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1193: Externalities

Postby Nic the Man » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:39 am UTC

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https://xkcd.com/1193/

Alt:
The first NASDAQ-100 company listed on the wikipedia page 'Technology'
Mouse over words and things to see where they come from.
http://almamater.xkcd.com/
umich has the third best hash on http://almamater.xkcd.com/ ** [University Seems to Vary]
The dog gains a pound for every $10 donated to the wikimedia foundation via this link.
Currently at $1.23


Okay so by the looks of things... It's a variable comic. I'm not sure where or how. What is even happening?

By the look of things, he's having fun with HTML5 and hashing.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby rhomboidal » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:45 am UTC

I expect the dog to be able to bark the Intel jingle if I donate $20.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby philipquarles » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:05 am UTC

The company and the two schools r dynamically generated, right? Anything else?
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby Nic the Man » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:07 am UTC

I think the dog size/the amount donated is also dynamic.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby Sulnudu » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:09 am UTC

Since no one has mentioned it yet: It seems this is a competition. Break the hash at http://almamater.xkcd.com/ and you'r school will be selected for the comic. Let the fun begin (comic seems broken right now, though).
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby Ragnarok189 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:24 am UTC

The dog is getting so big! So many donations so far!
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teaser » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:28 am UTC

Darn, seems like my donation broke the comic.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby Nic the Man » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:30 am UTC

Whoa. Where did that come from. Poochie is hugie! Dammit Teaser.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby Nic the Man » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:31 am UTC

Also, has this JS Code always been there? It is the ultimate obfuscation:

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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby nanika » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:35 am UTC

Some dogs:
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65668a72a3705ffc90ac924e7d5e2a3b75c2419886474fef2f0937dc96f2f3f1.png
0c532ca12c2229379251d7b9828eeeb02cf0772ed0544875b33080187a70220a.png
The e-mail address seems like it changes with the dog size too...?
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby shashwat986 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:47 am UTC

The forum word-changer is making this conversation seem very surreal.
Apparently, 1 in 5 people in the world are Chinese. And there are 5 people in my family, so it must be one of them. It's either my mum or my dad. Or my older brother Colin. Or my younger brother Ho-Chan-Chu. But I think it's Colin -- Tim Vine
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby Tantarian » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:53 am UTC

I have a very vague idea of what is going on here. Which is to say, I'm pretty confused.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teaser » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:55 am UTC

'Google' changed to 'Intel', thanks to Nneonneo who ingeniously edited the wikipedia article on 'Technology'.

Great way to get funds btw, lured me into donating for the first time.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby pitareio » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:57 am UTC

Oh well, now we've got two dynamic comics to monitor...

Generic dog frame:

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Dog 1:

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Dog 2:

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Dog 3:

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Dog 4:

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From my cache, so I possibly missed one or two...

Edit : not sure how I got to see the last one, which is apparently bigger than the current one?
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teaser » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:05 am UTC

Well, since most people are getting bored of t-i-m-e (except for those popes and cardinals I suppose), I guess Randall is using this one to continue keeping us from doing any more useful stuff.

I've seen the bigger poochie too, the comic glitched a while ago, it probably got too big too soon.

Who's donating irrational numbers?
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby wilmotcd » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:09 am UTC

Congrats, Randall. Between "Time" and now this, you've forced me into creating an account on the board...

So, I can access the comic just fine on Firefox but it doesn't exist on Chrome. Anyone else having the same issue?
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby pitareio » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:11 am UTC

I definitely want to see the hippopotamus, elephant and brontosaurus-sized dogs.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby pitareio » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:16 am UTC

New dog! It's actually smaller than my previous Dog 4:

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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby cdxf6465 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:17 am UTC

Here are (probably) all the dog images so far:
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/comics/externalities/dc4c7f0fc61305be8102ce4b5e0f670fbcb8a2b49e0224eb830321490768d6b3.png
/comics/externalities/65668a72a3705ffc90ac924e7d5e2a3b75c2419886474fef2f0937dc96f2f3f1.png
/comics/externalities/498e61a5f13716cafc682b2201a3bd6a34c243d4c0cf0735e71c72480d4409ff.png
/comics/externalities/68e56bf8a81288e3705be81cbfc745db983b7fa42b0748225628f2eb8e16d78b.png
/comics/externalities/718eb41083928b1985c7f99ee971d086850d8be152b7e89184f918d68d73b959.png
/comics/externalities/0c532ca12c2229379251d7b9828eeeb02cf0772ed0544875b33080187a70220a.png

Somebody take over, I'm going to bed.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teaser » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:29 am UTC

I edited the comic. Hi Amazon.com, Inc.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby pitareio » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:31 am UTC

Updated dogs list:
Spoiler:
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby TheLochNessCheeseBurger » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:35 am UTC

Ah, I see, it changes the comic based on the leader!
http://almamater.xkcd.com/be st/ without the space. Damn word changer
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby Amarantamin » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:41 am UTC

Ah, I have been (once again) banned from Wikipedia for unwarranted, plagiaristic edits, but I must say that it was absolutely worth it for the brief few seconds that 'Adobe' was the company in question. Noted that the stick-figure's response changed when the company changed; is it possible that there is a custom response for every one of the 100 companies?

It's unfortunate that's not a value we can edit for long. 'Google' is only mentioned in the references, though it appears that recently someone has removed that and replaced it with 'Amazon'. I am really curious to see what every possible result would yield!
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby pitareio » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:47 am UTC

Didn't take very long before someone protected http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research . Give us our money back!
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby phlip » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:51 am UTC

OK, so for the benefit of people who come by later and are confused by what the big deal was: Many things in this comic change, depending on external sources. If you leave the page open, it automatically updates itself every so often from a data-streaming server (same one being used for Time - it's probably how they could get Time's fancy streaming load-balancing system up so quickly when that turned out to be overloading the servers, they already were getting it built for this).

For what I'm guessing is a big 1 April thing, xkcd is running some sort of crypto challenge, to break a single Skein hash, here. Some number of different universities are working on it, to various degrees of success. The university who's currently in the lead (as of this posting, Stanford, who's managed to find a string that, when hashed, matches the target hash on 622 bits, getting 402 bits wrong (for a purely random string you'd expect 512 and 512, so that's better than average, but still a long way to go). The name of the university in the first panel, and the text of the fourth panel, depends on which university is in the lead. The text in the fifth panel, including the text on the application itself, depends on which university is coming third.
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Texts I've seen:
For first place (First panel opener // Fourth panel):
Ahoy, carnegie melonites! // Our recruiters are on the hunt for unaware CMU graduates
Hey berkeley students! // We borrowed the botanical gardens' net to catch promising recruits.
Hey stanford students! // We hired a new recruiting startup to help us hire Stanford students.
Hey uw students! // Our recruiting team is on the lookout for promising young uw graduates.

For third place:
or Cal graduates. provided any of them manage to fill out the application right. // Name: SEGMENTATION FAULT // Email: save trees // Education: Contra dancing.
or brown graduates, provided any of them manage to fill out the application correctly. // Name: My buddy // Email: the hotmail // Education: on going problems with birds
or caltech graduates, provided any of them manage to fill out the application correctly. // Name: I'm applying // Email: caltech.gov // Education: on going problems with birds
or cmu graduates, provided any of them manage to fill out the application correctly. // Name: leeroy jenkins // Email: me@car // Education: I can cut up melons
or mit graduates, provided any of them manage to fill out the application correctly. // Name: Oliver Smoot // Email: pgp encrypted // Education: have you ever really looked at the fourier
or rice graduates, provided any of them manage to fill out the application correctly. // Name: I'm applying // Email: rice.gov // Education: on going problems with birds
or umich graduates, provided any of them manage to fill out the application correctly. // Name: Ann // Email: South detroit // Education: Hunt like a wolverine
or uw graduates, provided any of them manage to fill out the application correctly. // Name: george // Email: what's that // Education: I can't hear you, speak up


Meanwhile, it's watching various Wikipedia pages, to catch which (NASDAQ-100) company is the first one to be linked to in that page. Obviously, that page is currently being vandalised to all hell, as any Wikipedia mention on xkcd seems to cause, because people are morons. Which leads Wikipedia to protect the page, and then xkcd changes which page the strip watches. Anyway, whichever company it picks up is mentioned in panel 1, and changes the text of panels 2 and 3, the caption at the top of panel 6, and the email address in the final panel.
Spoiler:
Texts I've seen: (First panel main // First panel comment // Second panel caption // Second panel first line // Second panel second line // Third panel text // Sixth panel caption // Email address)
Be part of the Apple experience. // I'm not really a fan of turtlenecks. // We can't tell you what you'll be working on. // [CONFIDENTIAL] // [REDACTED] // Free roomba rides every morning while you have coffee. // At Apple, we believe in pushing the boundary of perfection. // Be One With Us
Be part of the Apple experience. // I'm not really a fan of turtlenecks. // We can't tell you what you'll be working on. // [CONFIDENTIAL] // [REDACTED] // Your roomba comes in black & slate, or white & silver // At Apple, we believe in pushing the boundary of perfection. // Be One With Us
Come work at Microsoft. // Only in my darkest moments. // You'll be an insignificant cog in our giant machine // Let's improve notepad // Nah // Just up the coast a litle bit. // At Microsoft Corporation, you'll have the opportunity to work on cutting-edge projects. // Microsoft Works
Come work at Microsoft. // I only came to this tech talk for the xbox giveaway. // You'll be an insignificant cog in our giant machine // Let's improve notepad // Nah // Just up the coast a litle bit. // At Microsoft, you just need to relax and embrace the machine // Microsoft Works
Come work at Microsoft. // I only came to this tech talk for the xbox giveaway. // You'll be an insignificant cog in our giant machine // Needs more Bob. // Nah // Just a short roomba ride up the coast, try not to fall off. // At Microsoft, you just need to relax and embrace the machine // Microsoft Works
Come work in the Amazon! // I don't have to actually move to South America, do I? // You'll be creating the future of commerce platforms! // More recommendations. // Yep. // Only a short commuter flight away! // At Amazon, you'll be shaving the most cutting-edge of yaks. // freeprime@amazon.com
Do I get a free hard drive? // Only in my darkest moments. // You'll be part of a dynamic research team envisioning the future // It probably looks cool. // Yeahhh // We're so close you can get to us by roomba. // At Seagate Technology., you'll have the opportunity to work on cutting-edge projects. // careers@Seagate Technology.
Have you applied to Google yet? // The recruiter hasn't emailed me back in over 17 minutes! // When the Singularity happens, it will happen here. // Google has outgrown us. // It is time. // We're a convenient four hour drive from New York City (15,000 hours by roomba) // At Google, you'll work at a scale you won't find anywhere else. // megadog-team@google
Have you applied to Google yet? // The recruiter hasn't emailed me back in over 38 minutes! // When the Singularity happens, it will happen here. // Google has outgrown us. // It is time. // We're a convenient four hour drive from New York City (15,000 hours by roomba) // At Google, you'll work at a scale you won't find anywhere else. // megadog-team@google
Have you applied to Google yet? // The recruiter hasn't emailed me back in over an hour! // When the Singularity happens, it will happen here. // Google has outgrown us. // It is time. // Travel to us by roomba, we're *that* close! // At Google, you'll work at a scale you won't find anywhere else. // megadog-team@google
Have you thought of a career at Xilinx, Inc.? // What do they even do? // You'll be part of a dynamic research team envisioning the future // It probably looks cool. // Yeahhh // We're a convenient four hour drive from New York City (15,000 hours by roomba) // At Xilinx, Inc., you'll have the opportunity to work on cutting-edge projects. // careers@Xilinx, Inc.

I've also seen one for News Corporation, and others have mentioned it saying Intel, but I don't have the full text for those.


Finally, there's a xkcd April-first donation drive for Wikipedia being run (probably to make reparations for the above), and the higher the donations, the larger the dog that appears in the bottom panel. There are other posts above cataloguing all of these images.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teaser » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:59 am UTC

Originally the NASDAQ company was taken from the wikipedia page on Technology, but that page had been protected fairly quickly. I reckon the page will keep changing. Busy day for the wikipedia mods! Let them earn those donations!
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teelo » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:59 am UTC

Hahaha:

XKCD-related vandalism

Warning, the current XKCD comic is partly generated by using Wikipedia articles ( https://xkcd.com/1193/ ). This is why some IP are modifying article such as this one or Technology : they are adding companies names such as "News Corporation" or "Yahoo" in this article to modify the comic. You will probably have to clean up this article in a few days to check that no random insert is still here. Ksempac (talk) 09:42, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


They're so paranoid. Oh boo hoo, so someone is having a bit of fun. Pff protected.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teaser » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:05 am UTC

There was already a warning on top of the talk page

So XKCD has decided to create a dynamic comic that looks for the first NASDAQ-100 company listed in this page (http://xkcd.com/1193/). As such there may be a flood of edits throughout the day with people experimenting (I know I was tempted to...). So just keep that in mind. Its April Fools day after all. --Jaryth000 (talk) 09:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


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(and they still haven't removed my amazon link)
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teelo » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:10 am UTC

Hay!

I vandalized the wikipedia page for Profit_(economics), but the comic didn't change to reflect it :(
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teaser » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:16 am UTC

That's probably because 10 people are vandalizing at the same time.

Currently Apple. Funny.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teelo » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:19 am UTC

Nah it looks like the xkcd server only checks the wikipedia page every couple of minutes. I changed it to eBay, and refreshed both the xkcd page and wikipedia. About a minute later, the comic updated to show eBay, and a few seconds later someone edited it to QUALCOMM, but it took another minute or so for the comic to update.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teaser » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:23 am UTC

Also.

What idiot keeps vandalizing with Microsoft? We've seen it already!
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teelo » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:25 am UTC

Im trying to blank the page so we can see what happens to the comic.

That Luk guy is really fast at reverting it though.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby hordriss » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:28 am UTC

teelo wrote:|'m trying to blank the page so we ca­n see wha­t happens to the comic.

That Luk guy is really fast at reverting it though.

C­an w­e fi­nd th­eir ti­mezo­ne o­r IP?
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teaser » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:30 am UTC

teelo wrote:Im trying to blank the page so we tin see hwæt happens to the comic.

It just keeps the last one it found. Has been done hours ago. On the Internet, nothing is new.

Protected again. Next: Capitalism
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby teelo » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:30 am UTC

Don't think so. He is a "janitor" (lol). A mini-admin. He banned me for 31 hours, but whatever. Dynamic IP. Brb to keep vandalizing!

I find it funny that this guy has nothing better to do than sit there ruining our harmless fun.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby hordriss » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:31 am UTC

C­an we fill it with Alt + 0173?
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby Locoluis » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:32 am UTC

It's all fun and games until the placement of the knobs produces innocent real-world bystanders.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby hordriss » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:37 am UTC

| want to kno­w how to change the melons sentence and the first part of the email address.
NVM, it's related to the alma mater.
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Re: 1193: Externalities

Postby KarMann » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:40 am UTC

Nic the Man wrote:Also, hath this JS Code always been there? It be the ultimate obfuscation:

<snip big minified JS>

No, it's new, and it looks very much like the code that was used for the Tіme comic this past week. I'm thinking that was a testbed for this one. A test that may have gotten out of hand.

Added: I'm sore tempted to abuse my Wikipedia admin rights. Stay good, KarMann! Stay good!

Also added: This makes it quite easy to use the script that was developed for the Tіme strip to get the relevant data for this one, with a little straightforward adaptation. Too bad I haven't been logging since the beginning; I only have less than the past hour now.
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