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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Selcouth » Wed May 08, 2013 5:11 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Wed May 08, 2013 5:11 am UTC

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Valarya wrote:So their hills have people who chuck stuff into their river... but those hills are smaller.

I wonder what these bigger hills have in them!


Here be dragons?

Or velociraptors?


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby xpatiate » Wed May 08, 2013 5:17 am UTC

Does "ours" refer to the river or the hills?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eutychus » Wed May 08, 2013 5:41 am UTC

KarMann wrote:New Other Comic's up. And surprise surprise, it's about a subject ("Encoding") we've just recently been discussing here in the OTT.


Is there a subject that hasn't 'recently' been discussed here?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby slinches » Wed May 08, 2013 5:52 am UTC

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buffygirl wrote:For Selcouth1 and Bytes.

1 It's a super-nova-Panini-hat on an android, of course! :roll:


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Buffygirl, leave it to you to so expertly juxtapose the grandeur and wonder of natural phenomena with the most glorious of man's achievements (technology and delicious pressed sandwiches). If you deem me worthy, my new avatar1 would greatly appreciate a spiffy chapeau crafted by your masterful and creative millinery talents. :D

1It's visual pun relating to my user name but the context is so obscure that it ruins the joke. Also, it's a slug!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby spamjam » Wed May 08, 2013 6:04 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby descor » Wed May 08, 2013 6:05 am UTC

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That's what she said ...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby KarMann » Wed May 08, 2013 6:11 am UTC

Valarya wrote:So their hills have people who chuck stuff into their river... but those hills are smaller.

I wonder what these bigger hills have in them!

Eyes.

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KarMann wrote:New Other Comic's up. And surprise surprise, it's about a subject ("Encoding") we've just recently been discussing here in the OTT.

Is there a subject that hasn't 'recently' been discussed here?

Yeah, I was considering mentioning that when I posted that. Especially if you limit the consideration to subjects that might appeal to the geeky/nerdy sorts.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby slinches » Wed May 08, 2013 6:17 am UTC

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spamjam wrote:[img]Megan: If we don't reach a crossing soon, we'll be in them.

That's what she said ...

Yes. Yes, it is and quite unambiguously so. (No pun intended)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby dreiarmumig » Wed May 08, 2013 6:26 am UTC

Smithers wrote:Kieryn (or anyone else who knows); could you tell me what the noun  means? Yes, that's the word between these brackets: ().
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It's probably not that because then you'd remember using it, but I used it a few times during the Madness so that words wouldn't be altered, 'T()ime' would be shown as 'Time' and not as 'Things that are on my side...'

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eutychus » Wed May 08, 2013 7:00 am UTC

I've been looking over the Dialogue again.

To me the dialogue is frequently like a linguistic version of the Uncanny Valley. It parses and makes some kind of sense, and yet it doesn't quite feel right. Some of the responses are not unlike what one might expect from a bot ("This river doesn't look broken"). I'm reminded again of the dreamlike quality of Finnegan's Wake:
riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs


Does the dialogue elicit similar feelings or connotations for anyone else out there? It seems increasingly to me that whether it's random or cryptic, any direct relation between the dialogue and what we see is mostly incidental.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Wed May 08, 2013 7:00 am UTC

Smithers wrote:New song parody. To the tune of Que Será, Será

Finally something which would work even untalented, jet lagged, drunk, and time-lost. Thanks! :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eternal Density » Wed May 08, 2013 7:01 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed May 08, 2013 7:07 am UTC

They're looking at us again... :shock:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Flotter » Wed May 08, 2013 7:08 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:BANG!
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"Looking in our directiONG" you mean ;)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Flotter wrote:
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"Looking in our directiONG" you mean ;)

That was the obvious thing to say so I took the path less traveled.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Wed May 08, 2013 7:11 am UTC

Still trying to tackle down where they are. The lack of dialogue about an effluent bothers me.

(btw: The Dead Sea does not have an effluent).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Wed May 08, 2013 7:23 am UTC

KarMann wrote:New Other Comic's up. And surprise surprise, it's about a subject ("Encoding") we've just recently been discussing here in the OTT.

... which is not really surprising, as it has been stated earlier on, everything is in the OTT and nothing is off topic, because all comes back.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Flotter » Wed May 08, 2013 7:36 am UTC

Sciscitor wrote:
KarMann wrote:New Other Comic's up. And surprise surprise, it's about a subject ("Encoding") we've just recently been discussing here in the OTT.

... which is not really surprising, as it has been stated earlier on, everything is in the OTT and nothing is off topic, because all comes back.

Also: What Eutychus already said.

What are you talking about‽ Our encoding was more like encryption, today's comic is about character encoding (unicode and such). To me, these 'feel' like completely different things.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Wed May 08, 2013 7:39 am UTC

Eutychus wrote:I've been looking over the Dialogue again.

To me the dialogue is frequently like a linguistic version of the Uncanny Valley. It parses and makes some kind of sense, and yet it doesn't quite feel right. Some of the responses are not unlike what one might expect from a bot ("This river doesn't look broken"). I'm reminded again of the dreamlike quality of Finnegan's Wake:
riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs


Does the dialogue elicit similar feelings or connotations for anyone else out there? It seems increasingly to me that whether it's random or cryptic, any direct relation between the dialogue and what we see is mostly incidental.


Yes! At least yes to the Uncanny Valley part. I could imagine a bot sounding that way, or a dodgy translation to English, or sometimes things sound that way when they contain a hidden message (for example, when you make the last letter of every word spell out something).

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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby XonqNopp » Wed May 08, 2013 7:46 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:They're looking at us again... :shock:

Should we hide ourselves??? :shock:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed May 08, 2013 7:52 am UTC

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BlitzGirl wrote:They're looking at us again... :shock:

Should we hide ourselves??? :shock:

It's too late now, they've seen us. :shock:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Wed May 08, 2013 7:56 am UTC

A little late to respond to this, but as fun as it would be to believe, I don't think that Cueball's dream was of the What If. That rope was strong enough, and he, not she, would have been the one most likely to fall. I read it as more of a Mae West kind of thing to say. Which tells you a little about how my mind works, but seems validated by Megan waking him by kicking him in the head.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby foilman » Wed May 08, 2013 8:01 am UTC

lONG way down...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Wed May 08, 2013 8:04 am UTC

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What are you talking about‽ Our encoding was more like encryption, today's comic is about character encoding (unicode and such). To me, these 'feel' like completely different things.

Yyyeeees. But during the RECKONING some used diacritics to avoid automated substitution (e.g. 'tíme'). One guy actually made really heavy use of the unicode table ("Semëncöffeëcancërbabiës be hwæt makës thë Kingdoï änd be hwæt rïses ön thë rïght.").
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Postby BlitzGirl » Wed May 08, 2013 8:10 am UTC

No wonder they were staring at us; we were at the bottom of a cliff.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eternal Density » Wed May 08, 2013 8:14 am UTC

So the River is down there? I guessed it might be something like that :D
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby KarMann » Wed May 08, 2013 8:21 am UTC

higgs-boson wrote:
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What are you talking about‽ Our encoding was more like encryption, today's comic is about character encoding (unicode and such). To me, these 'feel' like completely different things.

Yyyeeees. But during the RECKONING some used diacritics to avoid automated substitution (e.g. 'tíme'). One guy actually made really heavy use of the unicode table ("Semëncöffeëcancërbabiës be hwæt makës thë Kingdoï änd be hwæt rïses ön thë rïght.").

Right, just a couple of newpages ago, we were wondering about why someone got the &nbsp; in their list of common nouns, and we went off on different ways of encoding and typing that, and a few other similar characters. I'm a little surprised at such confusion from someone using an interrobang in their own question.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed May 08, 2013 8:28 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:No wonder they were staring at us; we were at the bottom of a cliff.

Or, apparently, hovering in a helicopter next to the cliff, above the river.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed May 08, 2013 8:31 am UTC

A helicopter?! I've never been in a helicopter! :D How exciting! Can I toot the horn? No, wait, that's a train...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eutychus » Wed May 08, 2013 8:33 am UTC

ggh wrote:
Eutychus wrote:I've been looking over the Dialogue again.

To me the dialogue is frequently like a linguistic version of the Uncanny Valley. It parses and makes some kind of sense, and yet it doesn't quite feel right. Some of the responses are not unlike what one might expect from a bot ("This river doesn't look broken"). I'm reminded again of the dreamlike quality of Finnegan's Wake [...]
Does the dialogue elicit similar feelings or connotations for anyone else out there? It seems increasingly to me that whether it's random or cryptic, any direct relation between the dialogue and what we see is mostly incidental.


Yes! At least yes to the Uncanny Valley part. I could imagine a bot sounding that way, or a dodgy translation to English, or sometimes things sound that way when they contain a hidden message (for example, when you make the last letter of every word spell out something).


As CS Lewis said, a friendship is born when you hear "you too? I thought I was the only one" :)

I don't quite agree with 'dodgy translation' though (translation is my day job!). It's not dodgy so much as just teetering on the edge of meaning. It's sort of half way to "Colourless green ideas sleep furiously", and it's the half-way factor that's like the Uncanny Valley.

I've been wondering about hidden messages in the text of the kind you mention too (first/last letters, number of letters in each word, and so on)*, but my skills are very definitely in languages, not cryptography. I'm surprised there hasn't been more interest here in the latter aspect with regard to the dialogue, though. Anyone want to take a look?

*In fact rereading myself I've realised it reminds me of the oddly-worded clues in the book Masquerade.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed May 08, 2013 8:37 am UTC

I just noticed a small difference between frames 1174 and 1175 that I can't explain:
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or zoomed in:
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Any ideas? Note that it doesn't look like Cuegan dropped something: it appeared some time after they passed.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Wed May 08, 2013 8:45 am UTC


A river digging in that deep had held its bed for more than a couple of years. On common grounds, at least.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Wed May 08, 2013 8:45 am UTC

mscha wrote:Any ideas? Note that it doesn't look like Cuegan dropped something: it appeared some time after they passed.
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Vegetation resurrecting itself slowly after being trampled down?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Selcouth » Wed May 08, 2013 8:48 am UTC

foilman wrote:lONG way down...
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Whoaaa. Holy. So, thus far everything in the comic has been mostly on the same level, except the castle. Including the sea. But this is implying that a river lies down there that is somehow ALSO emptying into the sea.... which is higher in altitude. What the?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed May 08, 2013 8:51 am UTC

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A river digging in that deep had held its bed for more than a couple of years. On common grounds, at least.

Or it was created in 40 days and 40 nights when our Lord Randall, in His infinite wisdom, brought a pixel flood upon the universe of Time. ;)

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Whoaaa. Holy. So, thus far everything in the comic has been mostly on the same level, except the castle. Including the sea. But this is implying that a river lies down there that is somehow ALSO emptying into the sea.... which is higher in altitude. What the?

No, they've been climbing. The river down there is probably still far above sea¹ level.

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mscha wrote:Any ideas? Note that it doesn't look like Cuegan dropped something: it appeared some time after they passed.
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Vegetation resurrecting itself slowly after being trampled down?

Yeah, that could work, although it doesn't look very vegetationy. (I know it's green, but that's just because it's ‘added’. :) )

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Wed May 08, 2013 9:06 am UTC

mscha wrote:Yeah, that could work, although it doesn't look very vegetationy. (I know it's green, but that's just because it's ‘added’. :) )

True, but we are talking here about 1 and three half pixels and about 2 and about 6 half pixels. How much trampled down vegetationy can those pixels look like?

Maybe it would help to find out if they been there in the frames before?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Wed May 08, 2013 9:08 am UTC

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Beware the perspective.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed May 08, 2013 9:11 am UTC

higgs-boson wrote:
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Beware the perspective.

One Newpix ago, did they just look at the sea?!

No, the river.

This frame is very similar to two frames ago, but not identical: both Megan and Cueball took at small step to their right:
Spoiler:
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