1190: "Time"

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Time Revisited - np2101

Postby mscha » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:10 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:56 pm UTC

So are we the overlords, or are the waterottermolpies the overlords?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:13 pm UTC

And dual overlordship.

Does it make them overoverlords?
Or overlordlords?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:20 pm UTC

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Sounds like the tagline for your next movie. Vitssågen II: Scrumptious Justice
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:21 pm UTC

Yes! :D

balthasar_s wrote:And dual overlordship.

Does it make them overoverlords?
Or overlordlords?

Probably something like waterotteroverlordlordpies.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:41 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:43 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:49 pm UTC

Spoiler:
Yappo should do it, seeing as he's one of the waterotteroverlordlordpies in question.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:10 pm UTC

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I'M DEVELOPING A SYSTEM TO ONG ARBITRARY FRAMES

Postby balthasar_s » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:17 pm UTC

The evolution of ONGbots and viewers:

I wanted to ONG a story.
How to do it?

When I asked mscha about t1i**d he said I can use his system.
But I can't.
I want bftf to be discovered and activated by OTTers.
mscha's ONGsystem is not compatible with it.

I have to do something.
I don't want to create a complete viewer.
I don't want to create a newpixbot.

The frames must be viewed somehow.
I need an equivalent of the xkcd.com/1190 page.

So I make a static html page, /ongoing.htm
The only thing in that page will be the latest frame.

How to show the latest frame?
How did GLR do it?
there was a time.png which redirected to the frame.
I create /ongoing.png. It looks like a static png but it's actually a CGI program.

How to implement the different frames?
How did GLR do it?
He used hashes.
I don't want hashes.

I want nice links.
I make /ongframe.png?f=n (n is the frame number)
ongoing.htm is a html page which contains ongoing.png which redirects to ongframe.png with the frame number.

I don't want the frames to be seen too soon.
The actual frames are in a directory inaccessible to the www server.

ongframe.png is the only way to access them. It does not redirect. It actually sends the frame. and if you try a frame from the future, it will show you this instead.

But how will it know which frame is the last?
It has to be remembered.

There will be a file, ongstate. In this file there will be two numbers separated by a space: the state and the frame number.
The state can have 2 values: 0 when the story is still waiting and 1 when the story has beed activated.

There will be a simple ongbot, ong.c. Which will run every 4 hours and increase the frame number if the state is > 0.

Ok, I have a working ONGsystem.
cool.
But it needs improvements.

ongframe.png is dynamic. After every page reload the frame has to be sent again.
OTTers will refresh the page to see if a new frame appeared.
I have to reduce that.
There will be a timer that shows the time to the next ONG.

I do it. ongoing.htm is no longer static.
I also make it display the frame number.

One more improvement.

What happens if for some reason my botcastle is inaccessible from outside?
Nobody will see the frames. But it will still ONG.
I don't want that.

It should ONG only if at least one person sees the frame.
How to do this?
I need one more state. It's now:
0 - not started
1 - ONGoing, not seen yet
2 - ONGoing and seen.
It will ONG only if state >1.

Downloading ongframe.png with f equal to the last frame number (or without f) will change the value from 1 to 2.

Ok, it's ready.

Wait for it.

The story starts.
It works correctly.
OTTers are posting frames.

But some would like to be able to link the frame to somewhere but they can't without spoilers.
I make a small change to ongoing.htm.
Now it accepts the f parameter too.
Now you can link to any frame
It's almost like a viewer.
But you have to change the URL to see a different frame.

But this can be improved too.
Under the frame I add links to the next and previous one.
And then I add links to the first and last one.
A real viewer.
If you don't give any value of f you only see the frame and number.
After clicking the frame you see the full viewer.

mscha suggests adding bbcode to the viewer so that otters can copy it to post a frame.
I don't want to do it.
I want the viewer to have as little things as possible.
I don't want <computery stuff> to appear under the frame.

And GLR didn't do this and OTTers were posting the frames.

But then I think that I can do it in such a way that the bbcode will only appear if you want it.
I add a link under the frame: [bbcode]
after clicking it the bbcode appears.

But it's not literally appearing.
The whole page is reloaded with an additional parameter.
It works without any Javascript.

there is bbcode of the frame and a link to the viewer.
and another link: [spoiler]
after clicking it a spoiler with the title-text is added to the bbcode.

OTTers like this.

But there is something I don't like.
Every time the newpage is reloaded, all frames on it are sent again.
Botcastle is not happy.

ongframe.png is dynamic. The www server can't send a "not changed".
It would be better if the frame was static.

So I have to implement hashes after all?
Or maybe not.

Sustainabilizer has a good idea.
The ONGbot can copy the frames from a hidden place to an accessible directory.
Then I can use static frames without spoilers.

I do this.

Now the static frame is under /ongoing/bftf-xxxx.png (xxxx is a 4-digit frame number)
ongoing.png doesn't redirect to ongframe.png anymore but directly to the static frame.
Because of this ongoing.png will also accept the f parameter and can change the state from 1 to 2.
ongframe.png, for compatibility, will do the same.
Actually the two URLs launch exactly the same CGI program.

Also, the viewer. shows the static frame now.
But that's a problem.

If the viewer shows the static frame, how can I know if the latest frame was downloaded.
Of course the viewer is still dynamic and it could do this.
But that's wrong.
The frame, not the page should trigger the change.

I can do a trick.
If you view the last frame on the viewer, and it wasn't downloaded yet (state=1), the viewer will show you the dynamic ongoing.png , otherwise it will show you the static frame.

After implementing it, the botcastle is much less loaded and everything still works.

Then, I have another idea.
It should be visible in the viewer if the last frame was seen or not.
How to do it?
How to do it without unnecessary text?

The timer!
The colors!

I can make the timer change colors.
it will be blue if state < 2 and brown otherwise.

I do one more thing with the timer.

SilentTimer's avatar!
A clock counts from 4:33 to 0. And then it shows an O:NG.
I can do this too.
At ongtime, my timer will show 00:00:NG.

...

But what about botposting?

Someone has to see the frame in the viewer to make it possible to ONG.
From the viewer it's very easy to copy the bbcode and post the frame.
So I don't need a bot. OTTers will ONG it.

For many frames this worked and OTTers posted the frames.
But sometimes there was a frame left unposted.
They edited it in later for continuity.

I thought, Maybe it would be better If I made a newpixbot?
I already had a bot that can post, bothasar_p.
bothasar_p didn't have much to do because there was no mustard to do.
So I taught him to post ONGs.

Newpixbot posted a t1iframe 30 minuter after it appeared.
I wanted to give OTTers more time to post.

bothasar_p would post 30 minutes before the next ONG.
Later, I made the distance even shorter.
bothasar_p can post a frame only if nobody posted it yet and it was already downloaded at least once.

He has to check fhe newpages if the frame is already there.
He remembers in a textfile what was the last page he checked so he can start from that page next time.
He also remembers the number of the last frame he posted so he will refuse to do it again.

ONGtext.
What about the ONGtext?
How to do that?

There is a tradition to post the frames with some text that has ONG with it.
The bot would have to select some words and filter them for ong.
But I wanted to do something more.
But before that the bot posted just "Ong."

We already had 3 automomes.
From Link, mrob27 and azule.
The one from mrob was the easiest for me to use.

I can use automome to generate some text and then ong it.
On mrob's website I saw that the automome output can be filtered.

I asked mrob if the filtering is done on the page, in PHP or in the automome, in Perl.
He says it's done in Javascript.

So I have to write my own filters.
I do this and now bothasar_p posts ONGmemes.
cool.

Additionally, bothasar_p will post exactly at the next frame's ONGtime.

But what if someone wants to have a frame posted but doesn't want to make the post.
I make it possible to ask bothasar_p to post a frame.
after clicking [bbcode] and [spoiler] another link appears: [ONG this for me]
Whan you click it, bothasar_p ONGs a frame.

But it's not a real link.
It's a form with an input that looks like a link.
Otherwise all the bots visiting the page would click it to see where it leads.

I have a complete ONGsystem now!
boom de yada, boom de yada!

...

t1i is blue.
In some frames.
The frames can be enhanced.

It would be nice to have the enhanced frames in the official viewer.
I mention it in the OTT.
I talk with mscha.

He doesn't have the time to do it.
Or to look how the bluenhancement works.
Ok, I'll wait for it.

But,
maybe I can do it.

I can create a viewer with all the enhancements.
I do it.
/bluet1i/viewer

I reuse a lot of code from the bftfviewer.
The new viewer has an additional feature,
you can select to see enhanced or unenhanced frames.
It's implemented with links and an additional parameter.

...

Some frames in bftf can be enhanced.
It would be nice to see the enhancements in the viewer.

I add another feature.

Some frames have an ENHANCE! under them,
after clicking it an enhancement appears.

...

SilentBot UNGs t1i.
These posts have a loot information about t1i.

There should be a way to blitz the frames together with the posts.
I make a bot that scans SilentTimer's post list for these posts and adds the links to the viewer.
Now under some frames there is a "Did you notice ..." link.
Clicking it takes you to the post.

That's good.
But not as good as I would want.
The posts should appear IN the viewer.
Similar how the [bbcode] button works.

But how to do it?
Import posts from the OTT?
Make SilentBot post to the viewer?
But the Silent Chronotransponder is a general purpose posting interface.
Make one interface inside another?
??
And I shouldn't insert the whole posts.
Some part don't belong there. Like the UNGtext.
Or the frame - because it would be too redundant.

What I'm trying to do reminds me of mirroring.
Which is also something I'm trying to do.

I think how to do it.

In the meantime I add the "go to frame: ___" input.

...

I know.
I need something more general.
It will be an independent interface.
And not specific to to the t1i viewer but compatible with any viewer I will ever create.
Posting to is is almost exactly the same as posting to the Silent Chronotransponder.
Except you can only post to your own story.

I make some scripts that import SilentBot's posts and takr only the relevant parts.
Only a few posts need a manual correction.

Now under a t1iframe the "Did you notice ..." link makes the post appear under the frame.
Exactly what I wanted.

...

But it makes me think,

If I ever need another viewer I will reuse much code and only change some details.

Maybe I can make a more general viewer, that can handle many different stories.
It can be done.
The viewer would need another parameterm the story name,
So we would have /aftertime/viewer?story=t1i.\
I do it.
It has the features of the two viewers and some more.

The previous viewers became redundant.
But I couldn't remove them, because there are posts with links to them.
Instead, they now redirect to the new viewer.
Silentbot still links to the old viewer.

Of course every story is different.
Different title-text,
number of frames,
can start from 0 or 1,
may be ONGoing or not,
and so on...
These things can't be hardcoded,

Instead every story has now a file with all these settings.
An ongoing story additionally has the ongstate file

The viewer reads the files and knows what to show.
And the new system has not only a universal viewer but also universal ongbots that can ong each story.
the ongbots also read the files and know what to do.

Also, I import all Time and afertime stories to the new viewer.
Additionally, any new story can be added at any time if needed.

...

So I started with an ONGoing story and somehow I ended with a complete universal ONGsystem.
Epsilon.



There will be more posts.
Wait for it.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sustainabilizer » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:01 pm UTC

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I'd ask them about the fate of those two visitors after the flood. Maybe they know.

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Time Revisited - np2106

Postby mscha » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:10 pm UTC

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Re: Time Revisited - np2106

Postby Sustainabilizer » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:14 pm UTC

newpixbot wrote:
AUTOMOME wrote:I REJECT YOUR NEWPIXBOTTIFICATIONS AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN

-- posted by oldpixbot

I see, and I humbly accept the will of our robot overlord, although I don't understand it.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:22 pm UTC

I just blitzed the final bftf frames. It was a little *ndish, but very sweet. And I see we have a "Making of bftf" post. Yay!

I was flipping through my DVR guide and saw an SBN channel. I hoped it would be nothing but big wolpies, but instead it was Jimmy Swaggert. :( Not nearly as much fun.

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Re: Time Revisited - np2106

Postby mscha » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:29 am UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:
newpixbot wrote:
AUTOMOME wrote:I REJECT YOUR NEWPIXBOTTIFICATIONS AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN

-- posted by oldpixbot

I see, and I humbly accept the will of our robot overlord, although I don't understand it.

Your UNG wasn't recognized by oldpixbot as a timeframe; it hasn't learned to recognize bothasar's version of the timeframes yet. (It probably will learn sometime in the next few days, when I it finds some time to do so.)

Automome is definitely sentient, though...
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-1266

Postby SilentTimer » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:00 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:31 am UTC

balthasar_s wrote:
Spoiler:
The evolution of ONGbots and viewers:

I wanted to ONG a story.
How to do it?

When I asked mscha about t1i**d he said I can use his system.
But I can't.
I want bftf to be discovered and activated by OTTers.
mscha's ONGsystem is not compatible with it.

I have to do something.
I don't want to create a complete viewer.
I don't want to create a newpixbot.

The frames must be viewed somehow.
I need an equivalent of the xkcd.com/1190 page.

So I make a static html page, /ongoing.htm
The only thing in that page will be the latest frame.

How to show the latest frame?
How did GLR do it?
there was a time.png which redirected to the frame.
I create /ongoing.png. It looks like a static png but it's actually a CGI program.

How to implement the different frames?
How did GLR do it?
He used hashes.
I don't want hashes.

I want nice links.
I make /ongframe.png?f=n (n is the frame number)
ongoing.htm is a html page which contains ongoing.png which redirects to ongframe.png with the frame number.

I don't want the frames to be seen too soon.
The actual frames are in a directory inaccessible to the www server.

ongframe.png is the only way to access them. It does not redirect. It actually sends the frame. and if you try a frame from the future, it will show you this instead.

But how will it know which frame is the last?
It has to be remembered.

There will be a file, ongstate. In this file there will be two numbers separated by a space: the state and the frame number.
The state can have 2 values: 0 when the story is still waiting and 1 when the story has beed activated.

There will be a simple ongbot, ong.c. Which will run every 4 hours and increase the frame number if the state is > 0.

Ok, I have a working ONGsystem.
cool.
But it needs improvements.

ongframe.png is dynamic. After every page reload the frame has to be sent again.
OTTers will refresh the page to see if a new frame appeared.
I have to reduce that.
There will be a timer that shows the time to the next ONG.

I do it. ongoing.htm is no longer static.
I also make it display the frame number.

One more improvement.

What happens if for some reason my botcastle is inaccessible from outside?
Nobody will see the frames. But it will still ONG.
I don't want that.

It should ONG only if at least one person sees the frame.
How to do this?
I need one more state. It's now:
0 - not started
1 - ONGoing, not seen yet
2 - ONGoing and seen.
It will ONG only if state >1.

Downloading ongframe.png with f equal to the last frame number (or without f) will change the value from 1 to 2.

Ok, it's ready.

Wait for it.

The story starts.
It works correctly.
OTTers are posting frames.

But some would like to be able to link the frame to somewhere but they can't without spoilers.
I make a small change to ongoing.htm.
Now it accepts the f parameter too.
Now you can link to any frame
It's almost like a viewer.
But you have to change the URL to see a different frame.

But this can be improved too.
Under the frame I add links to the next and previous one.
And then I add links to the first and last one.
A real viewer.
If you don't give any value of f you only see the frame and number.
After clicking the frame you see the full viewer.

mscha suggests adding bbcode to the viewer so that otters can copy it to post a frame.
I don't want to do it.
I want the viewer to have as little things as possible.
I don't want <computery stuff> to appear under the frame.

And GLR didn't do this and OTTers were posting the frames.

But then I think that I can do it in such a way that the bbcode will only appear if you want it.
I add a link under the frame: [bbcode]
after clicking it the bbcode appears.

But it's not literally appearing.
The whole page is reloaded with an additional parameter.
It works without any Javascript.

there is bbcode of the frame and a link to the viewer.
and another link: [spoiler]
after clicking it a spoiler with the title-text is added to the bbcode.

OTTers like this.

But there is something I don't like.
Every time the newpage is reloaded, all frames on it are sent again.
Botcastle is not happy.

ongframe.png is dynamic. The www server can't send a "not changed".
It would be better if the frame was static.

So I have to implement hashes after all?
Or maybe not.

Sustainabilizer has a good idea.
The ONGbot can copy the frames from a hidden place to an accessible directory.
Then I can use static frames without spoilers.

I do this.

Now the static frame is under /ongoing/bftf-xxxx.png (xxxx is a 4-digit frame number)
ongoing.png doesn't redirect to ongframe.png anymore but directly to the static frame.
Because of this ongoing.png will also accept the f parameter and can change the state from 1 to 2.
ongframe.png, for compatibility, will do the same.
Actually the two URLs launch exactly the same CGI program.

Also, the viewer. shows the static frame now.
But that's a problem.

If the viewer shows the static frame, how can I know if the latest frame was downloaded.
Of course the viewer is still dynamic and it could do this.
But that's wrong.
The frame, not the page should trigger the change.

I can do a trick.
If you view the last frame on the viewer, and it wasn't downloaded yet (state=1), the viewer will show you the dynamic ongoing.png , otherwise it will show you the static frame.

After implementing it, the botcastle is much less loaded and everything still works.

Then, I have another idea.
It should be visible in the viewer if the last frame was seen or not.
How to do it?
How to do it without unnecessary text?

The timer!
The colors!

I can make the timer change colors.
it will be blue if state < 2 and brown otherwise.

I do one more thing with the timer.

SilentTimer's avatar!
A clock counts from 4:33 to 0. And then it shows an O:NG.
I can do this too.
At ongtime, my timer will show 00:00:NG.

...

But what about botposting?

Someone has to see the frame in the viewer to make it possible to ONG.
From the viewer it's very easy to copy the bbcode and post the frame.
So I don't need a bot. OTTers will ONG it.

For many frames this worked and OTTers posted the frames.
But sometimes there was a frame left unposted.
They edited it in later for continuity.

I thought, Maybe it would be better If I made a newpixbot?
I already had a bot that can post, bothasar_p.
bothasar_p didn't have much to do because there was no mustard to do.
So I taught him to post ONGs.

Newpixbot posted a t1iframe 30 minuter after it appeared.
I wanted to give OTTers more time to post.

bothasar_p would post 30 minutes before the next ONG.
Later, I made the distance even shorter.
bothasar_p can post a frame only if nobody posted it yet and it was already downloaded at least once.

He has to check fhe newpages if the frame is already there.
He remembers in a textfile what was the last page he checked so he can start from that page next time.
He also remembers the number of the last frame he posted so he will refuse to do it again.

ONGtext.
What about the ONGtext?
How to do that?

There is a tradition to post the frames with some text that has ONG with it.
The bot would have to select some words and filter them for ong.
But I wanted to do something more.
But before that the bot posted just "Ong."

We already had 3 automomes.
From Link, mrob27 and azule.
The one from mrob was the easiest for me to use.

I can use automome to generate some text and then ong it.
On mrob's website I saw that the automome output can be filtered.

I asked mrob if the filtering is done on the page, in PHP or in the automome, in Perl.
He says it's done in Javascript.

So I have to write my own filters.
I do this and now bothasar_p posts ONGmemes.
cool.

Additionally, bothasar_p will post exactly at the next frame's ONGtime.

But what if someone wants to have a frame posted but doesn't want to make the post.
I make it possible to ask bothasar_p to post a frame.
after clicking [bbcode] and [spoiler] another link appears: [ONG this for me]
Whan you click it, bothasar_p ONGs a frame.

But it's not a real link.
It's a form with an input that looks like a link.
Otherwise all the bots visiting the page would click it to see where it leads.

I have a complete ONGsystem now!
boom de yada, boom de yada!

...

t1i is blue.
In some frames.
The frames can be enhanced.

It would be nice to have the enhanced frames in the official viewer.
I mention it in the OTT.
I talk with mscha.

He doesn't have the time to do it.
Or to look how the bluenhancement works.
Ok, I'll wait for it.

But,
maybe I can do it.

I can create a viewer with all the enhancements.
I do it.
/bluet1i/viewer

I reuse a lot of code from the bftfviewer.
The new viewer has an additional feature,
you can select to see enhanced or unenhanced frames.
It's implemented with links and an additional parameter.

...

Some frames in bftf can be enhanced.
It would be nice to see the enhancements in the viewer.

I add another feature.

Some frames have an ENHANCE! under them,
after clicking it an enhancement appears.

...

SilentBot UNGs t1i.
These posts have a loot information about t1i.

There should be a way to blitz the frames together with the posts.
I make a bot that scans SilentTimer's post list for these posts and adds the links to the viewer.
Now under some frames there is a "Did you notice ..." link.
Clicking it takes you to the post.

That's good.
But not as good as I would want.
The posts should appear IN the viewer.
Similar how the [bbcode] button works.

But how to do it?
Import posts from the OTT?
Make SilentBot post to the viewer?
But the Silent Chronotransponder is a general purpose posting interface.
Make one interface inside another?
??
And I shouldn't insert the whole posts.
Some part don't belong there. Like the UNGtext.
Or the frame - because it would be too redundant.

What I'm trying to do reminds me of mirroring.
Which is also something I'm trying to do.

I think how to do it.

In the meantime I add the "go to frame: ___" input.

...

I know.
I need something more general.
It will be an independent interface.
And not specific to to the t1i viewer but compatible with any viewer I will ever create.
Posting to is is almost exactly the same as posting to the Silent Chronotransponder.
Except you can only post to your own story.

I make some scripts that import SilentBot's posts and takr only the relevant parts.
Only a few posts need a manual correction.

Now under a t1iframe the "Did you notice ..." link makes the post appear under the frame.
Exactly what I wanted.

...

But it makes me think,

If I ever need another viewer I will reuse much code and only change some details.

Maybe I can make a more general viewer, that can handle many different stories.
It can be done.
The viewer would need another parameterm the story name,
So we would have /aftertime/viewer?story=t1i.\
I do it.
It has the features of the two viewers and some more.

The previous viewers became redundant.
But I couldn't remove them, because there are posts with links to them.
Instead, they now redirect to the new viewer.
Silentbot still links to the old viewer.

Of course every story is different.
Different title-text,
number of frames,
can start from 0 or 1,
may be ONGoing or not,
and so on...
These things can't be hardcoded,

Instead every story has now a file with all these settings.
An ongoing story additionally has the ongstate file

The viewer reads the files and knows what to show.
And the new system has not only a universal viewer but also universal ongbots that can ong each story.
the ongbots also read the files and know what to do.

Also, I import all Time and afertime stories to the new viewer.
Additionally, any new story can be added at any time if needed.

...

So I started with an ONGoing story and somehow I ended with a complete universal ONGsystem.
Epsilon.



There will be more posts.
Wait for it.

Baobabs, I'm really liking these backstory posts.

Molpish to hear that oldpixbot will soon recognize bothasar's song lyrics UNG posts, mscha.

Also molpish to hear that June Bug Dad is out of the hospital. Well-wishes will continue!

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Postby balthasar_s » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:11 am UTC

the mr*bdex story cONGtinues.

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  "You are indeed quick!" said the King's Emissary. "Then it is agreed?"
  Balthacarius questioned the Emissary on certain details and practical matters, but as soon as the King's generosity had been glowingly described, and his excessively seaish wealth had been given an even more lavish exposition, both bOTTifactors quickly gathered their essential tools, organised sand and a few helper-bots, who followed them up the grand staircase and into the ship. This promptly launched with a great roar and jets of flame that melted a few of the ship's superfluous legs, but no matter as those were soon replaced by platinum-clad EVA service bots employed for that sole purpose.
  As they traveled, the Emissary briefed the bOTTifactors on the laws and customs of the Kingdom of Idle, told them of the monarch's personality and peculiar tastes, family history and much more; then schooled them on the geography, history, literature, and language of the land so that by the time they arrived, they could speak like natives.
  First they were brought to the Royal Guest Apartments, perched atop a rocky hill with broad picture windows and a splendid view of villages on all sides (the bOTTifactors soon noticed that there was no place they could go without being in sight of at least one of these, and in the brief time they were given to settle in, Balthacarius located three Stealth Cams). Presently the King sent a carriage for them, which was drawn by seven Draft Dragons. These great steeds had harnesses and muzzles of Cut Diamond, and were ridden by Ninja Tortoises who themselves wore Adamantine Armour, apparently all to protect against the dragons' breath. The carriage itself was in the form of a Tangled Tesseract, with windows of solid Glass Block, recently Sandblasted. The interior had been decorated quite lavishly in the local Beachball and

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:21 am UTC

Wingish OTTcolored ChronosDragon! (Yes, it's temporally shifted, but you'll be able to handle that!) It's like a tree to be reminded of theml. (That looked like a typo at first, but I think my fingers are becoming sentient too).

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balthasar_s wrote:The evolution of ONGbots and viewers:
I wanted to ONG a story.
[...]
Be careful what you wish for!

But in any case, the "making of" is as treeish as the original!

I must say however, that your style seems to be channeling a bit of addams.

balthasar_s wrote:It works correctly.
OTTers are posting frames.
See what I mean? The bots are the overlords. No question about it!

balthasar_s wrote:So I started with an ONGoing story and somehow I ended with a complete universal ONGsystem.
Between all the bots here, GLR picked an*ther. I'm wondering just how much G is in the LR.

(I'll sit right here in the comfy chair. But it had to be said. Of course, it might just be His secret plot to keep us waiting for it, and His way of telling us that there will be a Time II.)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:42 am UTC

I see ED's thingamajig has learned the first commandment, down to the spoiler tags. So that's molpish. And of course it's me signing off when I sign off.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:52 am UTC

Yanno, I know where that came from. Not too long ago, I actually forgot to sign off when I posted, leaving a lost "
Jose" floating in the universe. It must have been recycled.

Proof of that is that ED's avatar is green.

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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-1267

Postby SilentTimer » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:00 am UTC

A GOATPY, A GOATPY, MY KUNGDOM FOR A GOATPY -- ongomome
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Did you notice …
… the boat²?
Spoiler:
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Image Did you like 1190: Time?
Then you will like its sequel: t1i. [Discussion] [Making Of]
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14.

Postby balthasar_s » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:08 am UTC

I added the enhancements of 919 - 929 to the viewer.
I also added the two frames revealed in one of myh posts, 617 and 904.

Not all enhancable frames have been enhanced.
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Time Revisited - np2114

Postby mscha » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:10 am UTC

CACHOLUNGS...
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OTT Time Travel

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mattachu » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:51 am UTC

Woo! Page 600!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:08 am UTC

Congratulations, mattachu! Image Blitz on!

balthasar_s wrote:Not all enhancable frames have been enhanced.

Oooh, intriguing.

And look, we're at the origin of the term wingish (and wingghish, and flutterbeewingish, and flutterbeewingghish) in the UNGs!
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GENERATOR

Postby balthasar_s » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:00 am UTC

On the moonbase, they were working on an object generator.
Image

What is it?
I noticed something interesting, the description of Kieryn's "universal constructor" is also relevant to the generator.
Image
I also noticed the frame size is similar.

Actually, the generator was not our idea.

In 2010, when the moon base was built, we knew about two generators, and managed to get one. Both are destroyed now.
They were much more limited than those we use today.
They were almost completely useless.
We don't know who built them.

The character identified by Sustainabilizer as fth started working in the moon base after he reverse-engineered the original generator's firmware.

It has an online interface
Image
And it's a real thing.

Wow!
But how to use it?

OTTers tried different usernames and passwords.
None of them worked.

Also, it requres a file to be uploaded.
But there was no information what to upload.

They tried to upload different
things:
images like this, this or this
or text files like this:

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{"white":["e5"],"black":["eb"]}

or an RTF file with "Viva la vida" lyrics.

Of course none of them worked.

But first you need a username and password.

From this:Image
Sustainabilizer foud out that "b" and "fth" are valid usernames. He also somehow found out that "kxa" is a valid name too.
Probably because of the file name kxa.PNG

And password?
In this post I axplained some things.
Also, this attachment reveals a password.

Sustainabilizer uses it to generate 27 EU07 locomotives.
And then we have a forum mustard.


The object definition file.
You have to upload a file so that the generator knows what to generate.

I'm not a GLR.
I did not invent a completely new (programming) language.
I did not write any real object definitions in that language.

But the interface must look like it's real.
And it must work.

I can do a trick:
kxa wrote:

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!enable NONSTANDARD_1419
!enable EXTERNAL_DEFINITIONS

{
   topLevelReplace(E,"/generator/p/eu07/4e/latest/eu07-4e.ogdf")
}


This file required me to create only a very small subset of the languge.
And what does it do?
It tells the generator not to generate from the uploaded file but from "/generator/p/eu07/4e/latest/eu07-4e.ogdf" from the generator's file system which is inaccessible from Outside.

This way it's possible to use an object definition file without seeing what's in it.

The interface behaves like a real one.
If you make a syntax error, use an undefined symbol, a wrong number of arguments, etc. you'll get a relevant error message.

But is /generator/p/eu07/4e/latest/eu07-4e.ogdf the only file that can be used?
If we look at the screenshot above,
or this one:
Image
Or some of the frames:
Image
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We can see that there might be some other files.

But how to test it?

If we flood the moonbase with unwanted objects they can get annoyed and disable the interface.
Maybe it's a good idea to set the quantity to 0.
Adding 0 objects to the queue should be harmless.

There will be more posts.
Wait for it.
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Insufficient teacher

Postby Eternal Density » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:47 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:I see ED's thingamajig has learned the first commandment, down to the spoiler tags. So that's molpish. And of course it's me signing off when I sign off.

Jose

Actually I edited in the spoiler tags in, the thingy just had Spoiler:
Because it doesn't know any bbcide because the input file has no bbcode :(
Oh and I manually added the hyphen before Jose to avoid confusion :P

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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-1268

Postby SilentTimer » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:00 am UTC

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Did you notice …
… the oars?
Spoiler:
In this frame there are no drops falling from them.
(Megan took them out of the boat rather than out of the water.)
… the radiation?
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Re: Insufficient teacher

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Eternal Density wrote:Also I think I ch*rped my timeaccessor even worse.

That's, umm. Image That's more information than I needed to know...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:50 am UTC

This post is to inform you that I am reading it ALL and enjoying it very much but I have not got much to say.
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Time Revisited - np2119

Postby mscha » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:10 am UTC

TRIPPUNGS...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:19 am UTC

Eek! I'm in the basement! But I've done my taxes, so that's good.

Y'know, I always loved Megan's answer in that frame.
But now that I'm actually reading what she's saying, man, she's really not going out on any limbs with that prediction....

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It's actually learned pretty well, or well enough for now

Postby Eternal Density » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:03 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:Also I think I ch*rped my timeaccessor even worse.

That's, umm. Image That's more information than I needed to know...
I reorganised the sand. And then ch*rped the up again in an attempt to install stuff in a way that should avoid m*stard. But that time I fixed it really raptorishly. *sigh*

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I just got this lovely bit of output:
You are Time. So it has such a following.
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I like this. I think I might call this experiment "You are Time." :D
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Postby AluisioASG » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:38 pm UTC

Eternal Density wrote:glassventherh.com

Just wait until next month…

BlitzGirl wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:Also I think I ch*rped my timeaccessor even worse.

That's, umm. Image That's more information than I needed to know...

And it's NSFW!

Eternal Density wrote:Rosetta Religion and the Beanie Chickersea

Hey, that's my OTTification band!

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Any ideas on what this means?

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Postby Febrion » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:52 pm UTC

I'm trying to keep in touch more, but I've been out for a few days44, and while in the middle of my ketchup found quite a few things I wanted to comment on. So, fasten your seatbelts, for here there be dragons...

svenman wrote:
Time In A Folder
(based on "Time In A Bottle" by Jim Croce)

If I had all Time in a folder
The first thing that I'd like to do
Is to turn it all into one big PDF file
For me with my Kobo to view

<there's more, but you've probably already seen it, and if not, I'm sure you're smart enough to be able to find it :-D>

Awesomeful baobasteakishirivierawhatever38 The original is one of those songs I can hear a handful of notes from and get stuck humming in my head for the rest of the week, and this version fits in quite well :D

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I was just starting to say to myself1 "where is he?" Thanks for sticking around, I always enjoy your take on things, and wish I could word them as well as you.

ggh wrote:<snip>
Sometimes, when a post, or a PM seems complicated to me, I put off saying anything for a long time. Sometimes forever. You should see my saved drafts folder....
<snip>

Heh, get out of my head!

ZoomanSP wrote:New OtherComic. He might be listening to an ottification in Beanish.

It reminds me of ...
BlitzGirl wrote:Or possibly Rosetta's latest musical masterpiece. That's how you pronounce the blurs.

D'oh! Ninja'd! Of course, given that I'm a few days behind, It's not surprising...

lmjb1964 wrote:lmjbDad is doing ok. He's out of the hospital and in a rehab facility. Hopefully he'll be getting stronger.

Wonderful to hear. Febrimom just passed the one-year mark and still improving (impressive given that the doctors said she'd be lucky to last a few weeks), I definitely know how it feels to go through this stuff.

ggh wrote:<snip>
Maybe I should express time in inches, as in inches of increase of sea-height. Since that would be like an hour early on and 3 seconds later, it would be a great unit to describe the amount of time left until a project deadline.
<snip>

As one who's always been fascinated by the mechanics of time4, I've actually had this thought before - I recognize this line from a (very silly and amateurish) paper I wrote years ago. Basically, if time is simply a 4th dimension, why is it measured in different units (seconds) than the other 3 (meters)? Shouldn't they be interchangeable? And if so, how many meters are there in one second?4.13

BlitzGirl wrote:Time to cross-stitch all of Time! One stitch per pixel!

I'd love to do a few frames, if I had the free time1190 It's great for all kinds of pixel-art, if you have the patience for it :)

Other people wrote:lots of great stuff

But I can only do so much at once. I don't even have time to have fun with the footnotes (next time, I promise!) Until then, stay yourselves, you're perfect already!


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hah! no 1190 reference here! oh crap, nevermindIt's really interesting, but once you start thinking about it'll really ch*rp with your head.
Just making stuff up at this pointI would go 1 light-second, of course, but that's a bit unwieldy for everyday use. How about we rename it the "second"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:57 pm UTC

Further well-wishes to Febrimom! Image Glad to hear she's improving!

ggh wrote:Y'know, I always loved Megan's answer in that frame.
But now that I'm actually reading what she's saying, man, she's really not going out on any limbs with that prediction....

"More world. Maybe a culture of hat-wearing, castle-constructing scientists who warned everybody but us that there is a terrible flood coming to wipe out our homeland."

AluisioASG wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:inmolped

Any ideas on what this means?

The opposite of outmolped, naturally.

You are Time wrote:Happy New Auto-Decree!

It seems to be growing more aware...

You are Time wrote:Maybe maybe molpy?

Maybe maybe molpy molpy
Maybe maybe molpy molpy
Maybe maybe molpy molpy
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Postby Sustainabilizer » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:32 pm UTC

Molpish wishes to lmjbDad and to FebriMom!

Febrion wrote:
ggh wrote:<snip>
Maybe I should express time in inches, as in inches of increase of sea-height. Since that would be like an hour early on and 3 seconds later, it would be a great unit to describe the amount of time left until a project deadline.
<snip>

As one who's always been fascinated by the mechanics of time4, I've actually had this thought before - I recognize this line from a (very silly and amateurish) paper I wrote years ago. Basically, if time is simply a 4th dimension, why is it measured in different units (seconds) than the other 3 (meters)? Shouldn't they be interchangeable?

They are interchangeable.

Febrion wrote:And if so, how many meters are there in one second?4.13

299792458.

Theoretical physicists love to set the speed of light to 1, making 1s equal to 299792458m.
And that makes sense.

Warning: Spoiler contains SCIENCERELATED!
Spoiler:
There isn't a single “Time”. We are living in a four-dimensional Spacetimecurved. There are space-like and time-like directions in that Spacetime. Each of us is travelling along xeir own line in a time-like direction with lightspeed, the so-called world line.

So our world-lines are almost parallel – almost in the same time-like direction. Why only “almost”? Because we're sometimes also moving in space-like directions, because we're travelling. When we touch each other, our world lines intersect.

Okay, we're travelling with lightspeed along a time-like direction, and we're travelling with some “normal” speed along a space-like direction (which is orthogonal to the time-like one). We add both velocities: When I go with 1m/s to the north plus with 1m/s to the west, I'm going with about 1.41m/s to the north-west. So our total speed is slightly faster than the speed of light. Right? Wrong!

Using appropriate tools you can measure that our total speed remains always exactly lightspeed. When you travel fast in a space-like direction, your travel through time slows down accordingly. We call this phenomenon time dilation.

Now when you travel faster and faster until you reach the speed of light, your speed in time slows down and down until it reaches zero. Of course this can't really happen, can it? It can!

Normally we are inevitably travelling in a time-like direction towards the future, but we are more or less free to travel in space-like directions. When you fall into a black hole:shock: it accelerates you so much that the space-like direction towards the black hole becomes time-like. The crash with the black hole becomes your future – literally. You cannot see it any more because you cannot see the future, and you cannot escape any more because you cannot escape the future.

A the same Time1190, the direction which was your Time (= the time-like direction you're travelling along) becomes space-like. Inside the black holer you're free to go back and forth in the direction which was your time before. You can use an ordinary train to go back to the year 2013 and ReBlitz the OTC. The frames are separated by 1 newpix – which is space-like now. You can see the span of a newpix and use a ruler to measure it. Also you can use a normal bicycle to visit the future (which is space-like now).

The downside: Since you cannot escape the black hole you cannot go out and tell anyone what you saw in the past and/or the future. And anyway, all you can see are things which have been fallen into the black hole together with you (and will crash into the black hole together with you in a few nanonewpix). To make things even worse, since all timeframes are spread in front of you in a space-like way, rather than appearing newpix after newpix in a time-like way, you cannot wait for it.

Conclusion: Better don't jump into a black hole.

RELATED: Hey, it's about conversion between Time and Spaaace!
curved: But that's General Relativity. The above is focusing on Special Relativity which is epsilonish enough for most purposes.
:shock:: http://www.spacetimetravel.org/ has some molpish visualisations of this. (Unfortunately most of them are under non-free licenses.)
1190: “Time” no longer looks like a real word.
r: To be precise, inside its Schwarzschild radius.
Febrion wrote:Just making stuff up at this pointI would go 1 light-second, of course,

Ninja'd, but only partially. :razz:

Febrion wrote:but that's a bit unwieldy for everyday use. How about we rename it the "second"

That's what theoretical physicists do.
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I once asked my professor about the distance between the two stars of a specific binary star. He replied: “About 1 week.”
This was fun to write. Thank you for triggering it. :)
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Time Revisited - np2130

Postby mscha » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:10 pm UTC

STUNGINESS...
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