1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:30 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:37 pm UTC

Angelastic wrote:It's a bit late now, but I'm surprised Image didn't tell Mr(s). Bean the English word for water.

Likewise, I was kind of expecting it. Seems like the polite thing to do.. exchange a word.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SinusPi » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:41 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:Maybe he should donate his spare leg to Megan...
"Hey babe, why don't we come over to my place and I'll donate my spare leg to you?" Seems like a good line.

(edit) Oh, I'm the Pagepope! Does this make me pope-ular now..?

(edit 2) Heeeey. :(
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:44 pm UTC

SinusPi wrote:
Whizbang wrote:Maybe he should donate his spare leg to Megan...
"Hey babe, why don't we come over to my place and I'll donate my spare leg to you?" Seems like a good line.

(edit) Oh, I'm the Pagepope! Does this make me pope-ular now..?


No, because you're not the pope...did a post get deleted or added?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:46 pm UTC

Hmm. This could be a while.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HereBeUnmappedBits » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:50 pm UTC

ChronosDragon wrote:Oh, all right then. I suppose it is a toque, in that case. Out of curiosity, is that pronounced "t-uh-que" or "t-oh-que"?


In my experience in western Canada toque was pronounced to rhyme with fluke.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:51 pm UTC

higgs-boson wrote:time for another merchandising campaign...
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Ladies!

Ever got the feeling your man / fiancé / boy-friend / target reads you like an open book?
Ever left under the impression you have no secrets anymore?
Crestfallen, because even the NSA doesn't care about your life?

Time for a change!

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That's amazing! But the phone number's not picking up; is there a place to order online? :lol:

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Rule110 wrote:Sudden understandONG (fake)
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(IMO you should just leave out the “(fake)”. W'all would figure it out soon enough anyway.)

True, but if people started posting truly deceptive fakes it could get very annoying very quickly, and I don't want to set a precedent in that direction.

Re linguistics: The second word of the new long Beanong text might be related to the first word in the very first Beanong utterance -- Image. The latter two symbols are the same. From the context, it's likely these could either be different interrogative pronouns (such as "who" and "what") or inflections of a second-person pronoun (such as "you" and "your" respectively).

Of course, they could also be no more related than "it" and "git" but might as well consider every likely possibility when there's not much to go on.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby CasCat » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:51 pm UTC

Two posts apparently got out of moderation a few minutes ago, but I can't find them in the last four or five pages. At least, the two posts on the top of this page *were* on the bottom of the last, last I checked....
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:58 pm UTC

Kieryn wrote:Hmm. This could be a while.

Probably. But I don't see it getting [heresy]boring[/heresy] any time soon.

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CasCat wrote:Two posts apparently got out of moderation a few minutes ago, but I can't find them in the last four or five pages. At least, the two posts on the top of this page *were* on the bottom of the last, last I checked....

Should be four, actually, since Valarya was briefly mamal.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edo » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:01 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:03 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
CasCat wrote:Two posts apparently got out of moderation a few minutes ago, but I can't find them in the last four or five pages. At least, the two posts on the top of this page *were* on the bottom of the last, last I checked....

Should be four, actually, since Valarya was briefly mamal.

That's a pretty major pope-bump, more like a pope-thwap. Nothing in the last 2 newpages.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby CasCat » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:06 pm UTC

HES wrote:
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CasCat wrote:Two posts apparently got out of moderation a few minutes ago, but I can't find them in the last four or five pages. At least, the two posts on the top of this page *were* on the bottom of the last, last I checked....

Should be four, actually, since Valarya was briefly mamal.

That's a pretty major pope-bump, more like a pope-thwap. Nothing in the last 2 newpages.


I saw it bump two forward with my own eyes, but I certainly will take Valarya's word for the other two.

But they must be back several pages, because I just can't find them. Or they were moderated for other than first-post reasons...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:07 pm UTC

First and second post bumping:
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thirds wrote:Could there have been something in the drink to make them drowsy?

That's something I didn't think of.* Of course that could take Time down a even darker path than it's been on since Lucky attacked.


Alright, so maybe the beanies have a really bad sense of hospitality. And it really does seem like they drank something; people don't usually simultaneously coma mid-conversation.
But who in all Time would just conveniently have a bowl of Lunesta in front of their house??

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Oooh, interesting. I do think you could argue that the OTT is the longest piece of religious literature (in that the OTT as a whole is central to our "religion") ever created, though.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:08 pm UTC

I found the other two firstposts (the PFANP-thing is really helpful for this):
b2bomberkrh wrote:I guess I'm the only one who thinks they're yawning because of something that was in what they just drank?
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OK, Beanies give both of them a drink, then both of them yawn. Megan yawns mid-sentence. Doesn't seem like it's been very long since the long night...has anyone else thought that maybe Cuegan have just been drugged? Maybe they get "retconned" back to the beach and start all over again, not remembering already building a sandcastle and not remembering that they had already found other rivers. Maybe the sea tides are normal, but Cuegan simply don't remember the last high tide. Are they doomed to repeat this trip, over and over?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby CasCat » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:11 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby irino » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:12 pm UTC

HES wrote:
mscha wrote:
CasCat wrote:Two posts apparently got out of moderation a few minutes ago, but I can't find them in the last four or five pages. At least, the two posts on the top of this page *were* on the bottom of the last, last I checked....

Should be four, actually, since Valarya was briefly mamal.

That's a pretty major pope-bump, more like a pope-thwap. Nothing in the last 2 newpages.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby iisjreg » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:14 pm UTC

CasCat wrote:Welcome to all our newcomers! Pull up a bucket and stay awhile!


You'll find a bucket by the sandcas..... oh. http://xkcd.mscha.org/viewer/2612 :(

ETA: the CueDrawing actually appears to kinda match the map on the wiki, if we take the sea as being the sandcastle sea.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Tom17 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:18 pm UTC

Arrrgh, time must be slowing down. Or maybe it's just me checking more often since the Beanies arrived. I remember a time, not long ago (only last week, in fact) that I could go a few days at a time without checking the story so far. That would often result in a nice little story unfold in front of my eyes.

Alas, right now, I need to see every frame as I am desperately keen to work out what's being said. And it's testing my p a t i e n c e...

Back to lurking ;)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:22 pm UTC

Here's an updated animation, just Cuegan and Beanie, no distractions of dialogue and drawing.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:37 pm UTC

HereBeUnmappedBits wrote:
ChronosDragon wrote:Oh, all right then. I suppose it is a toque, in that case. Out of curiosity, is that pronounced "t-uh-que" or "t-oh-que"?


In my experience in western Canada toque was pronounced to rhyme with fluke.


I was wondering that too. Thanks HereBe!

In the U.S. they're usually, as far as I know, just called "knit hats" or "knit caps." I've sometimes called them "watch caps" but I think that's an older usage. "Stocking caps" is an even older name, and probably describes a type a bit different than most modern types. I've sometimes seen "cuffed hat." And now, with or without the cuff, they're also called "beanies," it appears.

"Beanie" seems to have changed meaning completely. Originally, beanies were brimless bowl-shaped hats made of stiff fabric that would keep their shape (though they could be folded in on itself in halves), while knit hats are completely flexible and fall flat when not being worn. (The classic Mickey Mouse hat, for instance, would be a beanie with mouse ears.) Now the word is being used for pretty much all knit hats. (Perhaps there was a transitional phase when it meant a cuff-less knit hat? Both types are called "beanies" now but you still see more cuff-less ones than cuffed ones being called "beanies.")
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Oripy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:38 pm UTC

To me beanish looks like stenography (a method used to write phonetically very quickly used before we invented the typewriter/computer), especially the "Duployé Codifiée" method used in France.
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This is certainly not the right guess because in stenography each glyph is a word by itself, but to me this may be read as (my stenography is a bit rusty):

Image = bump / pump / bumb

Image = nofe / nafe

Image = pene

Image = deni-iste (wierldy placed "finale")

Am-I the only one to see a similarity?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lunarul » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:41 pm UTC

Maybe I missed someone already posting this, but at this point I think it's fairly obvious what some of the signs over the letters mean:
- single line is a period (speeches 3, 4, 5, 7)
- double line is an exclamation mark (speech 8)
- circle is a question mark (speeches 1, 2)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby marchlight » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:46 pm UTC

Rule110 wrote:
HereBeUnmappedBits wrote:
ChronosDragon wrote:Oh, all right then. I suppose it is a toque, in that case. Out of curiosity, is that pronounced "t-uh-que" or "t-oh-que"?


In my experience in western Canada toque was pronounced to rhyme with fluke.


I was wondering that too. Thanks HereBe!


Just another Vancouverite weighing in to say I would indeed rhyme it with "fluke". However, I spell it with the u, like this: touque.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TimeLurker » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:48 pm UTC

marchlight wrote:
Rule110 wrote:
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ChronosDragon wrote:Oh, all right then. I suppose it is a toque, in that case. Out of curiosity, is that pronounced "t-uh-que" or "t-oh-que"?

In my experience in western Canada toque was pronounced to rhyme with fluke.

I was wondering that too. Thanks HereBe!

Just another Vancouverite weighing in to say I would indeed rhyme it with "fluke". However, I spell it with the u, like this: touque.

Getting closer to solving the mystery. Now, do you pronounce the 'e' on the end of "fluke" as 'eh' or 'ee'?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Burton » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:52 pm UTC

TimeLurker wrote:Getting closer to solving the mystery. Now, do you pronounce the 'e' on the end of "fluke" as 'eh' or 'ee'?


I can answer this one. The answer is "no". The 'e' is pronounced like this:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby marchlight » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:56 pm UTC

TimeLurker wrote:Getting closer to solving the mystery. Now, do you pronounce the 'e' on the end of "fluke" as 'eh' or 'ee'?


Eh, as in: "That's a nice touque, eh?"

ETA: Oh! Maybe the dot over the beanish symbols means "eh"! They're Canadian after all!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TimeLurker » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:58 pm UTC

marchlight wrote:
TimeLurker wrote:Getting closer to solving the mystery. Now, do you pronounce the 'e' on the end of "fluke" as 'eh' or 'ee'?


Eh, as in: "That's a nice touque, eh?"

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ETA: And now, Beanie Guy will *thwap* Cueball with his own stick.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:04 pm UTC

Wow, nobody posted the ONG yet?

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ETA: is that a line showing the new sea level?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby moody7277 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:06 pm UTC

taixzo wrote:Wow, nobody posted the ONG yet?

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Recalling the flash-sideways frames a little bit ago, I would say yes.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:07 pm UTC

Yikes - I decoma to a paragraph of Beanish!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby nsub1 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:08 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby b2bomberkrh » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:14 pm UTC

Wow, I thought my post had been lost forever. At the time, it was the first suggesting there was something in the water, but of course, by now not only was that theory suggested by several others, but seems to have been totally wrong anyway. I was worried none of my posts were going to go through, so I wasn't even able to comment on the "Badger, badger, badger" reference, which cracked me up because it was the first thing I thought of also when I saw the long lines of repeated Beanish. I guess this is my test post to determine if I should still expect delays ongoing.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby partingLance » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:20 pm UTC

ChronosDragon wrote:
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ChronosDragon wrote:Oh, is it time to wear beanies now? I have one that I picked up at a gas station mart when I went to vancouver earlier this year (I got it JUST so I could make fun of my canadian friend who always wears beanie hats). Maybe I'll digify it and add it to my list of pending avatar hats for some near-future hatgif.


Ahem. If you bought it in VancouverOUTSIDE, it was a toque. I'm just saying.

Now, if you'd bought it at one of the ski hills, odds are good you'd have been served by an Australian, here on a work visa. In which case, it would arguably have been a beanie. Otherwise, in Canada a beanie has brightly-coloured panels and a propellor, just as in USia.

OUTSIDE Where I happen to live, incidentally.


Oh, all right then. I suppose it is a toque, in that case. Out of curiosity, is that pronounced "t-uh-que" or "t-oh-que"?


Others having weighed in on this, I'm just curious: are you saying your Canadian friend didn't explain it to you, at (possibly) unnecessary length?

Canadians, I'll grant you, can be touchy about such trivia. I like to think I make up for this, somewhat, with an inspiring lack of patriotism.

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marchlight wrote:Oh! Maybe the dot over the beanish symbols means "eh"! They're Canadian after all!


In particular, as I suggested a few NP ago, Newfoundlanders.

If I were plunked down in one of the few remaining isolated, old-style outports there, I might be almost as baffled as Cuegan are by the Beanies.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:20 pm UTC

Hi, b2bomberkrh! Welcome! Now that you've been moderator-approved, I believe that your posts will appear in real-time (if not now, then definitely after your first five posts).

Have you seen the whole "Badgers" parody video that yappobiscuits made? Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU9RL6D23jk
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Earthling on Mars » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:22 pm UTC

I think Megan's "It's OK" in frame 2713 was referring to her knee feeling better. In the next frame she seems to be almost dancing on it to show that it's better.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:25 pm UTC

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Sadly not - I thought i'd try to make that line special by reversing the audio but it just sounded too weird and wasn't clear enough what I was trying to achieve with it so I just left it as it is. That would've been a better idea though, singing it upside down!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby b2bomberkrh » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:31 pm UTC

The cup may have been a victim of Balefire. It's not clear which of the three of them is secretly one of the Forsaken, though.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SinusPi » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:32 pm UTC

You guys are too fast, and I'll probably be late to the party again, but allow me a little analysis:

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Purple interpunctions seem solved now - circles for questions, dashes for fullstops, double dashes for exclamations, no interpunction for heresy.
We also have half-circles, marked turquoise. Accents? Tones? They don't seem to break the flow of the sentences, so could just be diacritics.
For phrases, though - we have pretty confirmed red "water" and possibly orange "medicine". What are the greenish "ZL" (prepended with a hook the first time) and the "4'6" twice?
Note how the "water" got a 3 prepended, and so did the 4'6.
Conjecture: perhaps 3 is an emphasis modifier? With 4'6 meaning "building" (valid when Beanie guides Cuegan into a hut) and 34'6 meaning "home" when Beanie tries to describe Cueball's picture?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby anabatica » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:47 pm UTC

SinusPi wrote:You guys are too fast, and I'll probably be late to the party again, but allow me a little analysis:

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Purple interpunctions seem solved now - circles for questions, dashes for fullstops, double dashes for exclamations, no interpunction for heresy.
We also have half-circles, marked turquoise. Accents? Tones? They don't seem to break the flow of the sentences, so could just be diacritics.
For phrases, though - we have pretty confirmed red "water" and possibly orange "medicine". What are the greenish "ZL" (prepended with a hook the first time) and the "4'6" twice?
Note how the "water" got a 3 prepended, and so did the 4'6.
Conjecture: perhaps 3 is an emphasis modifier? With 4'6 meaning "building" (valid when Beanie guides Cuegan into a hut) and 34'6 meaning "home" when Beanie tries to describe Cueball's picture?


Interesting analysis and I agree with most of it.

I'll point out though that there's one use of 3 which isn't at the start of the word, though that doesn't necessarily mean your interpretation is wrong.

I also think "4U" (in front of "medicine" the first time) is almost definitely get/bring/fetch and " XC' " (response to Cuegan saying water) is likely yes.

edit: actually two non-starting uses of 3, I missed one that's got a mark on it
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby irino » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:51 pm UTC

b2bomberkrh wrote:Wow, I thought my post had been lost forever. At the time, it was the first suggesting there was something in the water, but of course, by now not only was that theory suggested by several others, but seems to have been totally wrong anyway. I was worried none of my posts were going to go through, so I wasn't even able to comment on the "Badger, badger, badger" reference, which cracked me up because it was the first thing I thought of also when I saw the long lines of repeated Beanish. I guess this is my test post to determine if I should still expect delays ongoing.

Yeah, that took a while. It seems we're in, though. I had the same problem with the translatebeanish site (why is this picture a link?)! I think it's interesting that all three of us (capnbuckle too) all had the same idea, which was probably an intended deception on GLR's part.
As for the issues that are being debated, I would like to state my position on each briefly: Beanie is drawing the sea level; Beanish is decipherable, but not easily so; to iisjreg, I'm okay with swimming; the shirt is great (especially for those moments when you are tackled by someone who understands); the cup moved outside the depicted slice of reality (in front or behind); and I think the Clock of the Long Now is going to end up in the story eventually.


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