1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:08 pm UTC

Progressing alONG:

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What is your favorite newpix of Time so far?
Right now mine is 2232, the thwap-snarl frame, because of all of the action:
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Re: 1190: "Time" Tdf Update

Postby charlie_grumbles » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:20 pm UTC

The eighth stage of the Tour de France ended a while ago. here is an update. This was a very different sort of race, favoring a different kind of rider. The sprint specialists like Greipel have massive legs and broad shoulders, almost like weight lifters, but quicker and with better lungs. The climbers are thin, wiry, though often tall. After a long, relatively flat section, there were two massive climbs, won eventually by Chris Froome of team SKY who was second in last year's race overall. He takes the Yellow Jersey as well as the Polka Dots.

I'll spoiler much of this as a service to those who aren't so interested, as it is long. But, to answer SBN, I was a sport rider for about ten years starting in my late 20's, but never a racer. I'm basically a Puncheur (see wikipedia). Well, was - too old and heavy now. More recently I've done some touring between bed&breakfasts with about 50 mile days and light loads on the bike.
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Froome is a Brit, born in Nairobi. He was instrumental in making Bradley Wiggins last years overall winner and is now team leader in the TdF.

Today was a day for the Polka Dot Jersey (climbing) competition as well as the GC (Yellow Jersey). Four riders led out on the flat part of the race and got quite far ahead, but were brought back as soon as it headed uphill. The first climb was the big one (over 15 K uphill at 8%. This was a Hors Catégorie Climb. The other was Cat 1, a bit shorter, but also at 8%. There are five categories from 4 (easiest) to 1 (incredibly hard) plus Hors Catégorie = beyond classification. Points are awarded for several riders first to reach the tops, with the last climb of the day getting double points. Harder climbs get more points, of course. The one with the most points overall gets to wear the Polka Dots next day. Today the rider also had a polka dot painted bike, shoes, helmet, shorts. Don't know about other things. This is fairly common.

As is true in the Green Jersey competition, the points come with monetary awards as well for the first several riders. The money is normally shared out among team members, however, since you can't get there without your team.

These races are agonizingly difficult, even for a rider in the peleton. A moments's inattention can bring you down, as your wheel is only inches from someone else's. A second of resting can lose you your position. And you can't imagine what racing 15km uphill after 100 already done feels like. No, I can't either, though I've ridden up Cadillac Mountain in Maine a couple of times.

The peleton held together until the first climb and then broke up into individuals and small groups. When you go uphill (slooooowly) you aren't breaking wind, so having a big group isn't an advantage, but having a teammate is. Maybe he has water and you don't, or you just encourage each other. Or you may have to give up your bike to the leader if he has a flat.

Sagan collected a few more green jersey points at the intermediate sprint, but the bigger point totals were won by the breakaway, but they aren't really in the competition. Sagan is a pretty good overall rider, but finished the day in 123rd place over 29 minutes behind, with the other sprinters even worse. Yesterday's Yellow Jersey winner, Impey, was nearly 8 minutes down in 35th place for the day.

The favorites for the overall win include Froome, Alberto Contador, Cadel Evans, and Andy Schleck. All but Froome suffered a bit of time loss today, but not enough to end their chances.

Whereas yesterday ended with a dozen riders within 9 seconds (if I remember correctly), Froome has 51 seconds on second place Richie Porte (same team) and the top ten riders spread over just under 2 minutes. The last rider crossed the line almost 40 minutes after the leader.

One more rider Matteo Bono, dropped out today just as the road turned uphill.

Back in the old days of the tour, riders were responsible for their own repairs and typically carried several tires with them for on the road changes. No more. A team car follows the peleton with spares, including bikes, but especially wheels. In addition there are a few special "maintenance" wagons that follow along with spares if the team car isn't close by. When the peleton splits, however, help may be a ways away, hence teamwork. There is a medical car and the doctor sometimes does minor surgery on a rider riding next to him.

Tomorrows race, still in the Pyrenees is shorter (165.5km) but with five climbs, four of them category 1. The finish is a fast downhill for those who survive the hills. It starts at 11:30 (Continental). Monday is a rest day.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby marchlight » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:27 pm UTC

Papal decree: my favourite newpix so far, aside from the raptorcat attack
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It wasn't the happiest newpix, but it made me squeel involuntarily, and it took me seeing it on xkcd.com to accept it wasn't a fake. It was also the first frame that felt like traditional XKCD humour to me.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Earthling on Mars » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:29 pm UTC

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ucim wrote:
Act 1, scene 15


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at rise: the campsite of the Timewaiters. Flat ground, mountains in the background. Upstage, the front of BlitzGirl's large tent, draped with a pink feather boa. The (closed) entrance flap is large, in keeping with the tent. Outside the tent is a stand which holds a lance with a long banner on the end of it, a shield emblazoned with a symmetric serif cross, and a bright silver helmet adorned with a large pink flowing tuft that matches the boa decorating the tent. It is early evening.

BlitzGirl emerges from the tent, regally dressed in bright chain battle armor.
SONG: Onward!
(music to follow - I'm having some trouble with Rosegarden)
BlitzGirl wrote:The time has come, the waiting now is ending.
... Matters must be taken well in hand.
Molpy up my Knights Temporal
Fill the air with verses choral
Gird your loins! The battle's moral!

Onward, Onwards! Onward, molpy army! Come!
The Knights Temporal enter from both sides. They are each in festive armor with lance and shield similar to the ones in front of BlitzGirl's tent. As they sing the next verse, the Knights Temporal retrieve cages of molpies from BlitzGirl's tents and lay them out on the ground, readying them for release. They also bring out a desk and a swiveling desk chair, and set up a command post outside the tent, a bit stage left of center stage.
The Knights Temporal wrote:We come to you, apocalypse impending
... Ready now to follow your command.
Lead us on to greater glory
that our children tell the story
of the battle, grim and gory!

Onward, Onwards! Onward molpy army! Run!
BlitzGirl takes her place at the command post, standing in behind the desk.
The Knights Temporal wrote:By your command, from molpycats defending
... the very ground upon which we all stand
BlitzGirl wrote:Your devotion is outstanding
Give me action! I'm demanding!
The Knights Temporal wrote:with the storyline expanding, lead us...
BlitzGirl and The Knights Temporal wrote:Onward, Onwards! Onward molpy army!
BlitzGirl wrote:It's begun!


BlitzGirl sits in the swiveling desk chair and pushes off towards center stage, spinning in the chair as she does so.
Shouting as she spins in her chair, BlitzGirl wrote:Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!
On that command, the Knights Temporal release the cage latches, and the molpies all spring out.

curtain.

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From: producer@riverishTheaterByTheBig.org
to: director@ActsOfClerics.org
Subject: molpies
Whose chirping idea was it to use actual live rowrmolpies and compys and keyboards in your production???? I have seventeen audience members in the hospital, plus your music director, who bore the brunt of the... "activity", on stage left. Twenty four others will only talk to me through lawyers, and the press is wondering if this is the new "3D of theater".

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From: director@ActsOfClerics.org
To: producer@riverishTheaterByTheBig.org
Subject: RE: molpies
There's no such thing as bad publicity in show biz. Anyway, the scene just didn't work with stuffed animals on springs. What kind of crazy suggestion was that? it's supposed to be believable. And while I'm at it, why does the movie department get all the neat special effects, and we are stuck with imbeciles who can't tell the difference between a sound cue and a light cue? It was the end of the act - we have an entire intermission to clean up. Yes, it is too bad about the music director. I expect you are out finding another one for next week's performances?

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From: producer@riverishTheaterByTheBig.org
To: director@ActsOfClerics.org
Subject: RE: molpies

> It's supposed to be believable.


If you want believable, see attached. Those are the doctor bills so far. I thought you learned your lesson after the kettledrum incident. As for the music director, that will be a bit of a problem. The orchestra is demanding hazardous duty pay, and I'm having a hard time finding conductors that are also lion tamers. It's not a popular combination.

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From: stagemanager@ActsOfClerics.org
To: producer@riverishTheaterByTheBig.org
Subject: RE: molpies

> ...after the kettledrum incident

That's totally not fair. Our entire budget for sets was a hundred dollars. The script called for climbable trees, and you wouldn't shell out the money for anything more than cardboard and a tippy chair! A hundred dollars wouldn't even pay for the perrier they spill on the movie set over at MGM. Get some money from the motion picture division and apply it to the stage version, then we'll talk.

> ...finding conductors that are also lion tamers...
What's a "lion"?

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From: AOC@MolpyGoldwinMayor.com
To: stagemanager@ActsOfClerics.org
CC: producer@riverishTheaterByTheBig.org, staff@ActsOfClerics.org
Subject: RE: fwd: re: molpies

> A hundred dollars wouldn't even pay for the perrier they spill on the movie set.

What of it? What would you have us drink, tap water? This is the movies. Remember, when we do something on the film set, it's enshrined in celluloid for millions of people worldwide, not to mention the TV, DVD, and youtube rights. It has to envelop the viewer or it won't sell. No money, no movie. Your theater, if you don't mind my saying, holds a hundred people at a time. It's quaint, but hardly a megamoneymaker. There's just no comparison.

I've attached a bottle of Perrier. Have a party! (That is, if your staff can figure out how to open it!

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From: producer@riverishTheaterByTheBig.org
To: AOC@MolpyGoldwinMayor.com
Subject: can you read?
Quaint?? Have you ever been to a live theater? Or read a book?

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From: AOC@MolpyGoldwinMayor.com
To: research@MolpyGoldwinMayor.com
Subject: fwd: can you read:
What's a book?
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From: producer@ riverishTheaterByTheBig.org
To: AOC@ MolpyGoldwinMayor.com
Subject: can you read?
Quaint?? Have you ever been to a live theater? Or read a book?


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FROM: producer@rive
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Jose

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BlueCrab wrote:
foilman wrote:Need to do some climbONG soon...
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-snip-
And that spot of mustard beyond the really good molpy-crevice is bugging me :evil:

I don't think that's mustard; it appears to just be a gap in the rocks.

Cueball wrote:Right now you're pointing it at our home. Haven't you launched enough things at our castle?

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As others have said, I think Cueball is just teasing; he can't really see the castle from here.


For papal/momal decree: I think my favorite frame is 864:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:30 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Progressing alONG:
Optional decreeing:
What is your favorite newpix of Time so far?

2440c, Image won a close match against the trebuchet frames.
astrotter wrote:It is not particularly clear to me at this time that we are not overanalyzing this...

Randalspeed thunk, iskinner, and other blitzers! Notes from the before-was improve the after-when.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tman2nd » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:48 pm UTC

partingLance wrote:
jjjdavidson wrote:
Rule110 wrote:Maybe this place is like Myst Island. If they'd found the telescope buried under the sand castle near the hut, they could put it in the transit, then aim it at the coordinates carved in code on the baobab tree. That would give them a sight on a hidden button on a rock slope, that opens a chamber with a linking book in it.

As long as they don't see this:
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That game gave me the creeps...


Creepy, is right. I played that game (as well as the subsequent four), but never saw/found that little Easter egg, as the EW article calls it.

For sheer creepiness, though -- or an unnerving combination of creepiness and tedium -- nothing in the "official" games, for my money, rivalled the "Ages Beyond Myst" game (was the full title "Uru: Ages Beyond Myst"? I may have partly repressed the memory). Trudging around poorly-lit caverns in that ghastly underground city. I found that so unpleasant I eventually quit altogether; didn't even both looking online for hints.


When I played Myst as a child, I was very afraid of the brothers' rooms. Because of this, I would miss important things and had to use the strategy guide to beet the game.

My favorite frame would be #2226
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And another thing.
Last night I had a dream that Time had ended. I was so happy when I woke up and realized it hadn't.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:53 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:What is your favorite newpix of Time so far?

Hmmm. Someone asked for it so this one :twisted:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:53 pm UTC

A theory.
Megan found people. She says. Cuegan can't see it, even his “Yeah...” reply to “Do you see the dust?” sounds doubtful.
She's making it up. In frames 2540-2542 they agreed to turn back if they didn't see any people at the top, and Megan doesn't want to turn back.

Favourite frame? I don't really have one, the thing with Time is that the sum is greater than its parts. But it you insist, I'll pick one from the aftermath of Lucky's attack, that is probably my favourite period of Time, you can really see they've grown closer to each other. Frame 2263, where Cueball may or may not have kissed Megan on the forehead, is a good example of this period.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:59 pm UTC

More to do with the AOC:
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Thanks for your AOC comments k.bookbinder, mscha, Rule110, BlitzGirl, ZoomanSP, Earthling on Mars. :) Love your war wolpy, fhorn - he (or she) is an esteemed member of the Knights Temporal! And a fine ONG too, btw. cONGratulations! (Earthling on Mars - it took me a moment to figure out your icon response - at first it looked like somebody brushing his teeth! :)

Also Exodies, running along one scene behind.
Exoides wrote:"Keep an eye on ucim" NSA.
LOL!

AluisioASG, I hope you enjoy the present Acts when you get to them. Meanwhile, I expect they will be there until the end of Time.

k.bookbinder wrote:But uh, shouldn't that be "Cry havoc and let slip the wolpies of war"?
Yes, if she were speaking modern. But she was referencing the Ancient Texts, ande in thoyse dayse ye wyrde "dog" wys styll in wydespreade yuse. Besides, it scanned better. :)

mscha wrote:Yay, new Acts! And with an unexpected twist!
Hilarious! Image

And a happy 700th post, Jose!
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Thanks mscha! 700 posts - hmmm. Almost half of them right here. And gee, it is true what they say - if you can think it, there is cake on it.
More to do with the OTT:
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re: connected identities...
I don't mind that people here (and a few select robots, undead, and molpies) find out who I am... after all, I just about announced it when I posted my song. My privacy issues stem from the web robots of google, Amazon, United Healthcare, Century21, Aetna, NY Times, the political parties, and many other groups, who would piece together all the little clues and create umwelt on me to my detriment and their benefit. While this has been happening all along to a small extent (local editions of regional newspapers, for example) and is getting more pervasive (targeted advertising which phones home and tells its friends), it is actually not all that difficult to create editorial content which, under the same URL, would be "written" (or presented) differently depending on what the computer thinks of me. If they control what you read, they control what you think. That is the brave new world I am not so thrilled about.

@jjjdavidson: Don't fret about not being perfectly caught up... it's supposed to be fun, after all. There are many time portals, and they get a lot of use. :) But I know what you mean about a time sink. I am accomplishing far less work work than I used to, and I have to manually remember to look at the other webcomics (and indeed the other xkcd fora) that I used to frequent. I wonder if the xkcd fora have taken a hit from our postings? A bit of quick math - it looks like this thread alone accounts for more than one percent of all posts on XKCD. So... probably not all that much. Still just to hit an integer percent number on one thread is impressive.

@Latent22: Neat cake, neat dress. I imagine the rest of it was also pretty neat.

re: Blitzing vs Condiments... I see Blitzing as implying reading it all, for an extended segment of the One True Thread. Sometimes it will involve going back to the beginning, if the beginning is where one's Great Void commences. However, there are those who, having experienced the Beginning of Time, and also the Latter Stages of Time, for one reason or another have a Great Void in the middle of Time. Filling that Great Void by reading it all in that extended segment the One True Thread is certainly a Blitz.

Ketchup (and other condiments) implies (to me) becoming current by reading or skimming whatever it takes to make you familiar with the most recent segment of the One True Thread. It does not imply reading it all, but it does imply arriving at (or close to) the present.

They are both Holy Sacraments, and they are both Proper ways to experience Time. There are no improper ways - blessings flow from the River of Time unto all who pass through its waters, howsoever briefly or extensively they dwell therein.

re: initial impressions of the OTC - I am impressed that so many people instantly thought of an animated image. I guess it's partly due to the fact that I generally browse (or used to - this thread has changed that!) with animations turned off. So, the idea doesn't even come to mind.

SBN wrote:He's going to a safe place, so he will. I don't know his story, but Dals are like Newfs in that a lot of people fall in love with the puppies, and can't handle them as adults. I get all my wolpies used, and try to help others when I can, and giving them a ride is an easy way to do that. We had a pleasant morning drive, and he's a bit closer to home.
Sounds like a network of wolpy lovers, kind of like a relay team. Yes? Hope he finds a great home!
More to do with the OTC:
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re: goings-on in the OTC: "far" means different things in different context. In the context of "on the horizon, when we usually just look ten feet in front of us", the people (or dust) is/are far. But in the context of "we've been walking for weeks, it's only a day away", it's not far at all.

I am sold on the idea that it is a surveying tower of some sort. Perhaps the people they are seeing also know something about why the sea is rising, or why the river is "broken". (Do they remember that that was their original mission?)

Tatiana wrote:It strikes me that the tower would be a safe place to sleep tonight, likely to be free of meowlpies and other predators. Maybe they should do that so they can both sleep together, rather than taking turn and turn about down on the ground.
Yes, I agree. But, what time of day is it? With people in the distance, might they be better off going there now if they can make it before sunset? (Hoping of course that they are friendly). The Cuegan do seem to be loners however - the whole "haven't been seen by anyone" loqution....

in a firstpost, Ahmet_Cesaret wrote:Thats why I suggest to divide the Mountain Era in two eras. The Mountain Side era, starting where the actual Mountain Era does, and ending on The Fluttermolpy Discussion period. And the Mountain Plateau era starting in The Weird Tree Period and ending where the Mountain Era does.
I think you make a good point. Several, in fact. I especially like your point about the atmosphere of the comic changing.

xpatiate wrote:... 'getting some bags' was all the preparation they seemed to need...
This is typical however of xkcd characters in the OtherComics, so I do not see it as noteworthy here.

Perhaps that it is not noteworthy is noteworthy however. :)
Favorite frame - I'm not sure I have one. I'll have to go back and look, but meanwhile this post is seaish enough!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:03 pm UTC

mscha wrote:A theory.
Megan found people. She says. Cuegan can't see it, even his “Yeah...” reply to “Do you see the dust?” sounds doubtful.
She's making it up. In frames 2540-2542 they agreed to turn back if they didn't see any people at the top, and Megan doesn't want to turn back.

Interesting theory, though I'm sad about what it means for Megan if true.

charlie_grumbles wrote:Hmmm. Someone asked for it so this one :twisted:
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Shiny and dusty and bicycly!
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Another favorite newpix - 799, the first appearance of LaPetite, when we realized there was someone else in this world besides Cuegan:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:05 pm UTC

SparONG a glance for the surveying tower:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:05 pm UTC

mscha wrote:<snip>
OMR, it's a ... a ...
No idea.
I loved all the theories and mockups, both before and after the tower was revealed. The theories that I find most likely, are BlitzGirl's headframe or Kieryn's long clock.
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Just a reminder that I'm here waiting and watching, if not posting...

Also... thanks but - it was not my idea... I believe Rule110 was the first to put it forward as a theory for the top of the mountain thing, and i believe it has been associated with the OTC much longer than that.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=101043&p=3394091&hilit=clock#p3394091

I'm blind so it may have been suggested, but I wonder if the people in the distance is some sort of max max style caravan of rusty old cars... The structure could be an oil pump.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TimeLurker » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:19 pm UTC

Per BlitzPapal Decree, my favorite frame is 2601Geekwagon #. I really thought that it was a fakeONG, and just love the humor in it from both halves of Cuegan.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rvloon » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:35 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:We can drink some caffeine (no semen to enjoy)


You cheeky girl you!

Ronald

PS: wouldn't that need to be seamen, though?

ETA: my favorite frame would be the one with that gigantic tap that turns out to be the source of the water. I couldn't find it when I tried to search for it. I know it's not from the OTC but the OTT. I am basically one of those persons who is more involved with story than the actual images, which means that if the OTT had never existed I would have given up on the OTC by now - I definitely wouldn't have seen all the frames.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edfel » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:41 pm UTC

[sorry if this has already been discussed]
Did you notice the strangeness of the structure? What do you conclude? As I see it, there's this instrument 4q high set on a triangular scaffold, with a rectangular scaffold around it to see/use it and shelter it. From the independence of the structures, I'd say that either it's been built at different times, or it serves to support heavy weights (as in the mining theory, or if it's used to bring heavy things up the mountain).

I'd say that the instrument has been built in the pre-apocalyptic area, and that the scaffolding has been made around it to protect it when people no longer knew how to craft such things...

And also, my [current] favorite frame:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:00 pm UTC

Poor Castle ONG!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:01 pm UTC

So do we, Megan, so do we.

ETA predictionwrong: we're about to find out. After Cuegan leaves the current scene, we stay behind, then fade into the beach scene.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Earthling on Mars » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:03 pm UTC

Don't worry, Megan, I'm sure LaPetite is taking good care of it.
Maybe.
I hope.

ucim wrote:(Earthling on Mars - it took me a moment to figure out your icon response - at first it looked like somebody brushing his teeth! :)

Yeah, that was what Google gave me for a "roll on floor laughing" smiley. Somebody posted a better one in the thread at some point, but I couldn't find it. :(

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rvloon » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:10 pm UTC

Earthling on Mars wrote:Yeah, that was what Google gave me for a "roll on floor laughing" smiley. Somebody posted a better one in the thread at some point, but I couldn't find it. :(


Yeah, that's the difficulty with some of the graphics in the OTT. They're usually not tagged and it's context not always apparent. So, if those gifted artists could find it in their hearts to provide a few keywords, maybe even with a very small pointsize or spoilered, it would be appreciated.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:13 pm UTC

Kieryn has a collection of smileys posted on the OTT (which have the word emoticon or smiley in their link name) here:
http://xkcd-time.kieryn.com/Default/Thr ... et=smileys

It's recent to the last time he added NewData. I often fetch them there when I remember one I liked.
And yeah, it took me a very long time to find my C.O.M.A. animation, because I was silly enough to not put keywords with it. Same with the first iteration of One True Cat.

ETA: Another favorite frame, 881, the saddest of all: bye.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:14 pm UTC

Whew! I must say, out running a storm in a kayak is no easy task.

@AluisioASG Hope your competition training session goes well!

@Charlie_Grumbles Thanks for the TdF update. I always wondered why there was someone wearing a silly polka dotted jersey. Ugh, just the descriptions of the climbs make my knees scream out in agony.

@mscha Good point. It would not surprise me if Megan decided to tell a little white lie, in order to justify continuing their journey.

@Everyone else Hi.

I think I would agree with SBN, in regards to my favorite frame. That meteor was pretty spectacular.

I wonder if the GLR, Creator of Time, will ever show us what happened to the sand castle.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:17 pm UTC

Earthling On Mars wrote:
ucim wrote:(Earthling on Mars - it took me a moment to figure out your icon response - at first it looked like somebody brushing his teeth! :)

Yeah, that was what Google gave me for a "roll on floor laughing" smiley. Somebody posted a better one in the thread at some point, but I couldn't find it. :(
Oh, don't be sad. Once I saw it as what it was, it was Very Good. It just gave me a moment of entertainment while I was trying to figure out what hidden message "brushing teeth" was holding!

And entertainment is always good. :)

rvloon wrote:Yeah, that's the difficulty with some of the graphics in the OTT. They're usually not tagged and it's context not always apparent. So, if those gifted artists could find it in their hearts to provide a few keywords, maybe even with a very small pointsize or spoilered, it would be appreciated.
And spoil the fun of figuring it out? (It could be put in the title tag of the graphic; I don't know how to do that in phpBB though.)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hajo » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:18 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Poor Castle ONG!

So, does that mean they could see their home, but not the castle ?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:22 pm UTC

hajo wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Poor Castle ONG!
So, does that mean they could see their home, but not the castle ?
I would take it that way. The sandcastle may not show up so well, but their "town", such as it is, might. Even if they can't recognize their house, they may recognize the landscape.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tman2nd » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:23 pm UTC

hajo wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Poor Castle ONG!

So, does that mean they could see their home, but not the castle ?


I think they were joking.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Montov » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:30 pm UTC

mscha wrote:So do we, Megan, so do we.

ETA predictionwrong: we're about to find out. After Cuegan leaves the current scene, we stay behind, then fade into the beach scene.


That was my thought as well with that frame. Otherwise, we'll be watching a walking Megball for daysH.
But maybe it's a bit premuature to show what LaPetite has done.

Favorite frame? time.png. Other than that, I still love Cueball showing off his recursive castle to Megan. And the starry night is a new favorite for me.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rvloon » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:33 pm UTC

ucim wrote:
rvloon wrote:Yeah, that's the difficulty with some of the graphics in the OTT. They're usually not tagged and it's context not always apparent. So, if those gifted artists could find it in their hearts to provide a few keywords, maybe even with a very small pointsize or spoilered, it would be appreciated.
And spoil the fun of figuring it out? (It could be put in the title tag of the graphic; I don't know how to do that in phpBB though.)

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Well, that's the toss-up of a joke-at-the-time vs the do-you-remember-that-joke-later - so a way to embed keywords without showing them to give away anything, would be ideal.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:36 pm UTC

Another of my favorites, 1628, when Megan tries to feed the squirpy but it goes for its own food instead:
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rvloon wrote:ETA: my favorite frame would be the one with that gigantic tap that turns out to be the source of the water. I couldn't find it when I tried to search for it. I know it's not from the OTC but the OTT. I am basically one of those persons who is more involved with story than the actual images, which means that if the OTT had never existed I would have given up on the OTC by now - I definitely wouldn't have seen all the frames.

I remembered that Rule110 did the faucets, so I went and found them for you:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tman2nd » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:42 pm UTC

I was about to update the dialogue page on the wiki, so I'm wondering which numbering system I should use.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:46 pm UTC

tman2nd wrote:I was about to update the dialogue page on the wiki, so I'm wondering which numbering system I should use.

Well, the page itself states: “The following table summarizes all dialogue from the xkcd comic "Time". The table uses a frame number (per mscha's Frame Reference system) (...)”. Also, that's what the existing entries are using, so I'd stick with that.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rvloon » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:51 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Source of the taps/faucets I was looking for.


I won't list the first naughty thought that came to me as what I could offer you by way of thanks. No, really, I won't. I'll leave that to your imagination. It might be taken the wrong way :wink:

But thanks for finding these; they made me smile again. Much appreciated. I suppose the Wiki could also be used to do the actual tagging, but then there would be some Wikian effort involved. Or could we introduce a bb-keyword to automatically wiki a graphic up?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tman2nd » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:52 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
tman2nd wrote:I was about to update the dialogue page on the wiki, so I'm wondering which numbering system I should use.

Well, the page itself states: “The following table summarizes all dialogue from the xkcd comic "Time". The table uses a frame number (per mscha's Frame Reference system) (...)”. Also, that's what the existing entries are using, so I'd stick with that.


Ok. I was hesitant because other parts of the wiki are using geekwagon's numbers.
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We Can't Find the Thread of Time!!1!

Postby mscha » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:52 pm UTC

BlitzGirl, it appears your Polish copies of both versions of your Boom De Yada are missing! All links give “404 Not Found.”

The links I have (under Related Links on my list page) are:

We Love the Thread of Time
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large: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/05/06/TimeThreadLarge.png

We Love the Thread of Time Too
regular is a forum link (still works)
large: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/05/25/BoomDeYadaLargeSize.png
huge: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/05/25/BoomDeYadaHugeSize.png


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tman2nd wrote:Ok. I was hesitant because other parts of the wiki are using geekwagon's numbers.

I wouldn't use the current Geekwagon numbers anywhere, because those are almost certainly going to change. Either he'll add the four missing meteor frames within the sequence, or he'll remove the one meteor frame that he has.
(I mailed him a couple of icositetranewpix ago about the missing meteor frames. Haven't heard back, and he hasn't changed anything yet.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby patzer » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:58 pm UTC

mscha wrote:Also, that's what the existing entries are using, so I'd stick with that.

Actually, the Frame numbering page states that the geekwagon system is used, which is true for the Periods pages and possibly others, because the wiki often directly links to the relevant frame on geekwagon. I'm okay with other systems being used if the page specifically states that though.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eutychus » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:00 pm UTC

Time I ONGed again

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Re: We Can't Find the Thread of Time!!1!

Postby BlitzGirl » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:00 pm UTC

mscha wrote:BlitzGirl, it appears your Polish copies of both versions of your Boom De Yada are missing! All links give “404 Not Found.”
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The links I have (under Related Links on my list page) are:

We Love the Thread of Time
regular: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/04/30/WeLoveTheTimeThread.png
large: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/05/06/TimeThreadLarge.png

We Love the Thread of Time Too
regular is a forum link (still works)
large: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/05/25/BoomDeYadaLargeSize.png
huge: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/05/25/BoomDeYadaHugeSize.png

Hmm. They seem to be working now, at least for me. Perhaps the image site went down temporarily - it's done that before. Anyone else having problems seeing them?

ETA: Another favorite frame: 972, the first newpix after the Fading, in full black and white once more. It was very exciting at the Time.
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Re: We Can't Find the Thread of Time!!1!

Postby mscha » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:16 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:
mscha wrote:BlitzGirl, it appears your Polish copies of both versions of your Boom De Yada are missing! All links give “404 Not Found.”
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The links I have (under Related Links on my list page) are:

We Love the Thread of Time
regular: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/04/30/WeLoveTheTimeThread.png
large: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/05/06/TimeThreadLarge.png

We Love the Thread of Time Too
regular is a forum link (still works)
large: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/05/25/BoomDeYadaLargeSize.png
huge: http://vpx.pl/i/2013/05/25/BoomDeYadaHugeSize.png

Hmm. They seem to be working now, at least for me. Perhaps the image site went down temporarily - it's done that before. Anyone else having problems seeing them?

Hmm, still broken for me.
(...)
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% wget http://vpx.pl/i/2013/04/30/WeLoveTheTimeThread.png
--2013-07-06 23:14:46--  http://vpx.pl/i/2013/04/30/WeLoveTheTimeThread.png
Resolving vpx.pl (vpx.pl)... 2001:41d0:1:9a42::1, 108.162.199.101, 108.162.198.101
Connecting to vpx.pl (vpx.pl)|2001:41d0:1:9a42::1|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2013-07-06 23:14:46 ERROR 404: Not Found.

% wget -4 http://vpx.pl/i/2013/04/30/WeLoveTheTimeThread.png
--2013-07-06 23:14:50--  http://vpx.pl/i/2013/04/30/WeLoveTheTimeThread.png
Resolving vpx.pl (vpx.pl)... 108.162.199.101, 108.162.198.101
Connecting to vpx.pl (vpx.pl)|108.162.199.101|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
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Saving to: `WeLoveTheTimeThread.png.1'

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2013-07-06 23:14:51 (1.03 MB/s) - `WeLoveTheTimeThread.png.1' saved [828422/828422]

If works when I connect to vpx.pl with an IPv4 address, but not with an IPv6 address. Since hardly anyone uses IPv6 (even though we're basically out of IPv4 addresses), it'll work for most people.
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Postby AluisioASG » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:21 pm UTC

My favorite frames are those numbered 0 to 2167.

An update to Cake Time should arrive in a few hours… or in a few minutes (I just tried to open L:\ on Sublime Text in Arch Linux — I need to check these prepositions again).
EDIT: GitHub doesn't like me at the moment. It'll take a few hours.

I'd also like to know if anyone is interested in being an alpha/beta/release candidate-reader for my stuff (OTT-related and unrelated too). Native English would be good. I promise I'll try not to bore you. Replies via PM so to not spam the Thread.

Oh, and this:

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86 a8 fc 30 15 45 01 30 c9 92 6f 66 83 ed 61 4b
d8 b8 f9 44 aa 77 c1 e0 c0 7b 26 fa af 21 22 f0
29 88 02 e7 1a b5 a4 a8 0b f8 7b 11 e1 3e a3 a2
1e 96 56 f1 d9 00 b7 20 8a 5c 13 66 41 10 d6 44
d0 31 ff af 94 2c 0d cf 56 23 21 27 73 f9 97 46
08 7d 6d 05 93 52 fd 3e 3f 00 55 a8 45 7b 6a 75
14 46 0a 11 97 fd 19 67 75 d7 af 02 1c ef 5d a6
de 87 8e 32 53 be 6d e7 ed 56 9e cb 73 c8 cc 63
9f 70 22 09 08 d6 e8 30 12 bd 8c d9 bf 07 20 91
11 dd 0f d3 30 2e 67 20 2c 77 f3 d2 0f e3 9e 0c
a3 3c 5d 72 b2 2f 81 39 d9 21 ec 6e 0b 8d 7a f2
e2 ba c3 6c 43 37 ef 39 5e e1 29 fa d3 8b 6d 9a
f3 71 89 74 64 24 61 29 b8 14 45 d0 d0 88 f4 7c
47 53 3f 54 77 e7 4a a8 24 44 3e 36 bf 77 40 1c
14 24 3c 9f c1 61 2f aa e9 54 cd b2 06 9f 42 7e
0f b0 ea 00 ae db 93 6d 8a b0 17 d4 14 3a 57 39
db db 6f 42 c6 dc 50 cf 02 df 36 17 75 e4 e3 2e
83 c4 5a 9c 06 80 59 b3 98 9c f1 57 af 19 fb 81
cc d1 4f 2a 83 9a cf a2 10 22 2e 43 e6 e7 d7 83
71 06 9c de fb 7b 99 b5 8c 2a d6 88 50 60 dd dd
13 85 21 d5 22 d5 59 36 2a 5c 28 7e 8c e3 04 b9
51 0f f1 40 e6 c8 53 10 fd 87 de 0d a0 20 c6 c7
3b 7b 94 6b f9 d8 1a 72 29 fc d0 bf 30 37 71 3d
24 0a 47 1a 2f 9d 6b 9d 7a ec c9 5a e7 0a 14 35
6d 59 4a a6 8e a3 6d 54 8d 13 0d ec 5f 6c ee 00
0b f5 50 e1 17 d7 e0 8e 52 6e e2 e0 93 14 06 07
8e a0 0c ab 8b 7a c9 86 9b 24 de 07 bc 8e cd de
75 b0 fd 25 a4 e6 a7 a5 16 d8 8f 78 28 0f 85 45
08 ff 6a 1c 1a 7c f8 fc 00 99 76 5d 27 f0 3f f6
d9 36 87 a6 01 6b 33 96 c0 98 3d 1c 01 b7 9c 5a
a7 3a 5c dc e9 67 51 67 51 10 96 a2 1a 07 fc 25
bd 0b fe a0 a6 47 29 d9 69 0f 8c bc bd 3c 6e fc
fe ab 0f 70 31 e0 a6 67 23 7d bf 1f c1 be 4d de
4c 31 28 d5 30 cb 69 56 c8 85 35 f9 09 60 f8 00
73 2d 54 a3 56 67 2d 1c ab a2 3f 5d dd e7 67 a2
ba bc 5e b5 ec 82 cc 38 1f 41 51 1c 8e ef bd 01
c8 40 5c 46 2d 01 d5 05 37 e1 b1 89 83 34 0e 22
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b9 f1 39 db de 6e 37 60 15 fd a3 05 c1 a4 42 f1
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:23 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Another of my favorites, 1628, when Megan tries to feed the squirpy but it goes for its own food instead:
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rvloon wrote:ETA: my favorite frame would be the one with that gigantic tap that turns out to be the source of the water. I couldn't find it when I tried to search for it. I know it's not from the OTC but the OTT. I am basically one of those persons who is more involved with story than the actual images, which means that if the OTT had never existed I would have given up on the OTC by now - I definitely wouldn't have seen all the frames.

I remembered that Rule110 did the faucets, so I went and found them for you:
First iteration:
Spoiler:
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Second iteration:
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Wow, your favorite frame of all? Cool, but I hope Randall doesn't find out. ("Those ingrates. I draw them umpteen thousand frames...")

My favorite is this:
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With a scant few added pixels, the world becomes suddenly much larger and more familiar, a change reinforced a few dozen frames later with Megan glancing back at the first tiny tree, and then the "Neat" tree. At the same time, Megan and Cueball's background becomes more mysterious: why are these things so unfamiliar to them? A mystery that is still with us today. With that turn, Time became, at least in part, adventure and speculative fiction.

Also, the frame is beautifully composed, in an ultra-minimalist way. (Obligatory cautionary reference to xkcd 915.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:26 pm UTC

Montov wrote:
mscha wrote:So do we, Megan, so do we.

ETA predictionwrong: we're about to find out. After Cuegan leaves the current scene, we stay behind, then fade into the beach scene.


That was my thought as well with that frame. Otherwise, we'll be watching a walking Megball for daysH.
But maybe it's a bit premuature to show what LaPetite has done.

Favorite frame? time.png. Other than that, I still love Cueball showing off his recursive castle to Megan. And the starry night is a new favorite for me.


I'm in agreement with the fade1 theory because I really think this is a story with a beginning, middle and end as has been proposed by many others in pages past. We are at the right point in the story and around the right number of frames for cut to the third and final act. The sandcastle introduction act 1 (970 frames) set the scene introduced the hero Cuegan and created an initial premise (the mystery of the rising sea). Act 2 (1640 frames) followed a sort of classical adventure plot... the we followed hero Cuegan struggle up the side of the mountain and have to overcome a number of obstacles (including the molpycat) to reach their goal of reaching the top of the mountain. They are not really any closer yet to understanding the initial mystery, but all should be revealed in the final act which should be faster paced (at least in terms of revelations) and ought to last a similar length to the first act giving a rough end date to the OTC of August 15th.

Of course it could be more of an epic or saga and have more than 3 acts, in which case it could go on for the rest of 2013... or who knows beyond...

I'm not sure which I would prefer... I'm starting to want some resolution now, but of course it will be sad to think it could be ending soon. But as I've said before all things must end.

Favorite frame?
897. That's the first frame I think when people started noticing the fade. It was a crazy time... people were so excited... and I'd had just posted my lemmings video not 2 pages before. Perfect timing for the transition...


1 Edit: Though I don't think it will be necessarily the beach, though it could be.

Edit 2: Mscha, and others... please be on point for detecting fades... I'm not able to do any computer wizardry at the moment.
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