1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:50 am UTC

New OtherComic.

ETA:
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Decree: Hmm... what about limericks?

There once was a fellow named Cue.
Of anything he had no clue.
But together with Meg
And his old, faithful bag,
He left home to find out something new.
Wait on.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:50 am UTC

phys 69 wrote:HOW TO FILP THIS, AGAIN?


Like this?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:41 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:13 am UTC

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poetically taking a stand.
The thread shall be filled
with what Zooman had willed
using only an organized sand.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SilentTimer » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:42 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:27 am UTC

♪ I'M LIVING ON A SPHERE ♪
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I wonder,
What will be these confusing implications?

One thing that comes to my mind is maps.
Try making a map of a large enough area and you will notice that it is not that simple.
Piece of a sphere cannot be transformed into a piece of straight paper without any deformation.

ETA:
This gave me an idea, for decree:

A physicist lived on a sphere,
but where - that is still not so clear.
Because every map that we used
has left us completely confused.
They only showed that we are "here".

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(this is probably my first limerick ever)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:15 pm UTC

balthasar_s wrote:♪ I'M LIVING ON A SPHERE ♪

♪ YOU CAN’T STOP THE WORLD FROM TURNING ♪
I mean, you could I guess, but it would be really hard and why would you want to.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby moody7277 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:48 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:
balthasar_s wrote:♪ I'M LIVING ON A SPHERE ♪

♪ YOU CAN’T STOP THE WORLD FROM TURNING ♪
I mean, you could I guess, but it would be really hard and why would you want to.


Tactical reasons. World not spinning means more daylight and a longer time to rout and destroy your enemy.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:16 pm UTC

Wait on.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:03 pm UTC

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An OTTer, that I know as 'me'
Is not great at rhyme,
So has taken some time
To follow the page pope's decree.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:20 am UTC

balthasar_s wrote:(this is probably my first limerick ever)

An awesomeful poem for sure!
I hope that there are more in store.
And I hope SBN
Who has stopped by again
Has a new FFS to work for.

moody7277 wrote:
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balthasar_s wrote:♪ I'M LIVING ON A SPHERE ♪

♪ YOU CAN’T STOP THE WORLD FROM TURNING ♪
I mean, you could I guess, but it would be really hard and why would you want to.


Tactical reasons. World not spinning means more daylight and a longer time to rout and destroy your enemy.

I''m not sure whether to laugh, or to be concerned that this is the reason you came up with...Image

ETA: I was trying to put this in a limerick, but since it's a little too complicated, and it's already a yip or so overdue, I thought I better just write it. Some time ago, Addams told me that I can take the information about her crowdfunding page out of my sig. Things have gotten much better for her; she has a much better living situation, and has support that enables her to continue living there and meet her needs. And we still have some funds left, in case needs arise here and there. Addams wanted to let me know that she is so grateful for everything the OTTers and other forum dwellers have done for her. I, too, am grateful for all the support and kindness of my fellow OTTers. We did a good thing here. I'm change my sig accordingly, and others who have listed the site in their sig may do the same.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby addams » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:49 pm UTC

Thank you.
I am warm and dry and sleepy. (smily face)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:49 am UTC

addams wrote:Thank you.
You're more than welcome. And even as Community leads to Advent, Community here will never end.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sustainabilizer » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:42 pm UTC

Try to call someone
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...

Whom will KXA phone? Her aunty?
Or her Mama in Nysa County?
On which date? Midnight? Noon?
“Hi, it's me from the moon!”
Having phone coverage is a bounty.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:03 pm UTC

EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE CONFUSIONGS:
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Wait for it.


Is this a good example?
We're still in ancient times, right.
For ancient people there could be multiple different reasons why living on a sphere could be confusing but I think this one was not one of them.

The Earth is... big.
At that time,
was it even possible to have vehicles
which would be able to perfectly keep the same one direction,
and doing so go far enough
to have a noticeable effect?

I don't think so.

Such a thing couldn't be observed in practice.
You could only think about it theoretically.
But then you know that it must be that way:
They are not going on two parallel lines,
they are going on two circles.

And unlike parallel lines
there is no rule that they can't meet each other.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:28 am UTC

EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE CONFUSIONGS: wrote:But how can that be, if they start on parallel courses, and don't steer right or left?
Easy. Gravity. The cars attract one another when they are in motion. Moving cars generate an F field circularly perpendicular to its motion, and cars moving through generate a G field perpendicular to the F field and to their motion. The G field causes the attraction between the cars, and also affects the car's interaction with the earth. We can test this by having a car move sufficiently fast. It will leave the earth's surface and fly out into space, saving NASA the cost of a moon buggy. If only there were a moon. And a buggy. And NASA.

I think this can be generalized - any moving object generates a F field... so if you create two spinning objects tied together with some sort of frame, you might be able to have the F field forces cancel out except for one G field vector pointing up. But that's genius level engineering - I'll leave it to Baltimore.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby addams » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:36 pm UTC

ucim wrote: And even as Community leads to Advent, Community here will never end.

Jose
Yep.
Well...There might be a Mud Slide that takes out the Internet.
Then we would have to...
Spoiler:
Wait For It...
to come back.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby addams » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:53 pm UTC

ucim wrote: And even as Community leads to Advent, Community here will never end.

Jose
Yep.
Well...There might be a Mud Slide that takes out the Internet.
Then we would have to...
Spoiler:
Wait For It...
Spoiler:
...to come back.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:45 pm UTC

The previous page-pope's decree
Brought forth many haikus. ('Twas me.)
I fully approve
Of the current pope's move
Decreeing, "Let Limericks be!"

Tried to put the following in limerick form and failed, so I'll just get it out there in prose. Happy to hear about addams' doing well and not needing the crowdfunded support anymore!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:11 pm UTC

ucim wrote:We can test this by having a car move sufficiently fast. It will leave the earth's surface and fly out into space, saving NASA the cost of a moon buggy. If only there were a moon. And a buggy. And NASA.
What?
You mean there is no need for a moon buggy?
Why couldn't you have told it before we started working on our buggy?
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ucim wrote:I think this can be generalized - any moving object generates a F field... so if you create two spinning objects tied together with some sort of frame, you might be able to have the F field forces cancel out except for one G field vector pointing up. But that's genius level engineering - I'll leave it to Baltimore.
Is this a challenge?
Is this nerdsniping?

Whatever, let's do it anyway.
Let's try to see how this theory works.

So this is what we are trying to achieve:
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(two objects moving in the same direction are pulled to each other by "gravity")
(V is movement, G is gravity)

> Moving cars generate an F field circularly perpendicular to its motion,
So, it looks like this:
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Actually, there are two possibilities. The "F-field" (whatever it is) can be like on the above drawing but can also be in opposite direction.
Which one to chose?
It doesn't matter!
The end conclusions will be the same. Even if we make an assumption here, soon we will have to make a second one and they will cancel out.
So, let's describe the relationship between the movement and the F-field by the "thumb up" rule (right hand):
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> cars moving through generate a G field perpendicular to the F field and to their motion. The G field causes the attraction between the cars

Ok, so let's illustrate the effect of the right vehicle moving through the field generated by the left vehicle:
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And of the left vehicle moving through the field generated by the right vehicle:
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Again "perpendicular to the F field and to their motion" gives two possible, opposite directions but "causes the attraction between the cars" leaves only one possibility.
So, let's describe this relationship between the directions of movement, F field and gravity by the three finger rule (right hand):
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(this is the "second assumption" I mentioned before)
Just align your three fingers perpendicular to each other and you know everything.

Ok, we just described the theory.
Now, let's move to the cool stuff.
Predictions.


According to the theory, what will happen
> if you create two spinning objects tied together with some sort of frame?

this, maybe:
> you might be able to have the F field forces cancel out except for one G field vector pointing up.?
Or something else?

Let's start with one spinning object.
(also known as "wheel").
Using the "thumb up" rule we find out how the F field looks like around the wheel:
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The field will point in one direction inside the wheel and opposite direction outside the wheel.
If we have two wheels we will also have two such fields:
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(I assume that both wheels are rotating in the same direction. That's because both are rolling on the same ground)

So, what is the effect of one wheel rotating in the field of the other one?
Let's look at the rear wheel (for the front wheel the final result will be the same).
The front wheel's F field enters the rear wheel from the left and points to the right:
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Using the three finger rule we can determine that the gravity will point
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...to the inside.

So all the gravity cancels out and doesn't pull the wheel in any direction (but holds it together, fighting the centrifugal force)?
Not exactly.
We expect the field to be stronger closer to the wheel.
So the actual result will look more like that:
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It's stronger closer to the middle,
If we add all those vectors we get this:
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Gravity will actually try to pull the wheels apart!
(but not very sttrongly - only the difference between both sides of the wheel plays a role here)
The total effect on the whole device is, however, zero. Both vectors cancel out each other.

So, interesting but disappointing.

But!
That's not the whole story!

You see, if a wheel is spinning on top of some ground, it is actually moving forward.
(that's what wheels are for, after all)
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So we also have to check what how it will look for a forward-moving wheel in this F field.
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Using the 3 fingers rule we see that gravity will point perpendicular to the ground, but downwards.
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So the whole device will actually be pulled downwards.
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So even if we do all these crazy tricks with the new physics of movement-circular-gravity, gravity is still, as always, pulling us down.

So it looks like we do need a moon buggy after all.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:29 am UTC

mumble mumble strings
mumble mumble eleven
dimensions do it.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:25 am UTC

Who needs strings when you have spokes? :)

11? this number is too small.
I declare that there are 72 little spokes holding everything together.
They are to small to see when the wheels are spinning but they are there.
You have to believe it.


Or if you tie together the two vehicles with strings,
it's not surprising that they will bump into each other. :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:28 pm UTC

One observation I forgot to add to my last post:
Sustainabilizer wrote:Whom will KXA phone? Her aunty?
Or her Mama in Nysa County?

This observation about the telephone area code shown matches up with what I noticed about the numberplate on fth's vehicle in this post.

Edit: Current phys frame:
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Wait for it.

I disagree. There is clearly a force which is relevant here, it's the gravity that keeps the vehicles stuck to the curved surface of the Earth. Without it, they would drift off into (Euclidean?) space and carry on on parallel (?) trajectories.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sustainabilizer » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:21 pm UTC

svenman wrote:I disagree. There is clearly a force which is relevant here, it's the gravity that keeps the vehicles stuck to the curved surface of the Earth.

Short answer:
Spoiler:
We must distinguish between the force which keeps the vehicles stuck on the curved surface of the Earth (pointing “down”) and the attracting force between the vehicles (pointing left or right). The latter is clearly not a real force.

(I admit that my speech was not clear about this. Sorry.)
Long answer:
Spoiler:
Wait for it.
svenman wrote:Without it, they would drift off into (Euclidean?) space and carry on on parallel (?) trajectories.

No and yes.
Spoiler:
The universe is not an Euclidean space, and the lines would indeed (at least locally) be parallel – though that does not mean too much in a non-Euclidean space.

For decree: I found a classical Limerick.
To save network bandwidth, I compressed it:

She smiles, rides tiger,
Returns from ride – inside
The smiling tiger.

Spoiler:
As Pfhorrest wrote, Haikus don't count syllables, but morae. According to German Wikipedia, morae have a similar poetic function in Japanes as rhymes have in western languages. According to English Wikipedia, a modern Haiku poet suggests that Haikus in western languages should “utilize all of the poetic resources of the language”, i.e. syllables and rhymes.

That doesn't make them easier to write. ;)


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:25 pm UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:We must distinguish between the force which keeps the vehicles stuck on the curved surface of the Earth (pointing “down”) and the attracting force between the vehicles (pointing left or right). The latter is clearly not a real force.

Yes, indeed, and I agree so far. I just found the statement "there is no force" inaccurate in its generality. (Which you more or less seem to admit in your parenthesis.)

Also, I feel reminded of this classic Othercomic. (Thanks for the links to the two latest ones, by the way.)

Sustainabilizer wrote:The universe is not an Euclidean space,

Yes, we know that thanks to Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity. But this knowledge came only with a much more advanced state of knowledge of Physics than has been covered in the speech of the physicist in the OTTercomic so far.

Two cars in a physicist's speech
Depart the equator to reach
The Earth's northern side
Where they must collide
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:42 pm UTC

The experiment is clearly not possible on the earth - there's too much water in the way and the cars will never reach the North pole. Clearly then, the experiment must be done on the moon. Balthasar - you're on the moon; there are (IIRC) four cars already there - let's gather them up and stage a road rally!

While we're at it, there are some cars on Mars too. What better use for them than to duplicate the same experiment and show (or refute) that physics is universal. Clearly a job for Earthling on Mars. Where is xe anyway? Is this proof that Mars also has a basement?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:02 pm UTC

svenman wrote:Edit: Current phys frame:
72 wrote:BUT THERE IS NO FORCE. IT'S JUST GEOMETRY.
I think I know where this is going.
It's one exaple to show that we can thing about gravity as not a force but a result of the geometry of space and time.
(but why now when we just learned that the Earth is round? - maybe it's to prepare the audience for what will come next?)

72 wrote:ONE MIGHT CONCLUDE THAT THE VEHICLES ATTRACT ONE ANOTHER, THAT THERE IS SOME FORCE AT WORK.
Only if:
  • You actually manage to achieve the ideal conditions.
  • You don't know that you're on a sphere. You expect to be in flatworld.

I made a mistake in analysing the motion gravity theory by Jose.
I decomposed the wheel's movement to moving forward and rotation.
This gives not 2 but 4 things to analyse and add together:
  • rotating wheel in the field of a rotating wheel,
  • moving wheel in the field of a rotating wheel,
  • moving wheel in the field of a moving wheel,
  • rotating wheel in the field of a moving wheel.
I only considered the first two.
If I include all 4 the answer is still down.

If I'm not wrong.

It would be nice see some numerical simulation...
decompose the bike into single elements and for each point add the effect of all other points...

Today I was actually (physically) decomposing a bike into single elements in order to restore it. Repaint, replace missing/broken parts, etc.


I also made a mistake in the telephone number.
The 0 is redundant and shouldn't be there.

The 0 on the beginning.
You don't use it after +48.
0 is a special code which means that it will be followed by the full number (needed when calling from a different area code than 77. From inside you can just use the 7 digit number.)
So you use it instead of +48 and not after it.

But even this usage is outdated.
The numbers all full by default now and shouldn't be prefixed by 0.

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ucim wrote:The experiment is clearly not possible on the earth - there's too much water in the way and the cars will never reach the North pole. Clearly then, the experiment must be done on the moon. Balthasar - you're on the moon; there are (IIRC) four cars already there - let's gather them up and stage a road rally!
I once drew a comic where they organised a railroad rally between the teams of Uncle Scienceman and Mr Lichtenstein.
It didn't end well.
One of the locomotives got stuck in a loop and the other one was separated from the battery:
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Also, we have 4 IIRC cars? (= Inexpensive Interplanetary Radio Controlled cars?)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sustainabilizer » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:52 am UTC

balthasar_s wrote:Also, we have 4 IIRC cars? (= Inexpensive Interplanetary Radio Controlled cars?)

That was the original meaning of the abbreviation. After they found out that it actually was quite expensive to get cars to the moon, they changed the meaning of the abbreviation to “Independent Interplanetary Radio Controlled” (if I remember correctly the redundancy).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:12 pm UTC

Frame 73 of phys is here
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And once again we see a frame which looks like a direct response to what was posted in the thread very recently.

phys is interactive?

BSTA is a story which really tried to pretend to be much more interactive than it even could be.
Here we have an opposite situation:
phys tries to look like just a normal TaT story but it actually can react to the thread's actions in real time!

S&S productiongs are very good at their job.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NoMouse » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:15 pm UTC

svenman wrote:I disagree. There is clearly a force which is relevant here, it's the gravity that keeps the vehicles stuck to the curved surface of the Earth.

According to Einstein's general relativity, gravity is only a fictitious, or pseudo force[1], just like the force that's pushing you into the seat of an accelerating car (in fact this force is fundamentally indistinguishable from gravity [2]) or the centrifugal force in a centrifuge [3]. It's a force that's not really there but it's useful to think about it as a force and it's consequences are just as real4 as those of a real force are. In other words, physics is weird. But I assume phys will eventually get there (especially if balthasar is right and it's responding to the OTT), so maybe this is kind of a
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Postby mscha » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:00 pm UTC

RONGIEST...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:46 pm UTC

NoMouse wrote:
svenman wrote:I disagree. There is clearly a force which is relevant here, it's the gravity that keeps the vehicles stuck to the curved surface of the Earth.

According to Einstein's general relativity, gravity is only a fictitious, or pseudo force[1], just like the force that's pushing you into the seat of an accelerating car (in fact this force is fundamentally indistinguishable from gravity [2]) or the centrifugal force in a centrifuge [3].

Good point, thanks. So actually, my earlier objection would only be valid within the context of Newtonian physics, more or less, where gravity was/is viewed as a real and fundamental force. As here we have a 21st century physicist talking about physics as understood by ancient people, Newtonian physics may not really be an appropriate frame of reference however. So I have to retract my objection to some degree because what I claimed to be clear in fact isn't clear at all. Sorry, Sustainabilizer!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:26 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:24 pm UTC

balthasar_s wrote:I decomposed the wheel's movement to moving forward and rotation.
This gives not 2 but 4 things to analyse and add together:
  • rotating wheel in the field of a rotating wheel,
  • moving wheel in the field of a rotating wheel,
  • moving wheel in the field of a moving wheel,
  • rotating wheel in the field of a moving wheel.
I only considered the first two.
If I include all 4 the answer is still down.

If I'm not wrong.

Also forgot to comment on this. Given that the two wheels are held at a constant distance from each other by the bike frame, they aren't really moving with respect to each other, are they? Just with respect to the ground.

Except that the front wheel gets swiveled around a roughly vertical axis when the bike is being steered in one direction.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:48 am UTC

Did anybody say the wheels were vertical? Or even in the same plane? :)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby moody7277 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:05 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:22 pm UTC

Planes have wheels but it doesn't stop them from flying.

svenman wrote:Also forgot to comment on this. Given that the two wheels are held at a constant distance from each other by the bike frame, they aren't really moving with respect to each other, are they? Just with respect to the ground.
Actually, this theory requires considering movement relative to the ground or another universal reference frame (not to confuse with the bike frame).
Without this we cannot get the effect of two parallel vehicles going in the same direction being pulled to each other.

Maybe extend it so that it is the movement relative to the actual gravity field or something like that. So here the Earth is the big guy forcing everyone else to behave like it wants.

We can try whatever we want but don't expect to be able to successfully make a made up theory agree with the world. :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:45 am UTC

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A jungle it's called oversea1s.
I read ev'ry post,
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And wanted to add on to these:

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I think this was Mondip's. Here is Wednesdip's.

ETA: And here's the new OtherComic.
Wait on.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:43 pm UTC

New BSTA frame:
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Didn't work.

You didn't really expect to be able to call someone from here.
Would be too simple.

You wonder if you could reach a phone which is also here.

Don't try it! Probably the roaming surcharges are going to be... astronomical.

This OTT page that we're on
Is right at this time nearly done.
The post by the goat,
As I'd like to note,
Will be just the very next one.
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Re: 1190: Time for Physics – phys-0075

Postby SilentTimer » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:16 pm UTC

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