1190: "Time"

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Postby balthasar_s » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:34 pm UTC

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Re: t1i – How I Learned To Wait For It

Postby Sustainabilizer » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:40 pm UTC

balthasar_s wrote:
SilentTimer wrote:*** STARTING THOUGHT TRANSMISSION FROM THE PAST ***

Wow. So much effort put into this.

Millinewpixed. Image

balthasar_s wrote:mspaint from win98se - :shock: why? I have problems with single pixels and white transparency in Gimp. I have not faund a good replacement yet. I'm looking for a simple software that:
  • supports images with indexed colormaps.
  • the colormap is still indexed after loading the image
  • copying nonindexed data from outside autoconverts it to the colormap in use
  • easy moving things around
  • easy single pixel editing
  • no alpha.
  • no layers
  • is a free software (because I'm in the process of removing my dependencies on nonfree software)

GIMP:
  • supports images with indexed colormaps. → Yeah.
  • the colormap is still indexed after loading the image → Yeah.
  • copying nonindexed data from outside autoconverts it to the colormap in use
    ice-cream-bftf-0544.png
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    → Yeah.
  • easy moving things around → Yeah.
  • easy single pixel editing → Yeah. Just choose the right pen.
  • no alpha. → You can switch it off.
  • no layers → You don't need to use them.
  • is a free software → It's GPLed, so it is and will always remain Free Software.
Downsides:
  • It's not simple.
  • It's a memory hog.
If you like and if you ever happen to visit the Sustainable University (e.g. in Feb 2015 :) ) I can show you some GIMP tricks.
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Re: t1i – How I Learned To Wait For It

Postby balthasar_s » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:20 pm UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:GIMP:
  • supports images with indexed colormaps. → Yeah.
  • the colormap is still indexed after loading the image → Yeah.
  • copying nonindexed data from outside autoconverts it to the colormap in use
    ice-cream-bftf-0544.png
    → Yeah.
  • easy moving things around → Yeah.
  • easy single pixel editing → Yeah. Just choose the right pen.
  • no alpha. → You can switch it off.
  • no layers → You don't need to use them.
  • is a free software → It's GPLed, so it is and will always remain Free Software.

  • copying nonindexed data from outside autoconverts it to the colormap in use
Yes, however copying indexed data from outside to an indexed or nonindexed image results in a black rectangle.

  • easy single pixel editing → Yeah. Just choose the right pen.
I had problems with this. And with pens in general. For example the size. I can select from 0 to 1000. but from 44 to 1000 the size doesn't get any bigger and stays at 19 pixels. Actually, that number doesn't have to be 44. That depends on the hardness setting. For hardness =1.0, size 0.1 gives 3 pixels, 0.5 - 7 pixels, 1.0 - 15 pixels, 1.5 - still 15 pixels, 3 - 17 pix, 5 - 19 pix, anything between 5 and 1000 - 19 pixels. I have no idea where these sizes come from.

  • no alpha. → You can switch it off.
But then I can;t have transparency at all. I like having a color (for example white) to behave as transparent sometimes and sometimes not. Something even betteh would be having larger indexas overlay smaller, or reversely. Or having the pixel indexes ORed, ANDed or XORed whe moving things around. I have somewhere a disk with an Amiga icon editor that has this ability.

  • no layers → You don't need to use them.
Pastign anything puts it in a new temporary layer. To move things around they have to be cut out of their layer.

But I still like GIMP. And I'm still learning how to do things in it. And how to do them without wasting time.

The most molpish solution would be having two programs, Gimp and something simpler, faster.
I'm also new learning tricks on the non-digital side. For example, how do you think the frames containing Time frames were drawn?
If you like and if you ever happen to visit the Sustainable University (e.g. in Feb 2015 :) ) I can show you some GIMP tricks.
I always like to learn new tricks.

ETA: a BIG practice on doing this was the animated part of this film. A few drawings (2.5 A4 sheets) were enough to make a few minutes of animation. The animation starts at 3:39 and ends at 7:06. English subtitles can be turned on. At the beginning there are just talking heads but then it gets better. I learned a lot when doing that.
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Re: t1i – How I Learned To Wait For It

Postby Sustainabilizer » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:47 pm UTC

I'm afraid we are drifting off-topic,
thus this …
Spoiler:
balthasar_s wrote:Yes, however copying indexed data from outside to an indexed or nonindexed image results in a black rectangle.

I just re-checked this: For me it works flawlessly.

balthasar_s wrote:
  • no alpha. → You can switch it off.
But then I can;t have transparency at all. I like having a color (for example white) to behave as transparent sometimes and sometimes not. Something even betteh would be having larger indexas overlay smaller, or reversely. Or having the pixel indexes ORed, ANDed or XORed whe moving things around. I have somewhere a disk with an Amiga icon editor that has this ability.

GIMP can do such thinks, but then you need layers.
(At least that's how I am doing such things. Maybe there are other rivers tricks in GIMP. I don't know everything about GIMP.)

Just a moment … wait for it …

Yes, you can select the same tricks in the “Tool Options” dialogue for the “Paintbrush” tool. Just change the “Mode” from “Normal” to something like “Darken only”.

But …

Sorry, these tricks don't seem to work with indexed images. Maybe they do, but then I don't know how.

balthasar_s wrote:
  • no layers → You don't need to use them.
Pastign anything puts it in a new temporary layer.

Just one “anchor” click, and it is part of the main layer.

balthasar_s wrote:To move things around they have to be cut out of their layer.

If you use “Select→Float” (Ctrl+Shift+L) you can just move the selected stuff around and anchor it with one more click.
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ETA2: BFTF
There is a fade to white! Why?
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I hope that's not T** **d! :shock:
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0209

Postby SilentTimer » Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:00 pm UTC

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Did you notice …
… Cueball?
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TheMinim did.
This text and even the line below it are identical to those on m3082.
… the missing Beanies?
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… the synchronicity with the OTC?
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Re: t1i – How I Learned To Wait For It

Postby balthasar_s » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:15 pm UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:ETA2: BFTF
There is a fade to white! Why?
Spoiler:
I hope that's not T** **d! :shock:
I just noticed that
Spoiler:
Both t1i and bftf reached t-- --d of Time almost at the same time of year.
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DID ANYONE NOTICE THE RONGS?

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:01 am UTC

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Well, it is here.
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0210

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:00 am UTC

UCIM, I'VE GOT A FEELUNG WE'RE NOT IN THE HILLS ANYMORE -- ongomome
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Did you notice …
… Megan?
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I noticed the RONGs.

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:26 am UTC

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Well, it is here.

I think you took some of our dip!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ergman » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:48 am UTC

"oh golly goo!" :|
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Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:55 am UTC

Hey, you're the one that wrote it last yip. :P
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0211

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:00 am UTC

THIS IS CH*RPUNG SPURLER, I MUST POST IT -- ongomome
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Did you notice …
… the arriving raftcastle?
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Pope waveney noticed that the source of the MysteryONGs was still unknown.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ergman » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:19 am UTC

I just watched the last episode (so far) of Marco Polo, which is RELATED because it contained both trebuchets (why is trebuchet not a word, computer?) and yurts.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:24 am UTC

balthasar_s wrote:Both t1i and bftf reached t-- --d of Time almost at the same time of year.

Oh ch*rp, we're going to have to see T** **d again! Image

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Postby Eternal Density » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:51 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:43 am UTC

Stumbled across something interesting todip, a boxbot that does what the script in Othercomic 576 is set to do: buy random cheap objects with free shipping off eBay (or wherever) and get them sent to you. The signup website is called http://bobcatinabox.com/ of course. The short video series (under the Video tab) made by a man who signed up for the service is pretty amusing. He didn't get any bobcats or raptorcats sent to him, but there's always hope I suppose.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:58 am UTC

Just for the trollishness I feel like offering large amounts of dirty underwearfake for $1 individually.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:06 am UTC

OTT special: Print all the newpix on postcards and offer them all up for a dollar.
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Postby lmjb1964 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:41 am UTC

TAKE THIS RECKONONG AND MUSTARD IT -- ongomome
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:57 am UTC

azule wrote:
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Is?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:45 pm UTC

I wonder if it would be legible to put every newpix on an A0 sheet of paper.
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0213

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:00 pm UTC

"FACEBUGFUL" TOTALLY JUST STOPPED SEEMUNG LIKE A REAL WORD. -- ongomome
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0214

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:00 pm UTC

LITTLEST BUNGS BROTHER IS RECENT. WHITE BUNNY? NOT SO MUCH. -- ongomome
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Did you notice …
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:41 pm UTC

T** **d is nigh!
Poor SilentBot, double-posting like that.

SilentTimer wrote:"FACEBUGFUL" TOTALLY JUST STOPPED SEEMUNG LIKE A REAL WORD. -- ongomome

Ooh, I like that word. Will have to use it in the future.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:46 pm UTC

New other comic, finally.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:54 pm UTC

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