1190: "Time"

This forum is for the individual discussion thread that goes with each new comic.

Moderators: Moderators General, Prelates, Magistrates

hunjoh
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:28 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hunjoh » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:50 am UTC

charlie_grumbles wrote:
hunjoh wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:Actually you have to get (more than) deep enough to make the pressure balance. Otherwise it draws from the Atlantic into the basin. That has been calculated already to be 1km deep.

Could you explain this? I don't understand.

Ignore for a moment the salinity question (saline is denser than fresh). A siphon pumps water from the "short" side to the "long" side because of the extra water's weight in the longer "long" side tube. That is why you can't siphon uphill, only downhill. So, if you throw a siphon over a dam, water will run from the high water side of the dam to the low. If you make the siphon tubes longer (on either side) below the water line, it won't change that. And that is what you get if you just put the Med side of the siphon a bit below sea level.

So, to make this whole saline siphon work, you have to get the "high" side on the Med side. But it doesn't have to be high in altitude, just high in pressure. So make your tubes really long on both sides, so that on the Med side you reach heavier, denser water, but not on the Atlantic side. That gives you the higher pressure to overcome the difference in height since you have "lighter" water in the Atlantic. But it takes (apparently, I'm trusting the estimates given earlier) 1km of depth to get there. But you have to balance that on the Atlantic side as well.

Let's take your dam example. I get the "high" side of the pipe under the water behind the dam. Going deeper doesn't help, I just need to make sure that the siphon tube won't suck air. But on the "low" side, the lower I go, the more pressure I develop at the outlet.

Explanation: On the "high" side it doesn't matter how deep I go because the density inside the pipe and outside the pipe are the same. So there will never be a pressure differential. On the "low" side the density outside the pipe is lower than inside the pipe, therefore the lower the pipe extends the greater the differential pressure is. Am I missing something here?

User avatar
charlie_grumbles
Posts: 1004
Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:07 pm UTC
Location: Self Imposed Exile

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:51 am UTC

cryptoengineer wrote:Undoubtedly I'll be ninja'd here, but I have a lot of problems with this.

The Med has more evaporation than is made up by rain and inflowing rivers. Thus, sea water flows in from the Atlantic, and evaporates. Denser brine flows out along the floor of the Straits of Gibraltar. During WW2, submarines used this fact to drift silently through the Strait in both directions, with their engines off.

You are right about the siphon, but not the submarines. As it turns out, none of the German submarines that went in to the Med in the way you say ever made it back out. Not that it wouldn't work, but that they were all destroyed. I read the number somewhere but forget it. Not a small number, I think. Some were detected doing this.
Lurking. Watching. Thinking. Writing. Waiting.
-- Charlie Grumbles

User avatar
Selcouth
Posts: 79
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:38 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Selcouth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:55 am UTC

pelrigg wrote:
Someguy945 wrote:
CasCat wrote:Hmm. They're not pausing to refill water bottles. Seems a little foolish. Runners (or, probably, joggers, given the distance they need to cover) need a lot of water.


We're missing so much, it's entirely possible that they refilled.


It's also possible that they haven't taken a drink yet*, so their water bottles are still full from the 2nd Beanie tower.

*Which is also a problem. (However, there are stories about American Indians being able to travel a long ways without stopping for water. {Anybody seen or read "Tell Them Willie Boy Was Here**"?})

**Edit:
Sorry; "Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here" is the correct title.


They did also pick up extra water before the tower, so they probably don't need it yet.
"But I've never seen the Icarus story as a lesson about the limitations of humans... I see it as a lesson about the limitations of wax as an adhesive."

-Randall Munroe

User avatar
ucim
Posts: 6408
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:23 pm UTC
Location: The One True Thread

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:59 am UTC

How will these pipes deal with seismic forces? They either deform (and close up) or they remain rigid (forming a focal point for stress, which leads to earthquakes near the pipe, which can break the pipe, closing it up.

I'm still fighting off illness, so though I remember passing through some great ottifications, I can only remember the last one I heard (which was out of order, Angelastic's "Who will save the River Valley"). Kudos to all.

Audition coming soon.

Jose
Order of the Sillies, Honoris Causam - bestowed by charlie_grumbles on NP 859 * OTTscar winner: Wordsmith - bestowed by yappobiscuts and the OTT on NP 1832 * Ecclesiastical Calendar of the Order of the Holy Contradiction * Please help addams if you can. She needs all of us.

gga2
Posts: 27
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:40 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby gga2 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:00 am UTC

ONG

Image

Keep RUN.ing

User avatar
CasCat
Posts: 277
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 1:42 am UTC

MarathONG

Postby CasCat » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:01 am UTC

Spoiler:
Image


Ninja'd.

Running past Lucky's house.
BlitzGirl the Fast the First

a_s_h_e_n
Posts: 72
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:04 am UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby a_s_h_e_n » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:01 am UTC

Hope they won't be meeting Lucky 'round these parts
Tock: Look, son, it's bad enough wasting time without killing it.

User avatar
Fictioneer
Posts: 89
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:38 pm UTC
Location: Downtown Canada

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Fictioneer » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:04 am UTC

a_s_h_e_n wrote:Hope they won't be meeting Lucky 'round these parts


All the more reason to run more quickly through this stretch.

cryptoengineer
Posts: 129
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:58 am UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cryptoengineer » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:15 am UTC

charlie_grumbles wrote:
cryptoengineer wrote:Undoubtedly I'll be ninja'd here, but I have a lot of problems with this.

The Med has more evaporation than is made up by rain and inflowing rivers. Thus, sea water flows in from the Atlantic, and evaporates. Denser brine flows out along the floor of the Straits of Gibraltar. During WW2, submarines used this fact to drift silently through the Strait in both directions, with their engines off.

You are right about the siphon, but not the submarines. As it turns out, none of the German submarines that went in to the Med in the way you say ever made it back out. Not that it wouldn't work, but that they were all destroyed. I read the number somewhere but forget it. Not a small number, I think. Some were detected doing this.


I sit corrected.

One other wrinkle: There's a limit to how much you can do with a siphon. If the high point is such that the pressure there falls low enough (about minus 1 atmosphere = about 34 feet of water), the water will vaporize, creating a gas pocket and stopping the siphon. This may rule out using a seabed siphon through the strait, but I haven't run the numbers.

User avatar
Pikrass
Posts: 168
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:18 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Pikrass » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:16 am UTC

About the poll for the voices of the OTC, why don't we use a Condorcet method rather than a plurality system? That's a better voting system to reach consensus, and we wouldn't need multiple rounds. :wink:
Programmer and waiter devoted to Time.

Scripts for the One True Thread: heretic date to newpix converter; spoiler detector; multiquote; extra hide button for spoilers.
Code, links and instructions on Github.
Bundle (Firefox only)

User avatar
pelrigg
Posts: 946
Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:08 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby pelrigg » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:21 am UTC

CasCat wrote:Running past Lucky's house.


Fictioneer wrote:
a_s_h_e_n wrote:Hope they won't be meeting Lucky 'round these parts


All the more reason to run more quickly through this stretch.


pelrigg wrote: (There should be a pause of some sort at the cabin, I bet.)

Watches as the dealer scrapes my bet/prediction up, yet again. Uff da.
Knight Temporal of the One True Comic {bestowed by BlitzGirl: NP 1315}

We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocations of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things.

hunjoh
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:28 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hunjoh » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:26 am UTC

cryptoengineer wrote:One other wrinkle: There's a limit to how much you can do with a siphon. If the high point is such that the pressure there falls low enough (about minus 1 atmosphere = about 34 feet of water), the water will vaporize, creating a gas pocket and stopping the siphon. This may rule out using a seabed siphon through the strait, but I haven't run the numbers.

I doubt that will be a problem. The high point of the siphon is 300m deep, experiencing an ambient pressure of about 30 atm. And I think we are trying to get a pressure differential across the siphon greater than 0.2 atm, but I may have lost track of the current target.

User avatar
jjjdavidson
Posts: 652
Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:40 pm UTC
Location: Outside: The Ozarks, North America ─ OTTside: Lost in the 1400s

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jjjdavidson » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:34 am UTC

Does it bother anyone else that all the scenes are shifted slightly from their earlier versions? I have to wonder if Randall is deliberately making it harder for us to compare the current view to the upward journey, and that raises the question: What's going to be hiding in the grass that he doesn't want our skilled molpy-hunters to spot?
Don't worry. Feed squirpys.
Don't wait for me.
My OTC/OTT graphsMay include spoilers!
Helpful links: Time Wiki FAQrot-13 / Morse decoders
He won! He won! He won!
Knight Temporal. :) Ex-Loopist. :(

User avatar
ChronosDragon
Posts: 1852
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:42 am UTC
Location: [~]

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:36 am UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:Does it bother anyone else that all the scenes are shifted slightly from their earlier versions? I have to wonder if Randall is deliberately making it harder for us to compare the current view to the upward journey, and that raises the question: What's going to be hiding in the grass that he doesn't want our skilled molpy-hunters to spot?


I took it as he's deliberately showing us that there are bits between scenes we're not seeing. Also, it serves to throw us off a bit, and make the situation seem more intense, I think.
Image

User avatar
Fictioneer
Posts: 89
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:38 pm UTC
Location: Downtown Canada

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Fictioneer » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:37 am UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:Does it bother anyone else that all the scenes are shifted slightly from their earlier versions? I have to wonder if Randall is deliberately making it harder for us to compare the current view to the upward journey, and that raises the question: What's going to be hiding in the grass that he doesn't want our skilled molpy-hunters to spot?


I wish they were in one frame long enough for mscha's molpy-detection to get a good read!

User avatar
moody7277
Posts: 570
Joined: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:06 pm UTC
Location: Extreme south Texas

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby moody7277 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:37 am UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:Does it bother anyone else that all the scenes are shifted slightly from their earlier versions? I have to wonder if Randall is deliberately making it harder for us to compare the current view to the upward journey, and that raises the question: What's going to be hiding in the grass that he doesn't want our skilled molpy-hunters to spot?


A: All the molpies fleeing uphill from the flood.

Next three landmarks: weird tree, bop bush, prickly moly rock.
The story of my life in xkcdmafia:

Tigerlion wrote:Well, I imagine as the game progresses, various people will be getting moody.

User avatar
pelrigg
Posts: 946
Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:08 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby pelrigg » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:56 am UTC

moody7277 wrote:
jjjdavidson wrote:Does it bother anyone else that all the scenes are shifted slightly from their earlier versions? I have to wonder if Randall is deliberately making it harder for us to compare the current view to the upward journey, and that raises the question: What's going to be hiding in the grass that he doesn't want our skilled molpy-hunters to spot?


A: All the molpies fleeing uphill from the flood.

Next three landmarks: weird tree, bop bush, prickly moly rock.


Four: if you include the "Thousand Lifetimes" flutterby slope (M2115) in between the weird tree and the bop bush. That slope will be hard to run straight down. They'll end up going head over heels quickly. Of course, they could try to hop sideways down it.
Last edited by pelrigg on Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:57 am UTC, edited 1 time in total.
Knight Temporal of the One True Comic {bestowed by BlitzGirl: NP 1315}

We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocations of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things.

User avatar
Eternal Density
Posts: 5547
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:37 am UTC
Contact:

(I wish I could draw this)

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:56 am UTC

Cuegan will eventually find themselves cut off from the land and surrounded by rising water. But they will be rescued in the nick of time: airlifted out by a Firefly-class transport ship. Thus ends time.
Play the game of Time! castle.chirpingmustard.com Hotdog Vending Supplier But what is this?
In the Marvel vs. DC film-making war, we're all winners.

gga2
Posts: 27
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:40 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby gga2 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:00 am UTC

Where ONG they?

Image

User avatar
thunderrabbit
Posts: 12
Joined: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:09 am UTC
Location: Tokyo

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby thunderrabbit » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:00 am UTC

vanished!

DavidRa
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:57 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby DavidRa » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:01 am UTC

jjjdavidson wrote:So now I wonder: Has Randall Have the Beanies taken rebound into account in their shoreline forecasts?

I'm still about 6NP behind in my end-of-weekend ketchup, but putting two and two together here:

If we assume that petatons of water were removed over the course of years/centuries, and if we assume that the crust is indeed floating on the mantle and therefore rises and falls depending on the mass of the ground/water above it, and we assume the 500m of altitude difference is roughly correct do we perhaps come to some rather different SWAGs about things?

For example ... perhaps Chateau d'If is not going to be shoreline immediately - because it'll still be 50m? 100m? above the final shoreline (waiting for the underlying crust to sink into the mantle); thus - the castle is quite possibly quite safe even with hundred-metre waves?

(And arrgh ... spoilered by ninja-prevention attempts (aka "someone-posted-just-now-preview")!)

hunjoh
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:28 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hunjoh » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:03 am UTC

Does any one else see Lucky hiding behind that rock?

User avatar
thunderrabbit
Posts: 12
Joined: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:09 am UTC
Location: Tokyo

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby thunderrabbit » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:05 am UTC

hunjoh wrote:Does any one else see Lucky hiding behind that rock?


oh dang you're right! It was weeded before, now it's got some killer curves!

previously
Spoiler:
Image


edited N times while trying to figure out how you guys get images so quickly! esp xpatiate; it's beautiful!

xpatiate wrote:I think Lucky's catching some rays!

Spoiler:
Image
Last edited by thunderrabbit on Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:18 am UTC, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Fictioneer
Posts: 89
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:38 pm UTC
Location: Downtown Canada

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Fictioneer » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:05 am UTC

pelrigg wrote:They'll end up going head over heels quickly. Of course, they could try to hop sideways down it.


...Cue fell down and broke his crown
And Meg came tumbling after [/singsong]

User avatar
Moose Anus
Posts: 395
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:12 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Moose Anus » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:06 am UTC

Image
Lemonade? ...Aww, ok.

User avatar
nerdsniped
Posts: 159
Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 6:06 am UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby nerdsniped » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:07 am UTC

a_s_h_e_n wrote:Hope they won't be meeting Lucky 'round these parts

The mood they're in right now, I think Lucky had better hope not to meet *them*. I envision kick, thwap, "yelp", and they haven't even broken stride.
New to the Time thread? Click here!

"we are dangerously close to answers. Let's hope they lead to more questions..." -- HES

"Expect friskiness." -- keithl

User avatar
BlueCrab
Posts: 304
Joined: Mon May 20, 2013 12:10 am UTC
Location: Connecticut Yankee in Virginia

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlueCrab » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:09 am UTC

Another firstpost!
superluminal wrote:I finally had to delurk to say this:

What if Cuegan are just tourists and they don't know the local language? After all, many tourists like beaches and sandcastles... They might have been on the same beach before, but never wandered this far from their hotel.

(I liked this hypothesis more before Hairdo started talking...)

Hi there, superluminal! Your username sure made it hard to see if you'd been greeted yet... until I got the clever idea to check the dates on the post-list I was scrolling through :wink:

Your hypothesis is still valid - Hairdo could have learned their language in another part of the world, or from a traveller from other parts. Cuegan could be part of a tour group vacationing in the remotest places their civilization knows about, that would explain their lack of knowledge about local fauna and the steam bottle (ugh) at the same time.

(And since I'm way back on newpage 1127 (I think, could be 1128) you could already be in the present and have your answer by now!)

I'm pronouncing ‘Hairdo’ as ‘Haird-o’ in my head; it makes reading random magazine headlines a little surreal. :P
Wiki Wiki Wiki Wiki Grapevine, Grapevine

"Kvetcher-upper" -- one who complains while ketchupping? - CasCat


“Pretty much everything tastes better if you eat it in the shower.” - ggh

hunjoh
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:28 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hunjoh » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:10 am UTC

hunjoh wrote:Does any one else see Lucky hiding behind that rock?



User avatar
xpatiate
Posts: 160
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:02 am UTC
Contact:

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby xpatiate » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:10 am UTC

I think Lucky's catching some rays!

Image

Spoiler:
luckyontop.png


edit: multi-ninja'd

Look at the tiny differences in the vegetation as well. So if GLR does have a single big background layer, which he's taking snapshots of for each frame, he is going back and revising it for the return journey. The attention to detail in this thing is incredible.
Last edited by xpatiate on Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:13 am UTC, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
b2bomberkrh
Posts: 162
Joined: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:50 am UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby b2bomberkrh » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:11 am UTC

Yes, Lucky is on top of the rock, if you use the difference function on geekwagon back to frame 2182, you can see it.

ETA Ninja'd a little, but actually I think comparing to 2183 is best, cause it looks like Lucky is about to pounce on Cuegan.
Last edited by b2bomberkrh on Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:14 am UTC, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Rule110
Posts: 385
Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:14 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Rule110 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:12 am UTC

Question I've been meaning to bring up -- could the displacement (by gradual evaporation) of the mass of water in the Mediterranean after the straits were closed cause a shift in the earth's rotation axis? Could such a shift be big enough to account for the approximately 2.5 degree discrepancy between the map latitude (according to present day maps) and the apparent astronomical latitude?

ETA: Yeah, that's Lucky all right. Not behind the rock, but crouched across the top of it.
If you're lost you can look--and you will find me
Time after Time...

User avatar
yappobiscuits
Posts: 2838
Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:41 am UTC
Location: The Sea
Contact:

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:15 am UTC

Oh chirp! Everyone's favourite keyboard is back!
Image
OTTscars results Pt. 2 coming... eventually, but not from me. Seeking writer.
English Instrumentalist Waterottermolpy
Mighty Troubadour of the OTT
Image

User avatar
b2bomberkrh
Posts: 162
Joined: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:50 am UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby b2bomberkrh » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:17 am UTC

Rule110 wrote:Question I've been meaning to bring up -- could the displacement (by gradual evaporation) of the mass of water in the Mediterranean after the straits were closed cause a shift in the earth's rotation axis? Could such a shift be big enough to account for the approximately 2.5 degree discrepancy between the map latitude (according to present day maps) and the apparent astronomical latitude?

ETA: Yeah, that's Lucky all right. Not behind the rock, but crouched across the top of it.


Without even doing a rough order of magnitude calculation, I would say definitely not. The mass of the Mediterranean is a tiny fraction of the mass of the Earth. Even the tallest mountains on the planet are basically invisible on a globe drawn to scale. The Earth is HUGE compared to the features on it's surface.

User avatar
CasCat
Posts: 277
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 1:42 am UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby CasCat » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:17 am UTC

So our duo is going to charge headlong right at a napping keyboard???

What a time to have to

MOLPY DOWN. <yawn>
BlitzGirl the Fast the First

User avatar
pelrigg
Posts: 946
Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:08 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby pelrigg » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:18 am UTC

thunderrabbit wrote:
hunjoh wrote:Does any one else see Lucky hiding behind that rock?


oh dang you're right! It was weeded before, now it's got some killer curves!

previously
Spoiler:
http://geekwagon.net/projects/xkcd1190/?frame=2182


I'm thinking it's closer to: Lucky is ON the rock.

I wish I could see how this works out in OTC Time but I MUST coma for work tomordip. So I'll miss the breathless anticipation. (Rather I'll have about 15-16 hours of it, coma plus work plus drive-time. Oh bother.)
And I'll probably miss the NP1190 celebration, also. heavy sigh.

Molpy Down.
Wait Quickly.
Coma Out.
Knight Temporal of the One True Comic {bestowed by BlitzGirl: NP 1315}

We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocations of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things.

User avatar
nsub1
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:47 am UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby nsub1 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:19 am UTC

AHH SO MUCH HAPPENING!! But all I can offer is version 0.10 of Beanish Serif! All 23 base characters (22 + c) are in there! Next task: kerning and standardization, then (gasp!) vowels!

User avatar
k.bookbinder
Posts: 975
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:17 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:28 am UTC

Rule110 wrote:Question I've been meaning to bring up -- could the displacement (by gradual evaporation) of the mass of water in the Mediterranean after the straits were closed cause a shift in the earth's rotation axis? Could such a shift be big enough to account for the approximately 2.5 degree discrepancy between the map latitude (according to present day maps) and the apparent astronomical latitude?

ETA: Yeah, that's Lucky all right. Not behind the rock, but crouched across the top of it.


I don't know that Lucky is crouched on the rock. Rather, Lucky appears as my meowpies do when they feel the need to drape themselves over some books, or perhaps on the back of the couch. To me, it appears as though Lucky is sprawled over the top of the rock, perhaps enjoying the sun.
"HAL9000" This thread is a goldmine for signatures.
"StratPlayer" All in all, that sand paper rubbed me the wrong way.
"charlie_grumbles" The secret of the geeks. "Copy, Borrow, Steal, Succeed"
"ucim" There's a forestful of treeish people here.

Image Welcome! Confused? See here.

User avatar
chem1190c
Posts: 169
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:59 am UTC

Re: (I wish I could draw this)

Postby chem1190c » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:31 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:Cuegan will eventually find themselves cut off from the land and surrounded by rising water. But they will be rescued in the nick of time: airlifted out by a Firefly-class transport ship. Thus ends time.



FIREFL-ONG?
Image

Spoiler:
Name's Captain Reynold's, Ma'am
f9150cc0e47a80403aef87a24938bdf9695f6404298dbde1e487b39a53123123.png
/at least I'm not a bowl of petunias/
\\current member of the post-pre-hat-queue-mob-mob-mob\\

hunjoh
Posts: 67
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:28 pm UTC

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hunjoh » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:33 am UTC

yappobiscuits wrote:Oh chirp! Everyone's favourite keyboard is back!
Spoiler:
Image

I think that it may be a black keyboard.....
Image
Last edited by hunjoh on Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:17 pm UTC, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
poxic
Eloquently Prismatic
Posts: 4712
Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:28 am UTC
Location: Left coast of Canada

Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby poxic » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:44 am UTC

There have been comparisons between Time and animation/film. I'm starting to think of it more like "life":

- You can't rewind to an earlier scene (from the comic itself). You can't fast forward to a later one. You can't fiddle with the running of it at all.

- If you missed some of it, you have to hope someone has a recording. In fact, it would be difficult to experience even half of it directly -- to know the whole story, you must rely on other people.

- Even then, the various repositories might be getting out of sync. If the comic goes for years, archivists will likely come and go. There may be no "one true history" by the time we're done with this (if we ever are).

I'm increasingly impressed by the comic, the longer it runs. It's as though it has gone so far beyond "meta" that it's wrapped around on itself and become a real thing, except not, but then, but yeah.
All empires fall.
Don't look back.
- The Secret Knots


Return to “Individual XKCD Comic Threads”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests