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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Pikrass » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:57 pm UTC

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Pikrass wrote:It's again Japanese
The first is kami-no-ku
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I've been studying Japanese for the past year or so. Can you come be my personal tutor? :cry:

I've been studying for 3 and a half years, but the first and a half were mostly dedicated to following Heisig's Remembering The Kanji (well, not exactly, I used the French translation by Yves Maniette). So I didn't learn much vocabulary at first. RTK is great to get habits with kanjis, but you can learn them without it.

Then my method consist roughly of "wherever I can put Japanese in my life, I do it". :D There's a guy who became fluent in 18 months with an extreme version of this method. I'm not nearly as good though. :mrgreen:
But what I did was setting Facebook, Google, ... all of the sites I'm using regularly to display in Japanese, if they allow it. I also changed the setting on my computer, which is really easy if you use GNU/Linux (for Windows, I think you have to buy the whole system again :roll: ). At first you get lost and want to turn everything back to your mother tongue, but you eventually get used to it and learn a bunch of words.
And finally I made a rule to only listen to Japanese songs on my mp3 player. That's quite hard to find Japanese songs I like though, so sometimes I don't respect the rule because I'm tired of the few Japanese songs I have.

However I love Japanese animated movies. I have a bunch of them by Ghibli, Mamoru Hosoda, Satoshi Kon, Makoto Shinkai... and I often watch them at night. I found a website with Japanese subtitles for Japanese series and movies (and I can tell you that was hard to find). Since then I only watch them with these subs.
I also have some animated series, though I don't watch them again as often as movies because there's more commitment, if I watch one episode I have to watch them all. :D It's also more difficult to find Japanese subtitles for them. I still managed to watch two series with only Japanese subtitles, and without having watched them previously. It took me about 40 minutes to watch a 20 minutes episode, but that really helped with vocabulary.

I also imported two games in Japanese: 二ノ国 (Ni no kuni) on DS a few years ago, which is a great J-RPG with cut scenes from Ghibli. It's sold along with a beautiful 350-page book, with some short stories with furigana in it. A good investment for my Japanese level, really.
The second game is 大神伝 / おおかみでん / Ōkami-den, the sequel of Okami for DS. I received it last month and I'm only at the beginning. There are less furigana than in 二ノ国 and a good deal of dialogue.

Last but not least, to learn grammar, Tae Kim's guide to Japanese is a must.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:57 pm UTC

Zorin_75 wrote:
melmel wrote:Has the title text changed to "..." again or is it just me? I tried to scroll back a couple pages to see if anyone else had caught this, but I didn't see anything.

We're not following the comic that closely, you know...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:00 pm UTC

WakONG everyone up

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ETA: is that the raft scraping on the shore?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:02 pm UTC

taixzo wrote:WakONG everyone up
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ETA: is that the raft scraping on the shore?

"Wake up everybody", because crashing into the shore clearly isn't enough of a hint.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TimeLurker » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:05 pm UTC

I find this funny/odd.

Megan's thoughts: We're heading for land. Oh well, let's build a sandcastle.
Cueball's Thoughts: :shock: We're heading for land! OMR, wake everyone up!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:06 pm UTC

I am surprised the collision didn't damage the sandcastle.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NetWeasel » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:06 pm UTC

HES wrote:
taixzo wrote:ETA: is that the raft scraping on the shore?

"Wake up everybody", because crashing into the shore clearly isn't enough of a hint.

I want to put that in my sig... BUT I CAN'T!!!!
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Re: Awake already?

Postby Montov » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:10 pm UTC

nerdsniped wrote:So after the day, week, and month they've had, Cuegan are the first ones awake?!?

I can only assume that they are not fully human, but are in fact (Niven) Protectors. That would explain their endurance. It would also explain why there's nothing romantic going on (sigh). It would raise the question of why they had any trouble with Lucky, but perhaps Lucky is a keyboard protector.


I've thought about it too, and I think they have a jet lag because of their journey. Cuegan will have a terrible afternoon I suppose.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:14 pm UTC

NetWeasel wrote:
HES wrote:
taixzo wrote:ETA: is that the raft scraping on the shore?

"Wake up everybody", because crashing into the shore clearly isn't enough of a hint.

I want to put that in my sig... BUT I CAN'T!!!!

Hmmm. You CAN if you translate it to beanie first.

@nerdsniped. Liked the ringworld reference. Wouldn't explain the night sky, tho.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:16 pm UTC

NetWeasel wrote:
HES wrote:
taixzo wrote:ETA: is that the raft scraping on the shore?

"Wake up everybody", because crashing into the shore clearly isn't enough of a hint.

I want to put that in my sig... BUT I CAN'T!!!!


You could put it in your sig, in a spoiler, with a note that this spoils events past NP 1249.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:21 pm UTC

taixzo wrote:
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NetWeasel wrote:
HES wrote:
taixzo wrote:ETA: is that the raft scraping on the shore?

"Wake up everybody", because crashing into the shore clearly isn't enough of a hint.

I want to put that in my sig... BUT I CAN'T!!!!

You could put it in your sig, in a spoiler, with a note that this spoils events past NP 1249.

Or, rather than overcomplicate things, I can simply accept the sentiment (though I like charlie's beanish idea)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NetWeasel » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:25 pm UTC

HES wrote:
taixzo wrote:WakONG everyone up

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"Wake up everybody", because crashing into the shore clearly isn't enough of a hint.

made ya something... (a little seaish)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Fictioneer » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:30 pm UTC

Molpy up!

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Could that be their original bucket on the far right of where they made the new sandcastle? Reclaimed somewhere along the way? Or its twin?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:30 pm UTC

NetWeasel wrote:
HES wrote:
taixzo wrote:ETA: is that the raft scraping on the shore?

"Wake up everybody", because crashing into the shore clearly isn't enough of a hint.

I want to put that in my sig... BUT I CAN'T!!!!

I can't resist.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby nerdsniped » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:32 pm UTC

charlie_grumbles wrote:@nerdsniped. Liked the ringworld reference. Wouldn't explain the night sky, tho.

I wasn't actually thinking of Ringworld. Did you read Protector (the novel)? Brennan could have left Tree-of-Life somewhere in Sol system, where eventually... oh it's too early for me to spin scenarios. But anyway, we know they're on Earth from Rosetta's maps, night sky aside.

Hmm, I suppose they could be on map-of-Earth. But that still wouldn't explain the sky, as you say.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Whizbang » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:34 pm UTC

taixzo wrote:WakONG everyone up

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ETA: is that the raft scraping on the shore?


A little slow, Cueball, aren't you? I'm pretty sure the lookout is supposed to call "land ho!" long before the ship gets beached.

Waking up to a raft falling to pieces beneath you isn't pleasant, I assume. The others should leave Cueball and Megan on the little island to fend for themselves (after they plunder it for any food/water/supplies).

Seriously, they may not have fallen asleep on the watch, but they might as well have. They get points for coming back and getting everyone going, but lose some for negligence on duty.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby nerdsniped » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:36 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:A little slow, Cueball, aren't you? I'm pretty sure the lookout is supposed to call "land ho!" long before the ship gets beached.

Waking up to a raft falling to pieces beneath you isn't pleasant, I assume. The others should leave Cueball and Megan on the little island to fend for themselves (after they plunder it for any food/water/supplies).

Seriously, they may not have fallen asleep on the watch, but they might as well have. They get points for coming back and getting everyone going, but lose some for negligence on duty.

Raising a critical question: is this some little soon-to-be-submerged island, or one of the present-day Mediterranean islands, or might they have reached the main slope up into France? Does anyone have a clear enough picture of what's going on to hazard a guess?
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Re: Awake already?

Postby Random832 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:40 pm UTC

Montov wrote:I've thought about it too, and I think they have a jet lag because of their journey. Cuegan will have a terrible afternoon I suppose.


There's no basis to think they've crossed time zones. The entire comic has taken place in the present-day Central Europe Time zone. (And not even the crazy parts of it that extend west into Spain and east into Poland)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hunjoh » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:42 pm UTC

charlie_grumbles wrote:
b2bomberkrh wrote:Why have several people talked about them being nomads, or having a nomadic existence? I have seen a lot of evidence that the opposite in fact is true. They feel more to me like some of the tribes of Papua New Guinea that have been found relatively recently tucked into a quiet valley with almost no knowledge of the world around. Cuegan at one point commented that they had gone farther than they ever had before, at a point relatively close to home, which means the tribe certainly hasn't moved in at least 20 years. Furthermore, they seem to have no knowledge of the rest of the Med basin, the people who live elsewhere, except for their neighbors the hill people, the flora and fauna that exist only a short distance away. Also, the village doesn't appear to have any means of transportation consistent with a nomadic culture, no beasts of burden, no geographical knowledge of the world, etc.

If they are from North Africa it would still be consistent. They may have extensive knowledge of country to the South, but not to the Northeast. It was speculated earlier that they might be salt miners supplied by caravan from the South. So, as you say, their encampment might be relatively permanent, but still part of a nomadic society. It is one thing to be isolated and stationary in a jungle environment, but another in a desert. While they could get water from the rivers, food is the big issue in such a place. This is consistent with the recent history of North Africa.

In Baja California they have an interesting fishing system. They drop off people and supplies in remote fishing camps by boat. These camps are resupplied by boat, and the fish caught are collected by boat. These fishermen probably have no idea what lies inland from them, and the terrain is often rugged enough to discourage exploration. And the land would be owned by "hill people" who would discourage trespassing. These fish camps make use of driftwood and any scavenged material at hand because it saves them from having to ship it in by boat.

So Cuegan and the 40 could be some sort of seasonal outpost of a larger society located elsewhere. Cueball played on that rock as a kid because his family comes here every year during the season. They don't have a lot of material possessions and technology here because this is just the camp, not home. But they know about the technology because back at home they have it and use it.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hamjudo » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:43 pm UTC

Shouting "Land" repeatedly lets groggy cueganites realize that they've run aground. Otherwise, they may think it is a giant mulpyraptor attack, or whatever it is they were just dreaming about.

If I were asleep on the weak raft cluster, I would assume that any major change in motion was the cluster breaking up as it went over the rapids on the way into the eastern sea. Someone shouting "LAND" would actually be quite reassuring.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:45 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NetWeasel » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:46 pm UTC

nerdsniped wrote:Raising a critical question: is this some little soon-to-be-submerged island, or one of the present-day Mediterranean islands, or might they have reached the main slope up into France? Does anyone have a clear enough picture of what's going on to hazard a guess?

No way to tell yet. I guess we'll just have to...

well, you know.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:51 pm UTC

nerdsniped wrote:
Whizbang wrote:A little slow, Cueball, aren't you? I'm pretty sure the lookout is supposed to call "land ho!" long before the ship gets beached.

Waking up to a raft falling to pieces beneath you isn't pleasant, I assume. The others should leave Cueball and Megan on the little island to fend for themselves (after they plunder it for any food/water/supplies).

Seriously, they may not have fallen asleep on the watch, but they might as well have. They get points for coming back and getting everyone going, but lose some for negligence on duty.

Raising a critical question: is this some little soon-to-be-submerged island, or one of the present-day Mediterranean islands, or might they have reached the main slope up into France? Does anyone have a clear enough picture of what's going on to hazard a guess?


I don't think the whole Mediterranean basin could have filled yet; it's only been one day! I think this is one of the hills that will shortly go away.

Valarya wrote:Aww, look. Megan's hair has grown. :wink:


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:57 pm UTC

@mikro2nd - treeish "Lollipop" ottification!
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nerdsniped wrote:Raising a critical question: is this some little soon-to-be-submerged island, or one of the present-day Mediterranean islands, or might they have reached the main slope up into France? Does anyone have a clear enough picture of what's going on to hazard a guess?
Well, if they are two hundred miles from Chateau d'WhatIf, and the surge is ten knots in the right direction, they could be there overnight. But that would be too easy, story wise.

Nonetheless, they certainly see something (which we are not yet being shown). Perhaps the answer will come if we ....

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Jokern » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:59 pm UTC

Last minute prediction: They have not crashed into land, they have crashed into a sea of debris miles wide between them and land.

ETA: And i was so wrong... has the water stopped rising?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:00 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby a_s_h_e_n » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:01 pm UTC

By GLR, I'm gone for three days and all this goes down ...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NetWeasel » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:05 pm UTC

nerdsniped wrote:Raising a critical question: is this some little soon-to-be-submerged island, or one of the present-day Mediterranean islands, or might they have reached the main slope up into France? Does anyone have a clear enough picture of what's going on to hazard a guess?
A related question:
On the way up the first time, Cuegan encountered long patches of relatively level areas -- would it make sense if those areas were the same elevations of sills in other parts of the Med?

Edit: Also, Megan's got the map. I wonder if we might get a look at it. I'm guessing no.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Ebonite » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:07 pm UTC

Prediction: they step off onto dry land, and find they are where all of the beanies have collected. The crowd parts, and Rosetta is standing there, surprised to see that Cueball and Megan have returned, having rescued all of their people. Megan picks up a stick, walks over to Rosetta, and thwaks her across the head.

Thus ends time.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Wildhound » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:08 pm UTC

Tie the Castle Cruiser down you crazy Cueganites!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Whizbang » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:09 pm UTC

So, are we merely on the next day, or have a few/many days past and the basin is now more or less filled?

If so, I call that Cueball is really Jack, and Curly is really Hurley. Megan is obviously Kate, and Hairdo is Ben

The Beanie with the funny hat outside of the town is Jacob.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:09 pm UTC

Do the Cuegan know how high up they are, or where they are with respect to safe ground? The sea is presumably still filling up; it might be foolish to stray too far just yet, unless they know they won't be trapped.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby fatness » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:09 pm UTC

Right about now would be a good time to use that rope and secure the Geraft to the trees...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:10 pm UTC

For my 500th post, I bring you all another Present Present:

BytEfLUSh wrote:How come I missed that "Still Alive" OTTification?! Brilliant, I love it! Did anyone do it for Portal 2?

ETA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVVZaZ8yO6o
ETA2: "Now I only want Cuegan!", you can't unhear it now :)


Well, here you go. This one is sung by the sea, to us and Cuegan:

Told to Run
Based on Want You Gone by Jonathan Coulton


Spoiler:
Well here we are again
Down by the salty beaches
Remember when they tried
to hold me back?
I ate your sandcastle
Except the highest towers
And all your speculations:
"Baconbabiesonice"

You want to see Sea rising?
GLR's work is done
You used to wait for it
but now you're only told to run.

She is a lot like you
(Maybe not quite as curious).
But now Rosetta's waiting high, and dry
You now need LaPetite
Because this place is ending
If you don't leave right now
the Sea will happen to you!

You've got a homebuilt life raft
Floating under the sun
You used to wait for it
but now you're only told to run.

Goodbye, to all of this
All of the land you once knew
It would be funny, if it weren't so sad
But now it's been replaced
You must find your new home now
Perhaps if you survive
then you'll stop feeling so bad.

Go start a life together!
Question 'till Time is done.
We used to wait for it
but now we're only told to run.
Now we're only told to run.
Now we're only told to run.
BlitzGirl the Next
BlitzGirl the Fast
Knight Temporal
Bringer of the Light

Useless utilities: Newpix clock for Mac OS X, Newpix clock for Ubuntu

Sandgarden - a relaxing experience for Time Waiters

Best wishes to GnomeAnne, ColletArrow and january1may! One day you will all join me in the Present!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:12 pm UTC

And incase no one noticed the sub text has changed again.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:14 pm UTC

Molpy up! 2000 posts, yay!
Spoiler:
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Sandcastle 2.0! :D
And new wowtrees! :D
(That's Bunny and Littlest Bangs also in the frame.)
@mikro2nd: Awefulsome "Good Ship Lollipop"!
@taixzo: Yay, I'm loving all these JoCo ottifications!

TimeLurker wrote:I'd like to see Bruce Willis as Cueball. The age is all wrong though. Can we get a young Bruce? :D

I think Joseph Gordon-Levitt is the man you want to talk to...
(Would that also make the Loopists happy?)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Ashaman » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:16 pm UTC

NetWeasel wrote:Edit: Also, Megan's got the map. I wonder if we might get a look at it. I'm guessing no.

I'd like a look at it too, but suspect we won't see it. But the map is suddenly a lot less useful, since it mostly describes the newly wetted sea floor. Our crew seems to have no tools for dead-reckoning while drifting, and can't keep track of landmarks after they are submerged. They probably have only the vaguest guess as to where they are currently.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby capnbuckle » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:18 pm UTC

mikrit wrote:
moody7277 wrote:Can't believe I missed a chirping astronomy frame while comaing. I recognized Taurus and the Pleiades right away. The date sounds about right too (~week after the Long Night).

And as we all know, the Pleiades are Randall's favorite astronomical entity. A good omen! The stars are favorable. Or at least favorite.


Yes, I did recognize the Pleiades...but where I screwed up was confusing Perseus for Lyra and Hercules. It has clearly been too long since I've gotten out from under the light pollution for stargazing. :(

(EDIT: It might also have been a little wishful thinking, too. I also wanted to pinpoint the exact celestial pole and was hoping we would be able to do that! :P )

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Ximenez » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:21 pm UTC

Yay, BlitzGirl! Congrats for your 2,000!

(But you could have waited for the OTT's 50,000! Then it would have been something! :wink: )
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NetWeasel » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:21 pm UTC

....aaaannd

Landmark HO!
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