1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:37 am UTC

Chronosdragon, is there something wrong with the alpha layer on your clock or is Firefox just not parsing the clock right?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby karhell » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:58 am UTC

Molpy up !

ChronosDragon wrote:Question for the speakers of languages with gender: do you notice when people/foreigners get genders wrong? What would that be equivalent to, roughly, in English?

French speaker here. The wrong genders are pretty noticeable but usually no big deal. It's actually pretty common when faking an English accent to swap a few genders ^^
As for the rule of thumb, an unaccented 'e' at the end of a word doesn't necessarily mean the word is feminine. "Moustique" (mosquito), for instance is masculine (and actually bugged me for quite a few yips).

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Neil_Boekend wrote:Chronosdragon, is there something wrong with the alpha layer on your clock or is Firefox just not parsing the clock right?
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Yup, noticed that too on opera 12.16, so it's not just firefox mustarding up.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:21 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:29 am UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:Chronosdragon, is there something wrong with the alpha layer on your clock or is Firefox just not parsing the clock right?
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Yes, it is broken, it m*starded up when I upgraded my PHP version a while back and I haven't had the occasion to fix it since. I really want to reconstruct it in a decent language, so I have been avoiding the project for a while. It's not too noticeable, so I've not been overly worried about it.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:33 am UTC

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Neil_Boekend wrote:Chronosdragon, is there something wrong with the alpha layer on your clock or is Firefox just not parsing the clock right?
Ooh, Pope.
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Yes, it is broken, it m*starded up when I upgraded my PHP version a while back and I haven't had the occasion to fix it since. I really want to reconstruct it in a decent language, so I have been avoiding the project for a while. It's not too noticeable, so I've not been overly worried about it.

Most people wouldn't notice it since most people don't use the black layout.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:05 am UTC

Whew! OK, think I lost the Outside for a bit. Time for some ketchup from NP 1828-1831:

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taixzo wrote:When would we do it? Summer would make sense, but what's summer in the Northern Hemisphere is winter for our OTTers in Australia.

If weather's a concern, spring/autumn might be a good compromise (horrible weather for everyone, yay ! ^^)
I'm more concerned about the time. There's OTTers all across the globe, and night might deter some from trying


Well. I'm often up in the middle of the night and I know BlitzGirl is too, so that's one vote doing it after midnight PST.

Oh, forgot to say that I love the Aerosmith otty, Dracomax!

And Minim, congrats on 800!

StratPlayer wrote:Hi all! Thank you for the warm welcome back from the basement!

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You know, it was really nice popping back upstairs to say "Hi" after being in the basement for so long. But I do have to say that the Timeiversary has been kind of emotion-filled for me -- fond memories of the Time that was mixed with a fresh rekindling of sadness over T** E**. It has led me to a bit of introspection, and as usual -- introspection always leads me to a sense of amazement over how inter-connected the comic, the OTT, and EVERYTHING is.

I mean, like, as an obvious example, the GLR, in his wisdom, chose "1190" as the perfect number to use for the number of the OTC. This is clearly no coincidence.

Here's why:


1. "1190" is also the frequency in kHz of AM 1190 WOWO in Fort Wayne, Indiana, which has broadcast at this frequency since March, 29 1941. Notice how the 'March 29th' corresponds to the period of live unveiling of the OTC. Uh-huh -- I know! But there's even more.

2. Fort Wayne, Indiana is also the birthplace of Shelley Long. Did you know that Shelley's current project is called "A Matter of Time", which is now in post-production? See???? But there's more!

3. Shelley Long is also most remembered for playing the role of "Diane Chambers' in the Emmy-Award winning TV sitcom "Cheers," which ran from 1982 to 1993. What did all the OTTers do during TIME when the ONG rang? Yep -- cheer. Clearly this is related. But there's more.

4. The well-known theme song for "Cheers" is called "Where Everybody Knows Your Name." Does that NOT sound like the OTT? Well, except we all know each other's forum user ID and not actual names, but that sense of 'belonging' to a place where you're welcome is clearly the same. Obviously the GLR knew exactly what he was doing. But there's more!

5. "Where Everybody Knows Your Name" was co-written by Gary Portnoy and Judy Hart Angelo. Gary Portnoy also co-wrote the songs "I'll Never Get Enough of You," and "This is Forever. I'm sure everyone can see how these blatantly relate to the OTT. But wait -- there's still more:

6. Gary Portnoy also co-wrote the song "Say Goodnight". Besides being an obvious reference to the night of stars during the OTC, this song was recorded by Dolly Parton on her 1980 album Dolly, Dolly, Dolly. Among her many, many other songs and albumns, Dolly Parton also wrote the song "I Will Always Love You", made famous by Whitney Houston, and CLEARLY a reference to how the OTTers feel about the OTC and this thread. But there's even more:

7. In 1966, Dolly Parton married Carl Thomas Dean -- they've been married ever since. Carl stays out of the limelight, but some facts are known about him. Like, did you know that he was born in 1942 in Nashville, Tennessee. well, guess who just named Nashville to be the "The South's Red Hot Town"? That's right -- TIME magazine. See? No way that's a coincidence. But there's more!

8. Did you know that Nashville is also home to our esteemed OTTer Valarya? See how the GLR keeps intertwining this!?!? Of course he wouldn't have set this up so that Dolly Parton's husband was born in a town without an OTTer, now would he? Of course not! But there's even more.

9. Relating to the link of "Where Everybody Knows Your Name," did you know that Valarya's real name is "Christina?" Well, that can't be a coincidence -- just think about the fact that the singer Christina Milan recorded an album called "It's About Time". Yes, indeed -- it IS about TIME, isn't it??? Spooky, huh!? But there's more!

10. "Christina" is one of many given names that can be shortened to "Chris". Another one is "Christopher". Well, did you know that The GLR, Randall Munroe, graduated from Christopher Newport University in 2006 with a degree in Physics? Amazing how it's all inter-related, isn't it? But wait, there's STILL more!

11. "Christopher" is ALSO the real name of the OTTer StratPlayer -- ME!!! Now that's ANOTHER connection to the OTT as a place where "Everybody Knows Your Name". And, amazingly, there's more...

12. I chose the user name "StratPlayer" because I play a Stratocaster, the guitar created by Leo Fender in 1954. Well, guess who named the guitar a "Stratocaster"? Not Leo -- it was a guy named Don Randall. Yep -- "Randall"! You want to tell me THAT's a coincidence!?!?! But there's still more!

13. One of the players most associated with the Strat was Jimi Hendrix. He was an iconic, amazing player, and I have always been a fan. My favorite piece by him is the song "Machine Gun" from the live album "Band of Gypsies". Jimi's playing on that song is just phenomenal. It was recorded New Year's Eve, 1969-1970 at the Fillmore in New York, but guess when the album was released? March 25th, 1970. March 25th! The same day the OTC began! You seeing the pattern here?!?! But there's more...

14. Jimi is remembered for a lot of things, and I love "Machine Gun," but his rendition of "The Star Spangled Banner" live at Woodstock in 1969 is probably one of the first things people think of. What about this -- you know who was also famous for performing "The Star Spangled Banner?" A singer named Lucy Munroe. You read that right -- MUNROE! Wait, there's more!

15. Woodstock in 1969 was held near Woodstock, New York. Besides Hendrix, Woodstock featured many other artists including Ten Years After, who recorded the album, "A Space in Time" in 1971. Yes -- A Space in TIME. This album with the obvious xkcd 1190 reference also featured the classic song, "I'd Love to Change the World". Well, I think there's little doubt that xkcd 1190 -- "Time" changed the world of the OTTer's. But there's STILL more:

16. Ten Years after was fronted by guitarist, Alvin Lee, and their version of "I'm Going Home at Woodstock shows off some his blazing guitar playing. I'd think most of the OTTers think of going to visit this thread, where "Everybody Knows Your Name," as a bit of 'going home.' Well, unfortunately, Alvin Lee passed away last year in March, and he was remembered in many publications, including...

TIME Magazine, in This Obituary in the issue dated March 25, 2013 -- the very same day that xkcd 1190 "Time" began.

Yes, you read that right -- "TIME" magazine, from March 25th, 2013. :shock: :shock: :shock:

The GLR does indeed move in mysterious ways!


It truly is ALL Related!!!

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I don't know whether to applaud, or cry tears of joy to have these back again, Christopher. I guess a little of both.

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Guess I'm one of toxip's 10000, then. Thanks for the info ^^

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And it's treeish seeing Valarya again. Val, did you hit 900 recently? well, congrats no matter when it was!

OK, been a long dip of fighting raptors and zombies. I gotta coma.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TheMinim » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:46 am UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:And Minim, congrats on 800!


Thanks! And exactly the same to you!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NoMouse » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:54 am UTC

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ChronosDragon wrote:Question for the speakers of languages with gender: do you notice when people/foreigners get genders wrong? What would that be equivalent to, roughly, in English?

Yes, you definitely notice. If you don't know the gender in Czech, it also means you don't know how to decline the word, so you leave it in the nominative casei. Which is like using "be" instead of "am, are, is...". But let's say the word in the sentence is in nominative case - what would that be equivalent to? Well, hard to say, maybe something like Gollum's double plural - "Bagginses", "pocketses"...

The thing is, you don't even have to be foreigner - there are some words, that can have two and sometimes even all three genders. And it's usually so, that in some part of the country one gender is used and the other gender in the rest of the country, so it may sound weird for you but for the other person it sounds weird the other way.

iEven if you know the gender, that still doesn't mean you know how to decline it, because there are many declension patterns for each gender and a lot of exceptions.

(Now I wonder how many such mistakes I make in English. Is there something wrong in every of my posts or are there some posts without noticeable mistakes?)

balthasar_s wrote:
we usually add the suffix -ová
Now I have to ask because I'm curious. In Polish we also have this (but not very often used). But the suffix -owa w is only used if "Nowakowa" is a wife of Nowak. An unmarried daugter of Nowak would be "Nowakówna" instead. Do you also have something like this?

Nope, -ová is just female form regardless of the marital status. And I forgot to say that if the surname is adjective-like (eg. "Nový", meaning just "New"), than you don't add -ová but just change the -ý to -á just like with common adjectives ("Nová").

balthasar_s wrote:Language-related:
Two of my sisters were (and one still is) learning to play the piano in a Czech music schools. We live very close to the Czech border, even if the map doesn't show it - I actually live in two places and this is the other one. My sisters don't speak Czech. The teachers don't speak Polish. But they learned to understand what the other side is saying, most of the time. It's very interesting to observe their conversations, where one side speaks only Polish, the other speaks only Czech, but they still understand each other somehow.

I must say I don't understand Polish very much. Of course, there are many similar words but that's not enough. Well, I guess we would be able to communicate somehow but a lot of non-verbal communication would have to be included too. :) Although I know that people living near Polish borders understand quite well even if they never learned the language. But we have this thing with Slovaks - you probably know that but for the others - Czech and Slovak are very similar languages (we were one country until 1993) so we naturally understand each other without big problems (yes, there are some words that are completely different but you can usually guess them from context because you understand the rest) even though we usually can't speak the other language very well.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby karhell » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:02 am UTC

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lmjb1964 wrote:And Minim, congrats on 800!


Thanks! And exactly the same to you!

Oh, indeed !
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:19 am UTC

Hey, I'm behind! How did that happen?

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To put it in RELATED terms, the cheese factor was seaish, the plot was steambottlish, and the actors were cairnishold. What are y'alls favorite (or least favorite) Star Trek movies, so I know where to go next?

Confession: they make movies like 4 for people like me. I like cheesy. I was touched by the interactions between the characters. I laughed at the funny bits. And I love when old guys kick ass, always have, even when I was a kid. RED? Space Cowboys? World's Fastest Indian? Love 'em.

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And NoMouse - I don't think I've noticed anything strange in your English.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby karhell » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:56 am UTC

ggh wrote:Thanks, mrob, for posting lunchbox101's avatar image. I got dragged off before I could, so that made it easier for me. :) It is a really treeish pic, and I'm doubly glad I asked because I have a tendency to see the low-res images incorrectly. In this case, I mostly saw it as it was, but made the notable error of parsing the forehead and hair as a duck's head looking left.

Aaaaah!! Can't unsee ! From now on, Razzy officially has a duck on his head :D
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:10 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Image Just noticed that in the Othercomic Cueball says, "Give us Time."

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby adnapemit » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:15 am UTC

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BlitzGirl wrote:Image Just noticed that in the Othercomic Cueball says, "Give us Time."

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:shock: That figuratively literally just blew my mind.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:27 am UTC

IT'S ALL RELATED!
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The -a comes from inflection, which birngs us back to languages.

NoMouse wrote:Gollum's double plural - "Bagginses", "pocketses"...

There's an interesting thing with loanwords, when a plural word from another language is imported as a singular word. Then, the plural of this actually has two plural suffixes - one from the original language and one from the new language.
NoMouse wrote:Nope, -ová is just female form regardless of the marital status. And I forgot to say that if the surname is adjective-like (eg. "Nový", meaning just "New"), than you don't add -ová but just change the -ý to -á just like with common adjectives ("Nová").
Thanks for the answer. And we also have an -y and -i to -a change in adjectivelike names.
NoMouse wrote:I must say I don't understand Polish very much. Of course, there are many similar words but that's not enough. Well, I guess we would be able to communicate somehow but a lot of non-verbal communication would have to be included too. :)
I don't understand Czech very much either. My parents and sisters learned to understand it a bit more because of this school and I was not involved. But they still have to use nonverbal communication too.
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And I too am curious how my English looks to you, English-speakers.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby karhell » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:32 am UTC

balthasar_s wrote:And I too am curious how my English looks to you, English-speakers.

Honestly your English is very good.
Maybe 20 years in France have altered my judgment a bit, but I don't see anything wrong with your English.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:47 am UTC

Steakish ottification, mscha!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby waveney » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:51 am UTC

balthasar_s wrote:And I too am curious how my English looks to you, English-speakers.


Very good. It's a lot better than my Polish (Technically I am 1/8th Polish - A Great Grandfather came from Poland when he was 2)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:04 pm UTC

ChronosDragon wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:New othercomic, which is kind of epsilon because it's purely text-based. Cuegan don't actually do anything in the drawings, they just walk a bit then stand around then walk a bit more... Hm. Seems familiar somehow.


Obviously they found a cell phone in a relic somewhere and have been running a web server off of it to see if anyone is left. The phone Cueball is using is so old that it is from pre-Heartbleed, and he just realized he had to fix it. While doing research about it, he stumbled on a recounting of what the vulnerability had been like to those involved at the time (mangled and exaggerated by retelling, of course) - the alt text.

I actually liked Star Trek 4...when I was 10. Now it is merely well done, but a bit cheesy.

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Stay away from Star Trek Victory:The Final Frontier, Nemesis, and Into Darkness. the last two are just more poorly done Wrath of Khans, and the first one is Shatner's ego trip.
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Time Revisited - np489

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:13 pm UTC

waveney wrote:
balthasar_s wrote:And I too am curious how my English looks to you, English-speakers.


Very good. It's a lot better than my Polish (Technically I am 1/8th Polish - A Great Grandfather came from Poland when he was 2)

I agree. My grandfather came from Poland, but I don't speak a word. Funny, I don't remember him having an accent, but then, I was very young and he was very old.

And a seaish Minim/Laura Mae cake (well, maybe not. Maybe a Corinne/Laura Mae cake):
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Time After Time: t1i-0861

Postby mscha » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:30 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Maugrim » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:38 pm UTC

Page 517. It's decided: Cueball and Megan don't know everything yet, so they're going to seek a Ford. Or possibly a Mini Cooper.

Progress seems slow, as the outside world makes outrageous demands upon my time. I'm encouraged to post by another piece of targeted sigcouragement from a user called Sciscitor.

I don't think I have a signature myself; perhaps creating one will by my reward when I finally emerge from the depths of Time into the doubtless calm and satiated Future.

Did I even set an avatar? I can't remember. I've never seen one of my posts. If I don't, I'd better add one. It might even aspire to a Hat one day!

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I, FOR ONE, WELCOME OUR NEW WISH-CORRUPTING OVERPOPE

Postby mrob27 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:47 pm UTC

Hey, no-one's taken up our ex-Neil on his treeish suggestion for wish-corruption. It's a really fun game (read a bit of the end of this thread to get an idea). Then you'd post to that thread with "Granted." and a corruption of the last wish in the thread (currently mine). There is no need to quote the person you're responding to because it's meant to be a single chain.

In a RELATED way, I wish for OTTified corruptible wishes. I also wish for a real live molpy to keep as a pet.

In the OTT wishes may be interleaved with the other ongoing threads of conversation, so you'd probably want to quote me if responding to this one.)
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Re: I, FOR ONE, WELCOME OUR NEW WISH-CORRUPTING OVERPOPE

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:50 pm UTC

mrob27 wrote:In a RELATED way, I wish for OTTified corruptible wishes. I also wish for a real live molpy to keep as a pet.

The molpy gets sick and throws up over your good trousers.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TheMinim » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:54 pm UTC

ggh wrote:
waveney wrote:
balthasar_s wrote:And I too am curious how my English looks to you, English-speakers.


Very good. It's a lot better than my Polish (Technically I am 1/8th Polish - A Great Grandfather came from Poland when he was 2)

I agree. My grandfather came from Poland, but I don't speak a word. Funny, I don't remember him having an accent, but then, I was very young and he was very old.

And a seaish Minim/Laura Mae cake (well, maybe not. Maybe a Corinne/Laura Mae cake):
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Re: I, FOR ONE, WELCOME OUR NEW WISH-CORRUPTING OVERPOPE

Postby mscha » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:02 pm UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:I wish for Time 2

After filling the eastern Mediterranean, the Zanclean flood continues in the western part, right when Time 2 starts. In the very first frame, Cuegan drowns. Thus ends Time 2.

I wish for a prequel to Time.

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Re: I, FOR ONE, WELCOME OUR NEW WISH-CORRUPTING OVERPOPE

Postby Dracomax » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:13 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Neil_Boekend wrote:I wish for Time 2

After filling the eastern Mediterranean, the Zanclean flood continues in the western part, right when Time 2 starts. In the very first frame, Cuegan drowns. Thus ends Time 2.

I wish for a prequel to Time.

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Re: I, FOR ONE, WELCOME OUR NEW WISH-CORRUPTING OVERPOPE

Postby rvloon » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:26 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Neil_Boekend wrote:I wish for Time 2

After filling the eastern Mediterranean, the Zanclean flood continues in the western part, right when Time 2 starts. In the very first frame, Cuegan drowns. Thus ends Time 2.

I wish for a prequel to Time.



Randall releases a comic called No Time, which is entirely text based, but in which the font seems slowly eroded as if the text had been soaking in salty water for 13000 years, and thus is unreadable.

I wish for a CD of all my ottifications.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mikrit » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:34 pm UTC

Welcome, lunchbox the binary!
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Hi, Laura Mae! I hope you survived the zombie raptors. I'm just reading the thread occasionally, but I managed to see your greeting. But I try to follow the current ONG story on mscha's viewer.

Me and my sister's project "move Mother from house to apartment" has got its classification upgraded from Urgent to Panic, with two days until meltdown.

Maybe we could lead a Zanclean flood through the house, so that Mother and her furniture are washed into the new apartment. By careful engineering, the unnecessary furniture should sink forever, while the useful stuff should float, and the house would certainly become cleaner. Please stand back, I am going to try Hydrology! (Hydraulics? Limnology?)

(Notice how skillfully I got back on topic, while throwing in a reference to Hercules? I am as erudite as a volcano.)

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Re: I, FOR ONE, WELCOME OUR NEW WISH-CORRUPTING OVERPOPE

Postby jimbobmacdoodle » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:44 pm UTC

rvloon wrote:
mscha wrote:
Neil_Boekend wrote:I wish for Time 2

After filling the eastern Mediterranean, the Zanclean flood continues in the western part, right when Time 2 starts. In the very first frame, Cuegan drowns. Thus ends Time 2.

I wish for a prequel to Time.



Randall releases a comic called No Time, which is entirely text based, but in which the font seems slowly eroded as if the text had been soaking in salty water for 13000 years, and thus is unreadable.

I wish for a CD of all my ottifications.

Ronald


The CD has been scratched, burnt, and generally rendered completely unreadable.

I wish for a quicker and easier way to schizoblitz.
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Re: I, FOR ONE, WELCOME OUR NEW WISH-CORRUPTING OVERPOPE

Postby rvloon » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:50 pm UTC

jimbobmacdoodle wrote:The CD has been scratched, burnt, and generally rendered completely unreadable.

I wish for a quicker and easier way to schizoblitz.


Two eye implants allow you to see one part of the thread in one eye, and another part of the thread on the other eye. Unfortunately, this means you cannot see anything else but the OTT.

I wish for more sandcastles on the beach.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tresoldi » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:54 pm UTC

I said I would not be linear, and here it goes: let’s jump to the interesting speech in frame 2728.

This frame is interesting, because it’s one of the Beanish “data points” closer to being a “Rosetta stone”. After some initial and difficult communication, when Cueball apparently learns the Beanish word for “water” (frames 2708/2709), he and Megan try to communicate with the Beanie by drawing. When Cueball makes it clear that they came from the lowlands, where we know the sea is rising, the Beanie seems both surprised and excited and fires three questions: ᔪᖉᔭᑫ ᕒᖚᐧ ᘊᓭᐧᑲᐤ ᑦᘈᖽᐣ ᔭ ᖆᖽᒣ ᓭᘖᑦ ᖊᘊᐤ ᕋᖗ ᖆᕬᖉᔭ ᘖᐣᖗᔭ, ᘊᓭᘖᔭᓄᐤ As Cuegan don’t (doesn’t?) understand, the Beanie takes the stitch and draws some parallel lines to indicate that the sea is rising.

We can make many educated guesses. The first sentence is probably a result of the surprise/excitement of the Beanie (remember that, as Rosetta will later explain, they did not imagine there were still people living there). One of the two last sentences (or possibly both, but I guess only the last one) is likely related to the the rising of the sea, and it seems a good guess that among those questions one of them is something like “How did you get here?” or, at best, “Are you (two) alone?”.

Syntactically, the first question is the one that helps us most. We have ᔪᖉᔭᑫ ᕒᖚᐧ ᘊᓭᐧᑲᐤ (“nafagaθa laka pataɲa?”), which is stringkly similar to the very first Beanish sentence, ᔪᕒᖚᐧ ᘛᔭᐤ (“nalaka zaga?”), in frame 2663. We have seen that this first question probably means “Where are you from?” or “Who are you?”, with the “question prefix” ᔪ (“na”) — that seems to work as a clitic, like most of Beanish morphemes –, the “locative adverb/preposition” ᕒᖚᐧ (“laka”) — sorry to keep the linguistic jargon, basically something which denotes a physical location, probably something translated as “here/there/where/in/at/…” (but at least I am not saying things like “place deixis”! –, and ᘛᔭ (“zaga”), likely a verb. In our new sentence, we keep the ᔪ (“na”) clitic, along with the ᕒᖚᐧ (“laka”). But we also have the common ᘊᓭᐧᑲ (“pataɲa”) word, which — unless Randall gave us homographs — is the name of the place where Cuegan come from (cfe. frame 2906, a.k.a. “the map”); I like to think of it as “Balearic”, to omit the fact that it might be a composite. However, the word seems to be the result of, at least, the ᘊ- (“pa-”) prefix and the word ᓭᐧᑲ (“taɲa”), used in the “good night” sentence of frame 2697. A case of homography here is not probable, and it raises an interesting hypothesis: that, maybe, perhaps, who knows, possibly, just a guess, ᘊ- (“pa-”) does not mean “big, superior”, but is a kind of determinative (an “article”, or maybe a “demonstrative”), used in precise circumstances. Think about the usage of articles in Ancient Greek — I keep going back to it as Randall spoke of Linear A, even though I know that Linear A is not Greek (as far as we know, it is not even Indo-European) –, including the fact that its usage in what we suppose to be Rosetta’s name might be an honorific.

We then have two sentences, one likely “QUESTION-(from) (to come)” and one “QUESTION-(?) (from) (Balears)”. The ᖉᔭᑫ (“fagaθa”) word is unfortunately very obscure, but, using the logic of English, it should be a verb. The alternative of having the first as “QUESTION-(person/who) (are, inflected 2nd plural)” and the second as “QUESTION-(?) (person/who) (Balears)” has some difficulties due to the later usage of ᕒᖚᐧ (“laka”), but it can’t absolutely be ruled out (a more fluent English translation would be “Are you Balearic?”). For the time being, we should study the corpus with both possibilities in mind: ᕒᖚᐧ (“laka”) as “from/where/there/here” (the one I favor) and as something that is or work as a copula verb (“to be”).

The second question, ᑦᘈᖽᐣ ᔭ ᖆᖽᒣ ᓭᘖᑦ ᖊᘊᐤ (“osaʤe ga daʤaʧa tebo ðapa?”), is more difficult. No word in it is clearly related to anything else in our corpus, not to mention the uncommon diacritic in initial position in ᑦᘈᖽᐣ (“osaʤe”). ᓭᘖᑦ (“tebo”) could be related to ᓭᘖᔭᓄ (“water”), but there is not clear indication of that — this is one of the few words where calculating the probability of a random similarity — I’ll do it, eventually — may actually help us, but once more what we need are good hypothesis to test. What do you all think this second sentence means?

We finally have ᕋᖗ ᖆᕬᖉᔭ ᘖᐣᖗᔭ, ᘊᓭᘖᔭᓄᐤ (“raʃa daʎafaga beʃagai patebava?”). We are naturally drawn to ᘊᓭᘖᔭᓄ (“patebava”), almost certainly a compound of the prefix ᘊ- (“pa-” — “big, superior” or a determinative) and ᓭᘖᔭᓄ (“tebava” — “water”). Based mostly in the following sentence by Megan (“Yes! The sea is rising!”), most people (including myself) speculated that this is, loosely, semantically similar ot the third question, which goes hand in hand with the translation of ᘊᓭᘖᔭᓄ as “sea” (“big water”). This has, however, some problems, in particular the fact that we know almost for sure that “sea” is written ᘊᖊᑦᓄ (“paðeva”). azule has suggested in the XKCD fora that ᓄ (“va”) is actually “water, liquid”), and while I am not completely confident with his/her hypothesis of freely joinable morphemes with independent semantic load (I use this complex description because I am not sure if he/she thinks about something more like Klingon or more like Chinese, but we are talking of somewhat-analytic languages), this makes a lot of sense here. Plus, it supports the hypothesis of ᘊ- (“pa-”) as a determinative: in our sentence, “water” is used with a determinative (maybe it’s the subject, maybe some other rule is at play), and in the maps, for example, the prefix is explained by proper nouns (ᘊᖊᑦᓄ ᘊᓭᐧᑲ would be something like “the-Sea the-Balearic”).

The other words in the sentence are, unfortunately, obscure. I agree that we should expect something like “up” or “rise” or “increase” in it, but we cannot go much farther than guessing. ᕋᖗ (“raʃa”) has both uncommon glyphs and uncommon features; the initial ᖆ- (“da-”) in ᖆᕬᖉᔭ (“daʎafaga”) could mean “good” (“up”?), but it doesn’t fit very well with the supposed meaning of the sentence; the only word very loosely similar to ᘖᐣᖗᔭ, (“beʃagai”) is ᖚᐣᘖᖗᑫ (“kebaʃaθa”), which doesn’t add much either. You’ve guessed it: we need more and better hypothesis for the translations.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:06 pm UTC

The mass of sandcastles collapses into a singularity.

Before I molpy up properly, re the language thing: I'm a bit of an arse when it comes to english, but I've not had occasion to correct any of you. We skip the whole gender issue and throw in irregular forms instead, which seem to be easier to deal with.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby tresoldi » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:10 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:As for language discussions: I understand why you would have more than thre gender pronouns. I understand why you would gender names. But I am still utterly lost as to why anyone would gender objects which have none themselves, so why do so many languages do it?


Usually either because there were many genders that "made sense" in the past (like, human/animal/vegetable/everything else) but were lost and "adapted" into the remaining genders (so that, in Italian, the fruit is feminine but the tree is masculine), or because the world was once upon a time understood differently from our current perspective, and there is no "man" and "woman", but "masculine" and "feminine" forces/energies/spirits that you can find in anything (very, very, very remotely related to the "ships have a woman's soul").

For example, among the Brazilian Kaingang and Xokhleng, everything is related to the two exogamic patrilinear halves Kanhru and Kame, two brothers who guided the people from the ground after a Deluge-like event (it is similar to the ant people myth common among North American people). The opposition between Kanhru and Kame, between "ror" and "téj", is not only mythological or linguistic, but almost epistemological and ontological. Everything short, low, rounded is "ror" and everything long, tall, angular is "téj", and this opposition has many linguistic consequences, among them genders and their phonetic expression (I don't know kaingague and have to simplify so much that I am actually making it wrong, but to give an idea you have, for example, a verb "to carry" when used to ror-things and a second "to carry" for téj-things, so that the verb in "I carry the ball." and in "I carry the stitch" is not the same because the action is inherently different.)
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Time Revisited - np491

Postby mscha » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:10 pm UTC

CUNGLOMERATEUR...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby karhell » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:15 pm UTC

tresoldi wrote:related to the two exogamic patrilinear halves

As if beanish wasn't hard enough :shock:
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