand, and the ocean, and a river2, and treesε, and trees7, and two people walking along together with their bags. Pretty thorough...

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Postby AluisioASG » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:12 am UTC

, charlie_grumbles.

Marsh'n wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:MY SWORD!

Oops! That's what I get for not being a proper blitzer, is I don't know who these belong to. I just saw taixzo use it and immediately saw how it would fit the avatar! Apologies for the "theft"!


Per #1228, no problem.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby CasCat » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:15 am UTC

WOnder93 wrote:Hello everyone!

I have finally registered to let you know that I, following the trail of BlitzGirl - the first blitzer, am also reading this thread from the beginning, hoping to catch up to the present one day. I have been blitzing in silence until now, but I thought I should finally de-lurk and post my progress...

Current progress: 519/982 pages

I have been a follower of the XKCD comics for a long time but at the time Great Randall unveiled the One True Comic the Outside must have clouded my mind causing me to overlook the fact that it changes over time. I was only taken out of the darkness by a post on Slashdot somewhere around newpix 1100. That day newpix I discovered the awesomeness of the OTC and OTT and I was amazed by the friendly community here. I didn't think I could read the whole thread but after reading about BlitzGirl in the wiki I decided to give it a try. I will forever regret my absent-mindedness at the time I first saw the One True Comic... but I must not despair! I shall continue to read the One True Thread with patience and eventually join y'all waiting in the Present!

Onward!


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby pha » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:22 am UTC

Quilbert wrote:From ε Sco’s movement, I estimated (very roughly) that this must be about 15000 years in the future. Then I took the positions of the stars mentioned above and calculated the rotational axis. It is very different from ours. As polar star I get Vega, more or less. (...)


Looks like you are roughly in line with other high priests' conclusions

I cannot say if I am more fascinated by the OTC or the OTT... Where else on Earth could you find a comic with meaningful stars and forum comments with this sort of analysis? :shock:

Now, time to retreat to my lurking lair.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby spamjam » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:23 am UTC

mscha wrote:Just quoting my own post, which apparently was missed by some of you...
mscha wrote:It's funny, though, that it's lighter at the (western) horizon than higher up in the sky. Sure, there's more atmospheric refraction (of twilight and/or light of the full moon which might be slightly to our left), but does that really make such a difference? Or is there some piece of civilization left, a city with bright lights in the distance, that causes atmospheric pollution?


ETA: Case's airglow is a more coherent explanation. Thanks!

I'd expect to see the earth's shadow and maybe the Belt of Venus, such as this:
setting full moon

But maybe the shadow is below/behind the hill they're on--we're not seeing the actual horizon.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AnotherKevin » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:28 am UTC

The raptorcat (meowlpy?) attack on Megan could have led to thoughts of Virgil:

Sternitur infelix alieno vulnere, coelumque
Adspicit et moriens dulces reminiseitur Argos.- Virgil.

She dies, unfortunate one, by a wound that was meant for another:
Up to the heavens she gazes, and dying, remembers sweet Argos.

Except that I have no idea why Megan would remember Argos.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HereBeUnmappedBits » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:41 am UTC

TimeLurker wrote:
HereBeUnmappedBits wrote:
ggh wrote:Quiet is good. What if the OTC is GLR's way of winning a bet that he could make a comic that incited a thousand-page forum discussion? Maybe by posting, we're hastening the end of Time.

So by lurking I help preserve Time? Excell... Oops.

Yoy may be preserving Time, but the Wait in the OTT is better when everyone contributes. Even Especially if it just accelarates us to the end!!
Spoiler:
Wait for it.


I suppose I can contribute a song then.

Chirp
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(Da-da-de-de-da-da. Da-da-de-de-da)
(Da-da-de-de-da-da. Da-da-de-de-da)
(Da-da-de-de-da-da. Da-da-de-de-da)
(Da-da-de-de-da-da. Da-da-de-de-da)
(Ba-baaaaaa-bum. Ba-baaaaaaa-bum)
(Ba-baaaaaaa-bum)
(Da-da-da-da-dun)
Chirp
(Da-da-de-de-da-da. Da-da-de-de-da)
(Da-da-de-de-da-da. Da-da-de-de-da)
(Hard to onomatopoeia saxophone solo)
(Ba-baaaaaa-bum. Ba-baaaaaaa-bum)
(Ba-baaaaaaa-bum)
(Da-da-da-da-dun)
Chirp
(Da-da-de-de-da-da. Da-da-de-de-da)
(Da-da-de-de-da-da. Da-da-de-de-da)
(Dun-dun-dun. Duntdundundun)
(Dun-dun-dun. Duntdundundun)
(Dun-dun-dun. Duntdundundun)
(Clap-dun-clap-dun-clap-dun. Duntdundundun)
(Clap-dun-clap-dun-clap-dun. Duntdundundun)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:56 am UTC

Inspired by HereBeUnmappedBits, an ottification of this song...
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Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.

Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chiiirp. Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp.
Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chiiirp. Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp chiiirp, chirp chirp chirp chiiirp.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:06 am UTC

mscha wrote:Inspired by HereBeUnmappedBits, an ottification of this song...
Spoiler:
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.

Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chiiirp. Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp.
Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chiiirp. Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp chiiirp, chirp chirp chirp chiiirp.

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And crows don't murder <snip>
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rmcurtis » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:09 am UTC

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How much longer will Megan let Cue sleep?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:11 am UTC

mscha wrote:Next newpix will most likely have a pure #ffffff sky again.

Or not.
The top 15% or so of the frame is still #fefefe.

Edit to fix color, thanks rmcurtis!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rmcurtis » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:15 am UTC

mscha wrote:
mscha wrote:Next newpix will most likely have a pure #ffffff sky again.

Or not.
The top 15% or so of the frame is still #fffffe.


Did you mean #fefefe, or does it actually have a super slight yellow tint to it?

ETA: It looks like it's #fefefe, since it's a grayscale image.

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Notes from a long journey

Postby CameronCat » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:29 am UTC

Whew! I leap into the Outside for 4 dix and come back to >25 NP. I must say that as much as I enjoyed what we were doing, I would occasionally wonder what our little friends were up to. Quite the Ketchup, and that brings up a question for the Elders:

Eminences: at what point does a long ketchup become a mini-blitz? Would it be a petit-blitz? A ketchup-majeur? A ketchz? A blitzup? I beseech you who plot celestial motion and wear fine hats to favor your humble servants with explanations that we might see ourselves in the pantheon of the exalted questers.

Some other notes from the road:

@Rule110: your Vincent adaptation may have been your best work yet. Upon my return, I immediately stopped in the Chapel near the Aubron Wood and as I was watching the Milky Way move across the sky, that song immediately came to mind. I commend your work; your phrasing, word selection and meter is phenomenal. You have a poet's heart.

@Ebonite; we understand that events may prevent your presence here in the Tabernacle of the OTT. Our collective strength and prayers go with you on your journey. Stop back and say Hi once in a while, OK?

Details: There was some discussion back on the trail of the increasing detail in the artwork. The comments made me realize that there is a high but subtle degree of art skill throughout the story. There is a spare elegance in each frame that tells us what we need to know. (One example: go back and look at the artistic curves of the beesnake trails in the earlier frames.)
I think this is part of what keeps many of us coming back; the story is fun to look at and very well drawn.

Re: the time of Time: As an avowed Metaphorist, I believe that GLR is taking us along on a journey in his life. Since he is not likely to anticipate his future 11,000 years from now I cannot subscribe the idea that the stars are showing us that time period. Perhaps GLR chose that sky simply because it was 1) pretty or 2) far enough off that he didn't think the congregation could figure it out or 3) he is definitely messing with us. No's 2 and 3 seem most likely.

I congratulate those who have achieved milestone posting numbers, often in four digits here alone. I find your successes rather amazing, as I have added up my total posts in the four fora I participate in and they do not total 1000 in over 3 years. Guess I don't have a lot to say.

It has been a long journey todix, but good to be back. But another four days Outside is looming, so I'll have to do it all over again in a wix.

*sighs*
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby macraw83 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:49 am UTC

Blitz progress: 706 of 986
Keep ONG Keeping ONG, np 1581

I appear to only be 30ish pages behind Flado, which is somewhat encouraging, knowing that we're Blitzing so close together now.

Also, minor format change, due to Rule 110's sigcouragement asking for NewPage numbers.

Some postcouragement from lmjb1964 on NP 704 :)

@Any/Everyone (Red Hal quoted, CatHectic mentioned), RE: Time Travel Mix (NP 702):
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Red Hal wrote:Also, if anyone's making a mix, can I request that this be added?
I believe CatHectic was maintaining the Time Travel Mix on Spotify, which is essentially a playlist containing most of the music either linked to, mentioned, or parodied in some form. I'm not sure if xey is still active or not.

Also, during my travels, I found two songs not on the Wiki or the Time Travel Mix on Spotify and pointed them out in this signpost over a mip ago now. I have also been listening to a bunch of instrumental stuff, going through various video game and movie soundtracks, and stumbled upon Connected, by Hoobastank, which fits StratPlayer's ridiculous connection chains (such as what's in the next spoiler) somewhat well.

@StratPlayer, RE: Connections (NP 703):
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Dracomax wrote:Another song brought on by molp-speration

The Molpy Connection
<awesomeparodysnip>

Not entirely happy with the meter, but it works well enough, I guess.

I miss Jim Henson.


Really nice! I like this!

Oh, and "The Molpy Connection?" It's this:

1. Dracomax wrote the great song parody "The Molpy Connection"

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21. Dracomax wrote the great song parody "The Molpy Connection"

EDITED for spelling and to correct a mistype of "WWII" as "WWI".
EDITED again to spolier for length...
Mostly included because of contents of first spoiler, but also want to say that this is brilliant, like most of your similar posts. Still don't know how you do them.

@HAL9000, RE: Angels (NP 703):
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kenmelken wrote:
Rule110 wrote:<snip very coherent quote regarding interstitialism>


I agree with the cautionary thinking Rule110 has brought up here whole-heartedly. I think it is safe to assume that we are being adequately informed of the plot along the way and that nothing MAJOR happens between the views we are given, though clearly things do transpire. They aren't merely teleporting from place to place along the path.

You never know. They might be like these things, except their limit is they can only move for one second out of every hour...
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CameronCat wrote:Eminences: at what point does a long ketchup become a mini-blitz?

If P≠NP (where P is the Present and NP you), you can never really be in the Present.
Otherwise, if P=NP, every post is a portal to the Present.
There is no such thing as NP++.
I hope this answers your question.

Hmm.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:03 am UTC

#ffffffONG...
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After 142 newpix with greyscales, we finally have an all-#ffffff sky again.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:08 am UTC

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Mini-ketchup

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My first thought there was the Golden Helmet of Membrino. Alas, it was the wrong color, but perhaps... are you the Golden Dragon of Membrino?
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Not the golden helmet of Membrino, as such. But maybe I'll find that in my future travels, some day.

MattTheTubaGuy wrote:It is possible to view the night sky from Mars in Stellarium, the only problem is the time is still Earth hours/days/year etc, which makes searching year to year REALLY hard!
The positions of Venus and Jupiter are almost too perfect for it to be anything else though.
The final confirmation will be the nearly full moon coming into the bottom left of the sky in the next couple of frames.
EDIT: actually after checking again, it seems that the moon WON'T end up in the frame. :x


I checked out Stellarium yesterday after doing my somewhat lengthy ketchup - and all I can say is, I'm amazed even with such a complex tool that you can pin down the date so well. Again, I am in awe of the astronomical ability attributed to the accomplished affiliates of this assembly.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kazza3 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:09 am UTC

My eyes! The comic, it's so bright!

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Major #ffffffong?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:16 am UTC

CameronCat wrote:Whew! I leap into the Outside for 4 dix and come back to >25 NP. I must say that as much as I enjoyed what we were doing, I would occasionally wonder what our little friends were up to. Quite the Ketchup, and that brings up a question for the Elders:

Eminences: at what point does a long ketchup become a mini-blitz? Would it be a petit-blitz? A ketchup-majeur? A ketchz? A blitzup? I beseech you who plot celestial motion and wear fine hats to favor your humble servants with explanations that we might see ourselves in the pantheon of the exalted questers.
Spoiler:
Some other notes from the road:

@110Rules: your Vincent adaptation may have been your best work yet. Upon my return, I immediately stopped in the Chapel near the Aubron Wood and as I was watching the Milky Way move across the sky, that song immediately came to mind. I commend your work; your phrasing, word selection and meter is phenomenal. You have a poet's heart.

@Ebonite; we understand that events may prevent your presence here in the Tabernacle of the OTT. Our collective strength and prayers go with you on your journey. Stop back and say Hi once in a while, OK?

Details: There was some discussion back on the trail of the increasing detail in the artwork. The comments made me realize that there is a high but subtle degree of art skill throughout the story. There is a spare elegance in each frame that tells us what we need to know. (One example: go back and look at the artistic curves of the beesnake trails in the earlier frames.)
I think this is part of what keeps many of us coming back; the story is fun to look at and very well drawn.

Re: the time of Time: As an avowed Metaphorist, I believe that GLR is taking us along on a journey in his life. Since he is not likely to anticipate his future 11,000 years from now I cannot subscribe the idea that the stars are showing us that time period. Perhaps GLR chose that sky simply because it was 1) pretty or 2) far enough off that he didn't think the congregation could figure it out or 3) he is definitely messing with us. No's 2 and 3 seem most likely.

I congratulate those who have achieved milestone posting numbers, often in four digits here alone. I find your successes rather amazing, as I have added up my total posts in the four fora I participate in and they do not total 1000 in over 3 years. Guess I don't have a lot to say.

It has been a long journey todix, but good to be back. But another four days Outside is looming, so I'll have to do it all over again in a wix.

*sighs*


Hm. I do not know if we've ever discussed the idea of rigidly defining blitzes and such. Ketchup can refer to such ketchuping of any length, so long as it implies coming from the past to join the present. To me, that usually implies a handful of newpages, up to a dozen or so. A ketchup (and again this is my opinion) does not necessarily imply a rapid succession of replies that are included with the ketchup post. One may post a ketchup post, simply announcing that they are now in the present and, more importantly, have read what was missed and are up to date with current topics and discussions.

However, a mini-blitz may be a ketchup post that includes successive replies to past posts read on the way to the present. I generally understand it that a blitz includes posting, in one post, several replies that are warranted based on ones journey through the OTT, from the past to present. Coming back from 25+ newpages, I would consider your ketchup post a blitz.

True blitzes, however, are much longer and often include interspersed sign posts, like a series of mini-blitz ketchup posts culminating in a total blitz over many pages (though I do not know where I would draw the line as to a page count that denotes a blitz). And of course, we also have our mega-blitzers, as I call them, blasting through the past over several hundred newpages.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:26 am UTC

k.bookbinder wrote:Hm. I do not know if we've ever discussed the idea of rigidly defining blitzes and such. Ketchup can refer to such ketchuping of any length, so long as it implies coming from the past to join the present. To me, that usually implies a handful of newpages, up to a dozen or so. A ketchup (and again this is my opinion) does not necessarily imply a rapid succession of replies that are included with the ketchup post. One may post a ketchup post, simply announcing that they are now in the present and, more importantly, have read what was missed and are up to date with current topics and discussions.

However, a mini-blitz may be a ketchup post that includes successive replies to past posts read on the way to the present. I generally understand it that a blitz includes posting, in one post, several replies that are warranted based on ones journey through the OTT, from the past to present. Coming back from 25+ newpages, I would consider your ketchup post a blitz.

True blitzes, however, are much longer and often include interspersed sign posts, like a series of mini-blitz ketchup posts culminating in a total blitz over many pages (though I do not know where I would draw the line as to a page count that denotes a blitz). And of course, we also have our mega-blitzers, as I call them, blasting through the past over several hundred newpages.

Just my thoughts, it's a ketchup if you've been in the present, and can get back to the present all at once. And its a blitz if you've either never been to the present, or you've been there, but now can't get back to it before the Outside interferes again.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:27 am UTC

Quilbert wrote:This might have been done before (I’m just a lurker, you see), but here’s my analysis of the night sky. I’m pretty sure this is the distant future on Earth. This is why:
<snip>
As polar star I get Vega, more or less.

Well Vega as the North Star makes perfect sense for the future, due to the Earth's wobble, but it isn't predicted to be the North Star until 13,727.

Thanks for delurking, Quilbert! I love that the astronomy has brought so many people out of the woodworks. :D

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:31 am UTC

Valarya wrote:
mscha wrote:Not wakONG up...
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I thought she was going to take a dilgunnerang drink..

I thought, back then, that Megan was unsuccessfully poking Cueball to wake him up, but you're probably right.

And now it's time for me to do a Cueball... Image
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:51 am UTC

Say, is whoever was keeping this map still around? I can't find any way to iconify it from that page, and it would be hell to try and find somewhere in the past where it was bumped.

Maybe I'll put out a formal request: any Blitzer who comes across it, bump it, please. :D
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:58 am UTC

CameronCat wrote:Perhaps GLR chose that sky simply because it was 1) pretty or 2) far enough off that he didn't think the congregation could figure it out or 3) he is definitely messing with us. No's 2 and 3 seem most likely.
1: that sky is definitely pretty, but so are many other skies. The night sky itself is pretty.

2: No way. GLR, the OTA, knows his audience. To underestimate Him is heresy, likewise to imply that He would underestimate us is also heresy. I pray that we live up to His expectations.

3: Maybe. But it sounds more like a cop-out than a real reason. See #2.

CameronCat wrote:Eminences: at what point does a long ketchup become a mini-blitz? Would it be a petit-blitz? A ketchup-majeur? A ketchz? A blitzup? I beseech you who plot celestial motion and wear fine hats to favor your humble servants with explanations that we might see ourselves in the pantheon of the exalted questers.
That indeed is a good question, whose answer is both simple and sublime. There is of course a continuum with a lot of overlap, and the usage of the words has also overlapped. The canonical Blitz (which is not the only kind which qualifies) is one where a new poster discovers the OTT and, after poking around in it a bit, realizes that there is a Great Void in their soul which can only be filled by drinking fully from the River of Time, so as to experience Time in its own time. This involves forsaking the present, and going back to the beginning of Time, reading it all, and in so doing, filling their very essence with Time.

One can have The Epiphany at any time. Even those who have been faithful followers of Time since the Beginning of Time but have sinned by skipping ahead can be overcome with the emptiness of not knowing All of Time. In some cases, when the void is of Great Extent, this can also become a Holy BlitzQuest. If the void is small, or the time is quite near the present, then it is more properly one of the Condiments.

Condiments are also Holy Sacraments; due to the nature of Time they are performed quite commonly and are a normal part of a Timewaiter's dix. Condiments are still condiments even if they are not complete, but for a true Blitz one must partake Fully in the One True Thread. Some Blitzers leave Gospel, some do not. Gospel is not a defined or required part of Blitzing.

A BlitzQuest is an extraordinary event. It changes one's entire being. It purifies, it exalts, it brings one into harmony with the One True Comic, and its harmonics as revealed in the One True Thread.

So, whether something is a BlitzQuest cannot be judged from the outside. Is really up to the one partaking of the Sacrament. But howsoever you travel the River of Time, you do so with the blessing of all who have gone before you and all who will follow after you.

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Postby mscha » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:10 am UTC

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Postby HES » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:34 am UTC

mscha wrote:WOOONGS...
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Clearly a boring frame with this many people online and not a single thing to say... Wake up, Cueball! Get a Randamn move on!
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Postby xpatiate » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:37 am UTC

Morning everybody! It is a bit of a shame that we didn't get to appreciate the sunrise, but viewing it in geekwagon with the previous frame difference set is still pretty magical.

CameronCat wrote:Details: There was some discussion back on the trail of the increasing detail in the artwork. The comments made me realize that there is a high but subtle degree of art skill throughout the story. There is a spare elegance in each frame that tells us what we need to know. (One example: go back and look at the artistic curves of the beesnake trails in the earlier frames.)
I think this is part of what keeps many of us coming back; the story is fun to look at and very well drawn.


I agree, things are just getting more and more beautiful. If this keeps going we might all completely lose the ability to function and just become transfixed in front of our screens. Oh, wait...

The increasing level of detail and naturalism really became clear for me at the squirpy tree, when the view zoomed in on low-res stick-figure Megan in a beautiful, detailed silhouette landscape:

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If I might indulge in a little shameless past-post-plundering (should there be a name for that?), it did remind me of something...

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Postby BlitzGirl » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:46 am UTC

Some ketchup: I tend to agree with SBN's position that ketchup occurs when an OTTer is very close to the Now, and a full-on blitz is usually longer. However, I view both as a form of blitzing, that is, attempting to read it all. The definitions are rather fluid, but it doesn't seem to matter, as we can usually tell what is meant when one term or the other is used. :)

AluisioASG wrote:
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ucim wrote:Oh, right. Get all weepy-eyed over a dumb old rock in the sky, but wish keyboards all over Cueball just for the lulz.

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D'awww! That reminds me of my favorite World of Warcraft quest. As your character completes it, they are covered with adorable but very bitey baby raptors of the "prehistoric and portrayed as scaley" variety.

Do you have a tumblr? I'd like to see any other adorable stuff you draw.

I have to second that request. I myself (this sounds so wrong...) got an account last week just to get another chance at a contest. I may be posting some Time-related stuff (textual, not visual) there too.

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This is foreverbeautiful.

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spamjam wrote:
k.bookbinder wrote:I have returned home from the gym after work and I rather expected to see a few more newpages. Alas, the one I left has hardly progressed. Of course, one can't be expected to analysis a sunrise, so I suppose the sudden drop in banter is to be expected until Cueball is once again awake and Cuegan are on their way.

Especially analyzing a sunrise when we're looking west--not much to go on. I'm still bothered by why the western sky brightened from the horizon up during sunrise. What's up with that (WTC?)? Couple of others have noticed as well, but nobody has any reason why. Another example of GLR's will?
Are you suggesting GLR is like the Sea?

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mscha wrote:Inspired by HereBeUnmappedBits, an ottification of this song...
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Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.
Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp. Chirpy chirpy chirpy chirp, chirp chirp chirp chirp.

Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chiiirp. Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp.
Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chirp chiiirp, chiiirp. Chirp chirp chirp chiiirp chiiirp, chirp chirp chirp chiiirp.

(Repeat many, many, way too many times.)

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ChronosDragon wrote:Say, is whoever was keeping this map still around? I can't find any way to iconify it from that page, and it would be hell to try and find somewhere in the past where it was bumped.

Maybe I'll put out a formal request: any Blitzer who comes across it, bump it, please. :D

That was RobIrr keeping the map - he appeared in the first Boom de Yada.
I've actually bumped the map before, so it was easy to search my own posts and find it again. Here it is:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:50 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:52 am UTC

Ooh, pretty smiley!

I don't know how wizardy my searches are, because most often when I search the OTT I feel like this:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:54 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Ooh, pretty smiley!

It was just for you.

BlitzGirl wrote:I don't know how wizardy my searches are, because most often when I search the OTT I feel like this:
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Or like the PRIMER portion of this?
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