1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Charm Quark » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:02 pm UTC

SinusPi wrote:ExplainONG...

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If she could get her words just a little higher up into that light I'm sure they would be much easier to understand :D

ETA: So the gist of it is that another sea has become connected to their sea, and water is flowing in? We've had some speculation along those lines; good work OTTers!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:03 pm UTC

Your sea does not stand alone!
There is another sea (north?) it.
... beyond the ...re.
It has become ... to yours.
But ... levels differ
...us ...er ...ows
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NetWeasel » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:03 pm UTC

SinusPi wrote:ExplainONG...

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Your sea does not stand alone....

In short, a dam (natural or manmade) burst somewhere, and your sea is flooding.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SinusPi » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:03 pm UTC

YOUR SEA DOES NOT STAND ALONE!
THERE IS ANOTHER SEA NEXT TO IT
BEYOND THE ##S##RE.
IT HAS BECAME BOUND TO YOURS
BUT ######## LEVELS DIFFER
AND THUS RIVER FLOWS
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby anabatica » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:05 pm UTC

SinusPi wrote:YOUR SEA DOES NOT STAND ALONE!
THERE IS ANOTHER SEA NEXT TO IT
BEYOND THE ##S##RE.
IT HAS BECAME # ### TO YOURS
BUT ######## LEVELS DIFFER
AND THUS WATER FLOWS


BEYOND THE SHORE

and possibly

IT HAS BECOME FUSED TO YOURS

Fairly boring and tame explanation, really.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:05 pm UTC

So it's probably the Beanies who have connected the two seas, that's why she was so embarrassed by the question.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby devrelm » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:06 pm UTC

SinusPi wrote:ExplainONG...

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Rosetta wrote:Your sea does not stand alone!

There is another sea next to it.

[...] beyond the [...] shore.

It has become [...]ed to yours.

B[...] levels differ

and thus [...]er flows
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby moody7277 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:06 pm UTC

Okay, hands up all those who predicted the Pillars of Hercules breaking down and the Mediterranean flooding. You get one pat on the back that you'll have to administer yourself.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Ebonite » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:07 pm UTC

anabatica wrote:
SinusPi wrote:YOUR SEA DOES NOT STAND ALONE!
THERE IS ANOTHER SEA NEXT TO IT
BEYOND THE ##S##RE.
IT HAS BECAME # ### TO YOURS
BUT ######## LEVELS DIFFER
AND THUS WATER FLOWS


BEYOND THE SHORE

and possibly

IT HAS BECOME FUSED TO YOURS

Fairly boring and tame explanation, really.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby CasCat » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:07 pm UTC

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SinusPi wrote:ExplainONG...

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I get:

Your sea does not stand alone.
There is (another?) sea .... ..
.... beyond th. ....re
It has become ...d to you..
... levels differ
... ..us (water?) flows


Ninja'd, with a better translation, too.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby KeonSkyfire » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:08 pm UTC

I feel like somehow this got crossed over with What If, what with all the "ocean draining" and "ocean flooding" things. Maybe they live on Mars, and a portal has started dumping water on them. (Is that heresy?)

Anyways, now we know, but do we know how Rosetta knows this?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby a_s_h_e_n » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:08 pm UTC

mscha wrote:So it's probably the Beanies who have connected the two seas, that's why she was so embarrassed by the question.


Or the Fortress-makers connected the seas but dammed them and that fell apart or the Beanies destroyed it.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby sford » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:09 pm UTC

Prediction: Rosetta gets a chalk board. (White board?)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:09 pm UTC

Last word third line is probably “shore”.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NetWeasel » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:11 pm UTC

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... levels differ, and thus water flows.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Moose Anus » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:11 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Caswallon » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:12 pm UTC

"YOUR SEA D[OE]S NOT S[OU,TA]IND ALONE!"
"THERE IS ANOTHER SEA N[EX,EAR]T [A,O,N] IT"
"[....] [BE]YOND THE[SE,IR] SHORE."
"IT HAS BEC[A,O]ME [FUS]ED TO YOURS"
"B[ECAUSE] LEVELS DIFFER"
"AND THUS [WAT,OV]ER FLOWS"

Letters in brackets are guesses.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:13 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby b2bomberkrh » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:13 pm UTC

Wow, only 10 minutes late getting out of my meeting, but it looks like everyone figured it out almost the same as I did. I only have one extra word I postulate:

Your sea does not stand alone
There is another sea next to it beyond the shore
It was become ???(fused) to yours
But THE levels differ
And thus water flows

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:14 pm UTC

This is making me think of something that came up before - the formation of the Strait of Gibraltar and the flooding of the Mediterranean.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:14 pm UTC

SinusPi wrote:YOUR SEA DOES NOT STAND ALONE!
THERE IS ANOTHER SEA NEXT TO IT
BEYOND THE ##S##RE.
IT HAS BECAME # ### TO YOURS
BUT ######## LEVELS DIFFER
AND THUS WATER FLOWS

Somebody (or several people) definitely called it. So, is this the answer? The answer to the question that started this whole thing? 42? What now?

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I was wondering whereabouts oop north you were located. I'll be moving even further north in a couple of months from the midlands - before that, I lived in the south east and considered anything above the capital as "the North" - living with a Mancunian quickly beat that misguided notion out of me.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby a_s_h_e_n » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:15 pm UTC

b2bomberkrh wrote:Wow, only 10 minutes late getting out of my meeting, but it looks like everyone figured it out almost the same as I did. I only have one extra word I postulate:

Your sea does not stand alone
There is another sea next to it beyond the shore
It was become ???(fused) to yours
But THE levels differ
And thus water flows

I can faintly see the "the" you're referring to
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BytEfLUSh » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:15 pm UTC

So, the questions are now being answered. End of Time soon?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NetWeasel » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:17 pm UTC

I think that's a J... JOINED to yours.

Which does not rule out the Portal theory....
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:18 pm UTC

HES wrote:
SinusPi wrote:YOUR SEA DOES NOT STAND ALONE!
THERE IS ANOTHER SEA NEXT TO IT
BEYOND THE ##S##RE.
IT HAS BECAME # ### TO YOURS
BUT ######## LEVELS DIFFER
AND THUS WATER FLOWS

Somebody (or several people) definitely called it. So, is this the answer? The answer to the question that started this whole thing? 42? What now?

No, it's only the beginning of the answer. How did they get connected? How far will the sea level rise? Can we stop it? And so on.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Moose Anus » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:19 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:20 pm UTC

HES wrote:
yappobiscuits wrote:It's Skiddaw, here in the Lake District. Fourth highest mountain in England (the top 10 highest in the country are all in the Lake District). It's a long ridge sort of shape, so when viewed from the south (end-on) it has a more typical mountain peak shape, but when viewed from the west (side-on) like here it has a flat-looking top with a shoulder to the north and a subsidiary peak (the "Little Man") to the south. You can see it from my house - I took this photo from the small hill next to my village, looking out east:

I was wondering whereabouts oop north you were located. I'll be moving even further north in a couple of months from the midlands - before that, I lived in the south east and considered anything above the capital as "the North" - living with a Mancunian quickly beat that misguided notion out of me.

Yes, having lived in London for a couple of years I learned that that was the general view of what constituted "The North"... whereas to me, anything south of Manchester is "The South" :P
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby b2bomberkrh » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:22 pm UTC

BytEfLUSh wrote:So, the questions are now being answered. End of Time soon?


It's certainly possible, but I think (and fervently hope) not. The night sky was too deliberate in setting up a (probably) future time, the map and the purpose of the survey team, the fact that Cueball are going to want to know how high the sea is going to get, what it means for their people, and so on, seems to indicate there's a lot still to come. But it's also just possible that there will intentionally be things unanswered. I'm already shocked at how far this has gone, given that prior to this, Randall only had to do three strips a week, and now, he's producing over 170 frames a week.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:26 pm UTC

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jjjdavidson wrote:Is it just me, or is the translator's accent getting less opaque? It's still smudgy, but the smudges seem less black.B Perhaps she's beginning to pick up Megball's accent already.

For the record, I believe I'm the one who first called her Farrah, but I prefer the name Rosetta, despite her hairdo.H

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jjjdavidson, I also see it as "Bear-due." :) I like the poem.

We could call her Hairpatia and cover a couple of bases. Or that could be her last name. Rosetta Hairpatia. I do like Rosetta.

Maybe in the next three pages you've already settles on a name, though.

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Why that enthusiasm/exclamation mark? It almost sounds like "They don't pose a threat" or even "We can crush them if we want/have to". What are her plans?

I thought that too, but it may just be that she is happy because she understood what Megan meant. (Sorta ninja'd on that, I think.)

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I see a lot of discussion about how they communicated numbers and what the speech means, but no one yet has talked about what it means that there are forty in Cuegan's group. Is it like a small tribe? A family group? Are we to assume they said farewell to everyone, or did they just take off an an epic journey?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SinusPi » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:26 pm UTC

b2bomberkrh wrote:I'm already shocked at how far this has gone, given that prior to this, Randall only had to do three strips a week, and now, he's producing over 170 frames a week.

Before he had to come up with a witty new strip thrice a week, now he additionally procures a few simple narration frames, too. I'd say most of the time goes into coming up with a new, interesting observation, inventing a facepalmating graph, or something - this is arguably easier.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Moose Anus » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:27 pm UTC

So given that we know an approximate latitude, what seas could they be talking about that are connected? Do American great lakes fit the description?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eliram » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:28 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
HES wrote:
SinusPi wrote:YOUR SEA DOES NOT STAND ALONE!
THERE IS ANOTHER SEA NEXT TO IT
BEYOND THE ##S##RE.
IT HAS BECAME # ### TO YOURS
BUT ######## LEVELS DIFFER
AND THUS WATER FLOWS

Somebody (or several people) definitely called it. So, is this the answer? The answer to the question that started this whole thing? 42? What now?

No, it's only the beginning of the answer. How did they get connected? How far will the sea level rise? Can we stop it? And so on.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby buffygirl » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:32 pm UTC

Eliram wrote:
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Gedeon wrote:
b2bomberkrh wrote:
Personally, I think it's obvious which question they will ask first, it's the one they asked the other Beanies as soon as they could. It's the one they set out to find the answer to. "Why is the sea rising?"


Neat4 prediction! :D


I've just realized: The sea (big) is rising because of tides. Their planet, like ours, has a moon. Unlike ours, there are a dozen or so moons. Once every 11,000 years, give or take, all the moons align in such a way as to cause an extremely high tide which gets tide-locked until the moons no longer align.

Yeah, I know that violates a few laws of physics, but so what :D

True, and with all moons aligned it's even slightly possible that we saw none of them during the night.

Okay, but we did see a meteor. That could actually be significant.
Suppose their world does NOT have a moon, or maybe it's earth, but the moon was long taken as an inter-stellar travelling platform by the advanced humans, and only few were left behind on the earth without a moon.
Anyway: no moon & no real tide for centuries.
But now, a large object is getting close to their planet, meteors appear, and the sea begins to rise...
Maybe the beanie telescopes will be aimed upwards soon.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lgw » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:32 pm UTC

I feel that my guess that they're on the Med and the basin is refilling still has a leg to stand on.

SBN wrote:They'll probably get the idea, but it isn't always that simple. My daughter is studying Korean, and apparently it has different number words depending on what is being counted. English has one, two, three and first, second, third, but if I remember right, in Korean you might have sqrgl dogs, and each has its own dish, so you have lgrsq dishes, or something like that. (Sorry, she's not available for me to get more clarification at the moment.)


I don't speak Japanese, but I understand it's the same, and perhaps more so. There was once even a TV game show where the contestants had to count various items using the correct counting words, and even native speakers would get confused frequently enough to make a game of it. The "counting words" are the base word for the number fused with a word tied to the shape or kind of thing being counted (e.g., long thin things different from heavy round things).

We actually do this in English to, but only in corner cases. The correct syntax is "twenty head of cattle": "twenty cattle" is wrong. I think there are three such cases in English, but I can't remember the other two. :cry: Any linguists out there?

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We use different bases and counting systems in our world, right now. Western languages break large numbers into 1000s (in English: ten, hundred, thousand; ten-thousand, hundred-thousand, million; ...), while Eastern languages often use 10000s (in Japanese: juu, hyaku, sen, man; juu-man, hyaku-man ...).


I personally find the system in India particularly confusing, as there are words for one hundred thousand (lakh) and ten million (crore), and you sometimes see numbers written 1,23,456 or 2,34,56,789. I find it difficult to mentally translate a house price of "78.53 Lakh" or "1.46 Crore" into millions, and have to write them down to get it. Funny that I still think in words, even for numbers. The latter number stubbornly refuses to look like "about twice" the former to me.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NoMouse » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:33 pm UTC

This is exciting. So the ultimate question has been practically answered, right? Of course there have been raised plenty of new questions along the way but still... it's a huge milestone.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby b2bomberkrh » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:33 pm UTC

Moose Anus wrote:So given that we know an approximate latitude, what seas could they be talking about that are connected? Do American great lakes fit the description?


Not unless they've become salt water lakes.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edfel » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:35 pm UTC

Take a sea the size of the mediterranean. What is the total inflow needed to make it go up by ~3q/week? What about large american lakes? What is the minimum size of a lake/sea for people not to see the other shore?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby WOnder93 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:35 pm UTC

Quest progress: 707/1136 pages

So I'm falling behind once again due to some Outside duties... I tried to read as much as I could today, but I'ill be gone for another few xips again :(

Anyway, I wrote a little userscript that might be useful to you in the Future (and to Blitzers, of course). With some seaish posts I often lose track of who wrote it (since the username and profile info is on top of the post). This script keeps the author's profile info in the upper right corner of your screen as you scroll along the post:
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ott-profile-hover.png

It (probably) works only with the default theme and it bumps badly if you have smooth scrolling, but otherwise it should work fine.

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In the OTT more and more poems and pictures are created; the very specific baobab shapes lead to discussions about Madagascar as a possible setting and much more interesting stuff happens that I don't remember. Man, I suck at these summaries... :?

Some pastposts I'd like to highlight:
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Edit: no, I'm not gonna build this. (But knowing the OTT, someone might...)

Great idea, I would definitely play this!

mscha wrote:Image

Beautiful!

BlitzGirl wrote:Image


Another one of BlitzGirls's Present Presents! Again as brilliant as the fist one!

Onward!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:36 pm UTC

lgw wrote:I feel that my guess that they're on the Med and the basin is refilling still has a leg to stand on.

Or the Dead Sea (another old theory), which somehow gets connected to the Mediterranean.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby buffygirl » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:37 pm UTC

Latent22 wrote:OK OTVO voting time!
Pick your favorite Cueball and Meagan Voice.
Results will be displayed here

To Vote just listen to the audio and quote my post. Leave only the top few lines of my post please which has a link back to this post where the results will be updated. Then state who you vote for and why.

Ok, I'm finding this really hard -- I think I tend to be biased toward longer samples (where I get a better feel for the voice). I would be happier making a decision if the different examples had the same content ....

just to make more work for everyone...


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