1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:12 am UTC

Latent22 wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:Quick question: who, if we know, is making these images about Lucky that appear every four hours? I skipped over their origin.
Edit to add that I seem to have reclaimed my old post as Vatican Milliner's Perfect Customer. (I'm never a pope. Never.)
Edit2: bajiggles this thread is slow-moving today.


Well I'm currently the one releasing them but I can't claim all the credit as I've got someone else helping out with the content as well. You can have the fun speculating on who that might be.

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Oh, it's proberly Grandel, he must have tons of spare time these days.
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Postby Eternal Density » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:17 am UTC

Exodies wrote:
intheshax wrote:BTW, if anyone can see a connection between these: "The Godfather", "Risky", and "Pit Bulls" that would help me with something I'm trying to figure out.

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I can't. (Hope that helps)

The connection is Kevin Bacon
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:20 am UTC

I ottified by subtraction, leaving only the most RELATED content (click for seaish version):

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Somebody else feel free to properly ottify it if you'd like - this is the lazy approach. :wink:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:23 am UTC

why are there tiny spiders in my house
why do spiders come inside
why are there huge spiders in my house
why are there spiders in my room
why are there so many spiders in my room
why do spider bites itch
why is dying so scary


well, that escalated quickly.
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Postby Eternal Density » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:28 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:I ottified by subtraction, leaving only the most RELATED content (click for seaish version):
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Also because without it there would be no people in the future to build sandcastles.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:35 am UTC

Ah, just noticed the obelisks question, which probably should have stayed black because of Kieryn's RELATED project. Image
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:38 am UTC

intheshax wrote:BTW, if anyone can see a connection between these: "The Godfather", "Risky", and "Pit Bulls" that would help me with something I'm trying to figure out.

Well, being in the Maffia is risky, as you can be killed by a rivaling gang quite fast. Trying to fight a pittbull while naked and covered in creme cheese is also risky. Oh and there are probable gangs that used pittbulls for intimidation.
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Postby Eternal Density » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:41 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Ah, just noticed the obelisks question, which probably should have stayed black because of Kieryn's RELATED project. Image
I'm sure there will be more that I missed; I need to molpy down soon and my brain is busy combating coma.
Actually, it's ALL related.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:47 am UTC

So true, Eternal Density. But as the saying goes, "All molpies are RELATED, but some molpies are more RELATED than others." (The same goes for questions, I guess.) :wink:

Exodies wrote:Oh, it's proberly Grandel, he must have tons of spare time these days.

What? Spare Time?!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:54 am UTC

ucim wrote:
referring to Julian Jaynes' Bicameral Mind book, Exodies wrote:Therefore there must have been a time when consciousness appeared (if you think we are conscious).
If this occurred after the creation of our earliest stories, and if the stories maintained some integrity while they were being passed down from generation to generation before they were finally written down then it should be possible to detect the emergence of consciousness by the sorts of changes in story telling that Julian points out between early Homer and late Homer.

So, are you saying Julian was wrong because consciousness never emerged or are you saying he just got the timing wrong?
I think his reasoning is faulty, and he got the timing way wrong. I'm not even sure he defined what consciousness is, nor have I seen any good definition of it, except that it is the "first person" in a world of "third person".

There is no reason (for me) to presume that stories came before consciousness. There is also no reason (for me) to believe that its emergence would have a detectable effect on stories. It is false logic to argue that if an effect is seen, that any given theory provides the reason.

He certainly got the timing wrong. But he didn't "just" get the timing wrong.

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You are right, he didn't define consciousness (in that book), but I thought of it as a convenient word for the system (thing, process, hm) which changed in people producing the differences he points out between early and late stories. These things need an explanation. For some reason there is widespread resistance to the idea that self awareness (they are your thoughts, not gods talking to you) is so new (3000 years). It's this resistance which intrigues me and I bring Julian into every group I barnacle on hoping to find someone who understands why they reject it so instantly and strongly. Oh yes, and his analysis was all about language, so nothing at all to do with dogs or any other critter (molpyish or not).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:58 am UTC

jovialbard wrote:I wanna feel that sweet sweet Time in my veins man!

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Any of the re-poets working on VU's "I'm waiting for my Frame"?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:01 am UTC

I saw "42 guests" while I was scanning the Who is Online section and was happy to see a fellow OTTer, until I realized there really were 42 guests. :?

Randammit, if only 42 guests was here, we could have had a username sandwich at the bottom of the thread!

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Postby Eternal Density » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:20 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby irino » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:22 am UTC

I am checking in to say that the othercomic mentions obelisks. IT'S ALL RELATED. Bye.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:31 am UTC

TheMinim wrote:I think it's time to add another message to this thread.

I did stuff and got 2 As, 2 Bs and a C. I'm carrying the As and the C forward. After that I plan to just carry the As forward. Without context this sounds pretty weird.

Grammar!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:33 am UTC

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Re: Blind-Post NP1347

Postby Exodies » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:34 am UTC

azule wrote:Image

BlitzGirl wrote:Also, is awefulsome the same as awesomeful?

It is my suggestion that they are basically the same except through connotation. Awfulsome has the connotation of awful but is still mostly positive. Awesomeful obviously has awesome as its base and the most overall positive word.

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Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:36 am UTC

That is so wingish, azule! I like the cutaway with the tree roots. :)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:37 am UTC

TheMinim wrote:Punning isn't an offence, though, and I can say that now as this is post number 500! :P

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:38 am UTC

higgs-boson wrote:More of a problem: Some manips were linked only, not attached. Which makes any automatism for collecting raw data trickier.

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And some colouring was only done in the wiki. Tee hee.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TheNgaiGuy » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:39 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Quicksilver » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:41 am UTC

punning is a huge offence; it can do more damage to livers than alcohol can. Proof:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:44 am UTC

Angelastic wrote:Image

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Good work. Only one thing I'd like to ask - why the neck?
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Postby Eternal Density » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:45 am UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:
TheMinim wrote:Punning isn't an offence, though, and I can say that now as this is post number 500! :P

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Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:03 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:
Neil_Boekend wrote:
TheMinim wrote:Punning isn't an offence, though, and I can say that now as this is post number 500! :P

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True, it should have. Alas, at the time I didn't think of that.
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Because it had to be done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5JHGi0awgc

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Who told them about the folly of their ways
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But they were ninja'd by a girl from their clan
Ooho, NoClueganites. Aah..

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Re: Time: "1190"

Postby azule » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:35 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Angelastic » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:22 am UTC

Exodies wrote:
Angelastic wrote:Image

{P1385}
Good work. Only one thing I'd like to ask - why the neck?

All the better for holding his head on, my dear.

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:cry: I just spent money on a tablet and it turns out I can't even draw a stick figure well enough to please the neckless masses!

I remember playing a text adventure once when I was a kid, and trying to pick up a necklace by typing 'get neckless'. The computer responded, 'I can't do that' or something similar, which was different from its usual response to a command that it didn't understand or an object that it didn't recognise, so I can only assume the computer had actually been programmed to attempt to remove its neck, and fail, a broken-heart-shaped box of inadequacy and wire. Ever since that day, I have taken care to only draw stick figures with clear, easy-to-cut necks, so that they may not suffer this same failure, you insensitive clod!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:28 am UTC

Angelastic wrote:
Exodies wrote:
Angelastic wrote:Image

{P1385}
Good work. Only one thing I'd like to ask - why the neck?

All the better for holding his head on, my dear.

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:cry: I just spent money on a tablet and it turns out I can't even draw a stick figure well enough to please the neckless masses!

I remember playing a text adventure once when I was a kid, and trying to pick up a necklace by typing 'get neckless'. The computer responded, 'I can't do that' or something similar, which was different from its usual response to a command that it didn't understand or an object that it didn't recognise, so I can only assume the computer had actually been programmed to attempt to remove its neck, and fail, a broken-heart-shaped box of inadequacy and wire. Ever since that day, I have taken care to only draw stick figures with clear, easy-to-cut necks, so that they may not suffer this same failure, you insensitive clod!


Never mind. Since the stick figure misses some other sensible parts, as well, I guess it would not miss its neck very much. ]:^>
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:41 am UTC

Rule110 wrote:Whan that Juvembre, with his shoures soote
The droghte of Maytober hath perced to the roote
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And bathed every baobab in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
Whan Zephirus eek with his sweete breeth
Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
The tendre mollpes, and the yonge sonne
Hath in the Scorpen his halfe cours yronne,
And smale raptores maken melodye,
That slepen al the nyght with open eye-
(So priketh hem Nature in hir corages);
Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages
And specially from thir caussel sande,
Cuegan to Chateau D'If they wende,
The mannie-wordded Beanie for to spake
To laerne abought the damme which soone wouldst breeke.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:49 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:20 am UTC

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Angelastic wrote:All the better for holding his head on, my dear.

*Runs into spoiler*
No worries, I liked the chibi-cueball (with friend megan). Secondly, I'm sure Exodies was referring to the fact that xkcd characters have no necks, therefore your version, which includes a neck, seemed odd.

Fun fact: Some early xkcd comics contain characters with necks (if memory serves me right).

This is not one of them:
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...Aaaand time for coma.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:38 pm UTC

ucim wrote:
cellocgw wrote:the Rules of Thermodynamics. Colloquially translatable as:

1) You can't win.
2) You can't break even.
3) You can't get out of the Game.
And each of the major philosophies is based on the negation of one of these rules.

Capitalism is based on the idea that you can win.
Socialism is based on the idea that you can break even.
Mysticism is based on the idea that you can get out of the game.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:45 pm UTC

Zeimusu wrote:*Delurking*

Has there been any consensus on what a the OTC is? Or at least what a 1-frame per hour animation is called. I'm attempting to set up my own, but what is it? A "Timed movie", an "Unimation"? Suggestions very welcome.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:05 pm UTC

pelrigg wrote:Even though I can recite this at will, I did look it up to insure my brain cells weren't being fallible. (It's a good thing I did, although I got the gist of it right. *sigh*)

The Three Laws of Beanies:


1. A Beanie may not injure a Cuegan, or, through inaction, allow a Cuegan to come to harm.


2. A Beanie must obey the orders given it by a Cuegan except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.


3. A Beanie must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.




Leading to the meta-laws which followed.
Zeroth: A Beanie may not injure Cuegankind,...
Fourth: A Beanie shall know that it is a Beanie.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Vytron » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:21 pm UTC

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schwartzbewithyou wrote:Hopefully to help with some of the Post-Time Stress Disorder... I bring you Monomolpy pieces v5.0! Now with improved water transportation!
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Wow! I finally see from where the Trebuchet Monopoly Monomolpy Token came from! Great job! :)

From people that don't visit OtherForums, just wanted to mention that there's a Snakes and Ladders Monopoly game being played on the Forum Games section, which has our patzer as a player, and he's using the trebuchet as his token!

Not only that, in board spaces, it's in the lead, by far:

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Space 48! The second highests are tied in space 16!


Had I known these existed I'd probably had gone with a Monomolpy Token for the game :)

Also, great job to everyone on the manips and colorOTCframes, and everything, I even think I've seen content that never would have been created if the OTC c*nt*n*ed, so I'm happy about all the creativity :)

As for the "heartbeat" of the thread, it could easily be fixed:

People create a frame, but they don't post it on the thread, we send it to mscha, and then, when he reaches 168 frames of content, he tells Newpixbot Nopixbot to post them each hour, and BAM! We have an entire week with hourly updates where we get a new frame made by the members of the OTT - We can also comment on them as they appear, we can hide stuff on the frames for people to discover, we all can live moments like the ones that happened on the OTC again, because, after all...

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...I've loved all the things people have created on the thread much more than anything Randall has created himself :)


*Shot*

Ow! It was just an idea!
Go! Go! You can do it username5243!
Cheers Marsh'n!

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THANKS KARHELL!! :)

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Blindpost from NP1373

Postby Earthling on Mars » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:27 pm UTC

NP1372
yappobiscuits wrote:Trying my first attempt at an end-of-time based ottification. This is an absolutely beautiful song (with a beautiful video) I often forget about and then when I'm reminded of it I remember how much I love it…

The Timewaiter
Ottification of "The Islander" by Nightwish
ETA: mp3 now available!

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An OTTer watched the seashore at the end of Time
Gazes at the oldpix as their sequence loops on by
A newly found island, but frames are all the same
The OTC is ended on a raft without a name

Thread without a comic for waiting ones to see
How can we still live on past the end of OTC?
He shows them the way, lighting hope in their hearts
The life and soul of our thread is too strong to depart

This is the ne'er forgotten
Comic that was their whole world
The oldpix cycling
The frames left behind long ago

The sparrowraptor's flying, making him daydream
The time before the end, when there were still newpix unseen
Beanies in their towers, Cuegan in the fields
Time gave him it all, an escape from the outside world

Now waiting's a memory, a ghost in the past
He closes the tab one last time, says farewell to Time's world
Anchor to the water, castles far below
But the thread still carries on, and he smiles as posts still flow

This is the ne'er forgotten
Comic that was their whole world
The oldpix cycling
The frames left behind long ago

So long ago…

This is the ne'er forgotten
Comic that was their whole world
The thread ne'er dying,
The tears they left behind so long ago

So long ago...

Beautiful. *sniffle*


And I made it to my Bench!

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The Bench

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jovialbard wrote:I'd just like to point out that your bench is a perfect page pope post :)

Yeah, I sat there for a long time waiting for page 1372 to fill up so the bench could be at the top of the next page. (Thank you to lmjb1964 for goating NP1372 for me. :) )

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:32 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Ah, just noticed the obelisks question, which probably should have stayed black because of Kieryn's RELATED project. Image
I'm sure there will be more that I missed; I need to molpy down soon and my brain is busy combating coma.


FTFY.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:52 pm UTC

continuing this discussion about Julian Jaynes' Bicameral Mind book, Exodies wrote:{P1384}
You are right, he didn't define consciousness (in that book), but I thought of it as a convenient word for the system (thing, process, hm) which changed in people producing the differences he points out between early and late stories. These things need an explanation. For some reason there is widespread resistance to the idea that self awareness (they are your thoughts, not gods talking to you) is so new (3000 years). It's this resistance which intrigues me and I bring Julian into every group I barnacle on hoping to find someone who understands why they reject it so instantly and strongly. Oh yes, and his analysis was all about language, so nothing at all to do with dogs or any other critter (molpyish or not).
In my case, it's about bad reasoning. I also resist bad reasonsing that leads to conclusions with which I happen to agree.

The word "consciousness" already has meaning; if he is using the word to mean something else (that he hasn't defined), he's being intellectually disingenuous. There's no excuse for that in a book that is intended to be taken seriously at face value. What he is talking about may better be described as "culture", not "consciousness". Had he used that word, (and thus invoked that concept instead of the other), I would much more readily go along. But also, in that case, he's pretty much stating the obvious. "Culture" is not a mystery. "Consciousness" is, and it is not one he has addressed, despite his use of the word. So, his book (and ideas) are dressed in the garb of significance, while being, in fact, trivial and dishonest.

As for resistance to the idea that consciousness (the way I understand it) arose in the last three thousand years, I resist it because there is a lot of reason (evidence) to suppose that it fundamentally based on the organic workings of the brain, and little reason to suppose that a change has occurred in the last three thousand years that makes our brains more different from earlier brains than they are from each other. What he proffers up does not relate to the biology and neurology of brains at all.

So, he is making an extraordinary claim with no backing, and writing about it in such a way as to obfuscate what amounts to grandiloquent sesquipedalian handwaving.

Exodies wrote:But the ful is full, and the some is partial. Awe is the base.
Actually I'm partial to some (consisting of); without it it would be just base. So what is BlitzGirl's basement ful of? Certainly some otters; base ones it would seem, as they tried to leave.

There sure seem to be a lot of them, so BlitzGirl must have a fulsome basement.

@azule - very treeish (and treerootish) ottie! I also love the texture of the ground.

Neil_Boekend wrote:Image

To make a pun
is endless fun,
so tales are spun
with each outdone.

With tails awag
we'll even drag
a punny bag
into the gag

It's so sublime
to pun in Time.
'tis not a crime
I heard him chime.

So, chance I took.
Though not a crook
I dared to brook
the BlitzGirl hook.

She cast the blame
and took her aim.
The chainsaw came
to thus reclaim

the One True Thread
from puns unsaid.
From foot to head
my blood was shed

but not in vain.
We won't abstain
from puns profane
or poems inane.

So now it's done
the thing's begun.
But item one:
it's time to run!

Jose
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Spaceman Spiff » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:02 pm UTC

What's old is new again!
BlitzGirl wrote:I saw "42 guests" while I was scanning the Who is Online section and was happy to see a fellow OTTer, until I realized there really were 42 guests. :?

Randammit, if only 42 guests was here, we could have had a username sandwich at the bottom of the thread!

on NP 462, dreiarmumig wrote:Ha.
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Albeit, a different 42guests, but the sentiment remains.


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