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Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:39 pm UTC
by Opiboble
Valarya wrote:And La Petite skipping ahead through the trees.... :cry:

At.. at least we still have the voice over project. Right?

I think we should make it into a full animated series, I can host a voice server.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:39 pm UTC
by mscha
nerdsniped wrote:
mscha wrote:I'm going to repost my end frame again, because, frankly, I think it's better than this.
Spoiler:
Image

You can ONG it in half an hour...

No, even I wouldn' be that mean. Image

Edit: I refuse to be page pope. On strike until Time restarts.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:39 pm UTC
by taixzo
HAL9000 wrote:I'm going to post this big, so people see it.
Idea: let's all go to the Geekwagon viewer and make sure that it pauses on the correct frames (i.e. voting up dialogue frames and voting down unimportant frames that somehow got voted up).



HES wrote:Well, time to go outside I suppose
Spoiler:
Image


So, kickstarter for time 2? [bargaining]


I will fund this. I will so fund this. Who has a kickstarter account and can set this up?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:39 pm UTC
by HES
Before I continue stage two and say things I don't mean, Bravo GLR. It's been a blast.

Untill then,
Spoiler:
Well, shit.
BlitzGirl wrote:
HES wrote:So, kickstarter for time 2? [bargaining]

You're moving a bit faster than I am through the stages, but YES.

I'm being nonconformist and doing it out of order. You know what we're like with standards...

ETA: Unhappy 500
Spoiler:
Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:40 pm UTC
by Valarya
HAL9000 wrote:Also let's try to avoid posting unnecessarily so those who aren't online right now might be able to get through all this excitement over the end. We don't want to hand them a 40 page ketchup like there used to be.

Why bother slowing down? It's not like there will be new ONGs to promote new discussion anyway. But I get your point. :cry:

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:40 pm UTC
by Zorin_75
Valarya wrote:At.. at least we still have the voice over project. Right?

Oh, I'm so looking forward to that!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:40 pm UTC
by higgs-boson
pdg wrote:Like the 40, we emerge, blinking, into a new world.

A *changed* world.

Our journey to that world was pretty amazing, too.


No. We changed.


@mscha:
I guess geekwagon.net beats mscha.org for a consumer-type user friendlyness.
The scientist would, proabably, pick mscha.org. For the greater good: What about combining powers?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:41 pm UTC
by TimeLurker
I know there is still almost 1/2 a newpix before the ONG, but I'm begging all of you. Please, please, please no fakeONGs. Emotions are too high for that stuff right now.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:41 pm UTC
by hdhale
What can I say but, bravo Randall. Should you want to do a sequel some day, we'll all eagerly await it.

This "outside" people keep mentioning, what's it like?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:41 pm UTC
by kaiken1987
I'm not ready to give up yet!

3097 newpix that has to mean something! Right? That's C19 in hexadecimal. Does C19 mean anything? The Boeing C19? Maybe a section of Map Grid?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:41 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
HES wrote:
Spoiler:
Before I continue stage two and say things I don't mean, Bravo GLR. It's been a blast.

Untill then,
Well, shit.
BlitzGirl wrote:
HES wrote:So, kickstarter for time 2? [bargaining]

You're moving a bit faster than I am through the stages, but YES.

I'm being nonconformist and doing it out of order. You know what we're like with standards...

ni ni ni...*sniffle*

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:42 pm UTC
by taixzo
HAL9000 wrote:Also let's try to avoid posting unnecessarily so those who aren't online right now might be able to get through all this excitement over the end. We don't want to hand them a 40 page ketchup like there used to be.


Why? What if it's the last ketchup ever??

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:42 pm UTC
by portemantho
Nooooooooooooooooooooo—

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:42 pm UTC
by Opiboble
hdhale wrote:What can I say but, bravo Randall. Should you want to do a sequel some day, we'll all eagerly await it.

This "outside" people keep mentioning, what's it like?


Cloud with a chance of burning hydrogen ball.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:42 pm UTC
by Pikrass
taixzo wrote:
mscha wrote:
Pikrass wrote:Well, we have to admit it's the best viewer/player/whatever among the three, despite the heretical numbering.

We do?


I prefer mscha's viewer, frankly. It doesn't let you animate them, but it gives you more access to the actual information, and also mustarded frames. Also, it loads in under a second, whereas geekwagon takes like ten seconds before it shows anything for me.


I doubt any site would support the load tonight. :) But yes, it needs a better architecture.
I agree about the mustard. For features, you'll be happy to know that the source code is on Github, so we can all work to improve it: https://github.com/deplicator/xkcdTime_atyourownpace

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:43 pm UTC
by ggh
mscha wrote:
Pikrass wrote:Well, we have to admit it's the best viewer/player/whatever among the three, despite the heretical numbering.

We do?

Speaking of this, sometime long ago, I donated a couple bucks to a viewer-maker.
How do I donate a few to you, mscha, for your molpy-hunting and assorted awesomeness?
(I confess it will only be a few dollars, as I am kinda broke since I left work for the little one.)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:43 pm UTC
by foilman
The end.

Well it had to happen eventually, didn't it? And it's at a suitable point; their exploration saved their people, as did their epic sandcastle creation of course, and they're off to start a new life - not scavenging from hill people any longer though! Perhaps they will rejoin the beanies, or perhaps as some have said they've gone a different way. Either way, I've enjoyed the story, and my time here in the OTT.

Thanks to you all here for making it a fun shared experience.

So long and thanks for all the ONGs!

(unless an epilogue appears one day, I know I'll be checking occasionally!)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:43 pm UTC
by Opiboble
BlitzGirl wrote:
HES wrote:
Spoiler:
Before I continue stage two and say things I don't mean, Bravo GLR. It's been a blast.

Untill then,
Well, shit.
BlitzGirl wrote:
HES wrote:So, kickstarter for time 2? [bargaining]

You're moving a bit faster than I am through the stages, but YES.

I'm being nonconformist and doing it out of order. You know what we're like with standards...

ni ni ni...*sniffle*


ni ni ni8a

8a*sniffles*

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:44 pm UTC
by Rule110
A few things to say quickly. Follow-up thoughts later.

1. Thunderous applause.

2. The last scene did seem like a likely final scene to me. In fact, the last several sections or chapters or eras or whatever we end up calling them, came across as epilogue-like. And then the final sandcastle sealed the deal.

3. I hope the people of this thread stick around for a while. I think there's room for some new OTTifications, further critical thoughts, and other creative stuff now that there is an encompassed whole to work from. (Consider, for example, book discussions, that don't normally even start until the book is not only completed, but read in its entirety by most of the correspondents.) Knowing the audience isn't going to disappear right away would encourage more creativity. I for one pledge to keep up for at least another week, probably longer.

4. "I am glad you are here with me. Here at the end of all things, Sam." -- Frodo Baggins

5. "Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends." -- Dr. Manhattan.

6. The title is Time, and Randall has said quite a bit about Time. I'll be trying to unpack it all over the next several days.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:44 pm UTC
by charlie_grumbles
edo wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Five stages of grief:

Stage 2: Anger

You mean something like this:
He's murdering Time! Off with his head!
CRUCIFY HIM! CRUCIFY HIM!

oh my, that explains a lot

@edo, I can't command you, but I do implore you to remove the end spoiler from your signature. This is visible to blitzers all the way back to your first post. Please. For all who will come after us.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:45 pm UTC
by Random832
Are there any offline-mode packages of any of the viewers? If the comic is truly over, that might be a useful feature to add.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:45 pm UTC
by reckter
Opiboble wrote:
Valarya wrote:And La Petite skipping ahead through the trees.... :cry:

At.. at least we still have the voice over project. Right?

I think we should make it into a full animated series, I can host a voice server.


That would be so awesome!
And shouldn't be that hard, because all the key frames are already there. The time between to newpix ( or longpix) wouldn't be consistent in that series though.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:45 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
Opiboble wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:
HES wrote:
Spoiler:
Before I continue stage two and say things I don't mean, Bravo GLR. It's been a blast.

Untill then,
Well, shit.
BlitzGirl wrote:
HES wrote:So, kickstarter for time 2? [bargaining]

You're moving a bit faster than I am through the stages, but YES.

I'm being nonconformist and doing it out of order. You know what we're like with standards...

ni ni ni...*sniffle*

ni ni ni8a

8a*sniffles*

ni ni ni*sniffle*



*sniffle* :cry:

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:45 pm UTC
by Random832
charlie_grumbles wrote:@edo, I can't command you, but I do implore you to remove the end spoiler from your signature. This is visible to blitzers all the way back to your first post. Please. For all who will come after us.


There's a live link to the current frame at the top of the thread. No way to hide that it's over.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:45 pm UTC
by libra
And the story ended, more or less, as it began.

Megan and Cueball building a sandcastle. A beach. The sea. And then running off to go exploring.

You could, to be fair, see it all coming. Everything they went through - all the landmarks they passed on their way up, they ran past them again on the way down, employing the storytelling device that allows you to see your favourite places and features one last time.

You saw La Petite, and you got to see what remained of their poor sandcastle - which turned up to save their lives, almost as if it were a Big Dumb Animal that turns up, remembers who treated it right early in the story and offers them a ride.

So to speak.

They went up to the mountains to understand everything. And while they may not have entirely understood everything ... we did. Because we identified the time, the date, the planet and the location (the Mediterranean), and got to toy with an entirely new language, Beanish.

I think he's told everything he's needed to tell.

Short of there being a Time II some way down the line (Cuegan and the other 38 of The Forty face shenanigans from the displaced Hill People and the Beanies, and Rosetta wants her Maps back), I can't imagine what else he can tell at this point.

And Time II would vaguely disappoint, kind of like the last season of Babylon 5, or the Ori seasons of Stargate SG-1.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:46 pm UTC
by Valarya
foilman wrote:So long and thanks for all the ONGs!


Image

I will continue to...

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:46 pm UTC
by Opiboble
Everyone in the office is looking at me weird, I am sitting here crying.... Why GLR? WHY?!?!?

...

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:47 pm UTC
by ZoomanSP
That was ch*rpingly unspectacular.

It's been a pleasure to wait with all of you.

BlitzGirl wrote:The River is small...

The sea is big!!!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:47 pm UTC
by HAL9000
Pikrass wrote:
taixzo wrote:
mscha wrote:
Pikrass wrote:Well, we have to admit it's the best viewer/player/whatever among the three, despite the heretical numbering.

We do?


I prefer mscha's viewer, frankly. It doesn't let you animate them, but it gives you more access to the actual information, and also mustarded frames. Also, it loads in under a second, whereas geekwagon takes like ten seconds before it shows anything for me.


I doubt any site would support the load tonight. :) But yes, it needs a better architecture.
I agree about the mustard. For features, you'll be happy to know that the source code is on Github, so we can all work to improve it: https://github.com/deplicator/xkcdTime_atyourownpace

One thing that desperately needs adding to the Geekwagon viewer is a way to access the bitstring for each frame as it is stored on the xkcd server.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:47 pm UTC
by HES
Rule110 wrote:2. The last scene did seem like a likely final scene to me. In fact, the last several sections or chapters or eras or whatever we end up calling them, came across as epilogue-like. And then the final sandcastle sealed the deal.

We all saw it; but many did not want to believe. Now it is over, it's pretty clear it was leading up to this. And, it ended at a suitable, hopeful point where all the important ends have been tied up.


Except the beanish. And the hill people. And lucky. And Cuegan's romance.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:47 pm UTC
by 42 guests
From an entertainment standpoint, it was a good way to end.

Always leave your audience wanting more.

Much applause!

*profound sigh*

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:48 pm UTC
by Valarya
Since we had all those LOTR comparisons.. maybe this is just like when Sam and Frodo got off the boat at the end of movie 1. And end-of-March next year will be part 2? Wishful thinking. I think I'm still in denial.

Image

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:48 pm UTC
by BlitzGirl
Thanks, Zooman, I was Waiting for that.

libra wrote:And Time II would vaguely disappoint, kind of like the last season of Babylon 5, or the Ori seasons of Stargate SG-1.

Heresy! The Sequel!

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:49 pm UTC
by TimeLurker
Random832 wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:@edo, I can't command you, but I do implore you to remove the end spoiler from your signature. This is visible to blitzers all the way back to your first post. Please. For all who will come after us.


There's a live link to the current frame at the top of the thread. No way to hide that it's over.

Yes, but who starts reading on page 1 everytime they go to the thread?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:49 pm UTC
by Zorin_75
Random832 wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:@edo, I can't command you, but I do implore you to remove the end spoiler from your signature. This is visible to blitzers all the way back to your first post. Please. For all who will come after us.


There's a live link to the current frame at the top of the thread. No way to hide that it's over.


Not that I think the spoiler on NP1 was a good idea, but there are still a lot of people somewhere in the middle of the thread, why ruin it for them?

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:50 pm UTC
by cryptoengineer
I've been following both the OTC and the OTT since frame 1, but haven't posted much. While I found the ending a bit abrupt, that's Munroe's perogative. I've been astonished that he kept it up this long, and hope he posts some info about the project.

Thanks, Randall, it's been a fun journey.
I hope you make a T-shirt for this.

Someone's already updated Wikipedia, btw.

Cryptoengineer

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:50 pm UTC
by Opiboble
BlitzGirl wrote:Thanks, Zooman, I was Waiting for that.

libra wrote:And Time II would vaguely disappoint, kind of like the last season of Babylon 5, or the Ori seasons of Stargate SG-1.

Heresy! The Sequel!

THIS IS HERESY! The Ori portion of SG1 only sucked because they canceled the series half way through the story arch so it had a HORRID ending.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:50 pm UTC
by mscha
ggh wrote:
mscha wrote:
Pikrass wrote:Well, we have to admit it's the best viewer/player/whatever among the three, despite the heretical numbering.

We do?

Speaking of this, sometime long ago, I donated a couple bucks to a viewer-maker.
How do I donate a few to you, mscha, for your molpy-hunting and assorted awesomeness?
(I confess it will only be a few dollars, as I am kinda broke since I left work for the little one.)

I appreciate the gesture, but not necessary. (See fractint contribution policy.)

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:50 pm UTC
by jowo
And so Time ends. I'm sad. :( I was hoping we'd get to solve the language problem....

But thanks Randall. And thanks to everyone else; it's been a great trip, and I've appreciated both the company and the assistance.


Since I'm expecting the discussion to continue, I'll be checking in here from time to time.

BCNU! If not here, then somewhere else.

Re: 1190: "Time"

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:51 pm UTC
by HAL9000
Valarya wrote:Since we had all those LOTR comparisons.. maybe this is just like when Sam and Frodo got off the boat at the end of movie 1. And end-of-March next year will be part 2? Wishful thinking. I think I'm still in denial.

Image

It feels more like the Grey Havens to me...
:cry: