1195: "Flowchart"

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Is 1195: Flowchart the worst xkcd ever?

Yes, but I guess no one can blame the author after the time and effort spent on Time and Externalities
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Yes, it's lame and he shouldn't have posted it at all
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No, it's not great but I've seen worse
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No, I like it
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A flowchart is neither a float nor a shart: discuss.
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1195: "Flowchart"

Postby pitareio » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:18 am UTC

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Alt text: The way out is to use the marker you have to add a box that says "get a marker" to the line between you and "start", then add a "no" line from the trap box to "end".

Quite simple comic, for a change.
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Primis » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:22 am UTC

Aww you beat me! I admit defeat.
I'll go quietly...
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby rhomboidal » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:22 am UTC

That flowchart needs more fiber.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Demki » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:23 am UTC

Reminds me of that episode of The Big Bang Theory in which Sheldon tries to be friends with that guy to get access to the good computers.
One should not mess with flow charts.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Quicksilver » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:50 am UTC

Lame recursive flowchart ftl.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby ocean_soul » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:42 am UTC

Question: on what page, and which number of reply, in this forum will someone post the comic with the escape?
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby edenist » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:10 am UTC

Dammit!

Now my monitor has marker on it!

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Klear » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:38 am UTC

If I made the flowchart, instead of "Yes" there would be "Give the author a dollar."

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby azule » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:47 am UTC

Incredibly lame.

I've seen so many of these, how does this one even compare? Sheldon's (BBT) was mentioned. I almost think I even remember a previous xkcd flowchart with a recursion. *shrug* Maybe not.

Simple is okay, just...eck, don't even know how to express what I expect.

I actually thought the "IS A TRAP" part might have indicated a reference to Jedi. I'm not sure what it would mean, but that might have improved this comic.
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Flumble » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:05 am UTC

azule wrote:I almost think I even remember a previous xkcd flowchart with a recursion. *shrug* Maybe not.

You're probably thinking of the flowchart for good code. Yes, that one was more fun than this comic.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Klear » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:19 am UTC

Flumble wrote:
azule wrote:I almost think I even remember a previous xkcd flowchart with a recursion. *shrug* Maybe not.

You're probably thinking of the flowchart for good code. Yes, that one was more fun than this comic.


I prefer the guide myself.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby pitareio » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:52 am UTC

Primis wrote:Aww you beat me! I admit defeat.
I'll go quietly...


I was surprised I could be the first to create the thread, I'm not too much of a ninja. More on the turtle side.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby cellocgw » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:00 pm UTC

Luckily my FLowchart Operating System Sequencer (FLOSS) has a hardwired timeout. And in units of microseconds, NOT Longpix.
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby blowfishhootie » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:30 pm UTC

Given his recent efforts, I can forgive the author for phoning this one in. Still, probably the least thought-provoking XKCD comic ever.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby dp2 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:42 pm UTC

It's not the recursion that cracked me up, it's the simple "yes".

Apparently even if the comic is simply related to coding, people don't like it. I'm honestly shocked, is the coder audience here really so small?

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby RAGBRAIvet » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:47 pm UTC

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Klear » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:11 pm UTC

Now that I think of it, the comic would be much more funny if there was a second line, also leading back, labelled "no".

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby rmsgrey » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:14 pm UTC

Klear wrote:If I made the flowchart, instead of "Yes" there would be "Give the author a dollar."


Why not as an additional action on the loop?

Of course, as soon as you have any sort of incremental action in the loop, you incur an inevitable over-/under-flow error - in this case, probably an Overdraft Overflow Error.

Besides, if you want to get money out of a logician, it's quicker to just say to them: "If I am telling the truth, you must give me a thousand dollars"...

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby CoupleK » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:18 pm UTC

I liked it :)

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Milnoc » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:34 pm UTC

That diamond doesn't contain a question! It contains a statement of fact! It should have been a rectangle!

BAD flowchart! BAD BAD flowchart! You're fired! :P

Also, "It's A Trap!" means something else entirely in some of the more shady parts of the Internet. ;)

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby The Scyphozoa » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:38 pm UTC

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Someone. Find me an xkcd worse than this. I dare you.

You can't do it, can you? This is the worst one, isn't it?
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby pitareio » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:57 pm UTC

The Scyphozoa wrote:......
Someone. Find me an xkcd worse than this. I dare you.

You can't do it, can you? This is the worst one, isn't it?


879 was... questionable. (And questioned.)

I don't have a problem with this one. Everyone needed a break after Time and Externalities.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby rmsgrey » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:23 pm UTC

pitareio wrote:
The Scyphozoa wrote:......
Someone. Find me an xkcd worse than this. I dare you.

You can't do it, can you? This is the worst one, isn't it?


879 was... questionable. (And questioned.)

I don't have a problem with this one. Everyone needed a break after Time and Externalities.


What do you mean, "after" Time?

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby wurlitzer153 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:29 pm UTC

The way out is to generate a Trap exception and let the exception handler handle it. Bonus if you have a watchdog timer set.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby ashhurredly » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:38 pm UTC

What if this is a commentary on 1190? Life has become a flowchart that we are all trapped in.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby dp2 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:51 pm UTC

The Scyphozoa wrote:......
Someone. Find me an xkcd worse than this. I dare you.

You can't do it, can you? This is the worst one, isn't it?

How far back am I allowed to go?
http://xkcd.com/9/
http://xkcd.com/14/
http://xkcd.com/38/
http://xkcd.com/46/

I'm not going through the other ~1150 to find more.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:58 pm UTC

dp2 wrote:
The Scyphozoa wrote:......
Someone. Find me an xkcd worse than this. I dare you.

You can't do it, can you? This is the worst one, isn't it?

How far back am I allowed to go?
http://xkcd.com/9/
http://xkcd.com/14/
http://xkcd.com/38/
http://xkcd.com/46/

I'm not going through the other ~1150 to find more.

With the exception of the first, I think those are all better than this one, or at least comparable.
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby blowfishhootie » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:15 pm UTC

dp2 wrote:It's not the recursion that cracked me up, it's the simple "yes".

Apparently even if the comic is simply related to coding, people don't like it. I'm honestly shocked, is the coder audience here really so small?


Since when are flowcharts - or, in other words, step by step instructions for doing ANYTHING - the exclusive domain of coding? Because without that assumption, I don't see how this comic is related to coding in even the remotely slightest way.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby ctdonath » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:53 pm UTC

dp2 wrote:http://xkcd.com/9/
A historical artifact, showing Randall working out how minimalist he wanted to go. Takes a while to pulling off bare stick figures as an effective array of characters.
http://xkcd.com/14/
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Impressive expression of sadness.

So...where's the examples of bad?

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby JudeMorrigan » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:02 pm UTC

Heck, ymmv and all that good stuff, but for me, this isn't even the worst flowchart strip he's done. From my point of view, this had more of a joke than Learning to Cook (859) did. Not that this one is exactly a high point for xkcd, but as others have said, I'm sure this was just a result of the time and effort that Time and Externalities took.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby maxmaxmaxmax » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:19 pm UTC

Dear Randall,
If you don't have enough good comic ideas to do 3/week, that's ok. Please do not force yourself to churn out comics if they are going to be lame, repetitive, and a recycling of old comics, such as this one. Do 1 a week, 1 a month, whenever you can! Just do whatever to maintain the high quality of your comics. This one sucks.
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby azule » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:26 pm UTC

^Heh. Such balls. lol. I'd say make them, but 1-5 a week would be fine. 1 when the creative juices are drying up. 5 when they're overflowing. 3 (the current norm) the rest of the time. Also, only 1 complex to pull off comic a month. Thank you. 8-)

dp2 wrote:It's not the recursion that cracked me up, it's the simple "yes".

Apparently even if the comic is simply related to coding, people don't like it. I'm honestly shocked, is the coder audience here really so small?

What?! I'm a coder. As said above by blowfishhootie this isn't exclusive to coding, it's a flowchart.


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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby pitareio » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:58 pm UTC

Reminds me of this comic by The Oatmeal, explaining why he only updates once in a while : http://theoatmeal.com/comics/making_things

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby The Scyphozoa » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:08 pm UTC

dp2 wrote:
The Scyphozoa wrote:......
Someone. Find me an xkcd worse than this. I dare you.

You can't do it, can you? This is the worst one, isn't it?

How far back am I allowed to go?
http://xkcd.com/9/
http://xkcd.com/14/
http://xkcd.com/38/
http://xkcd.com/46/

I'm not going through the other ~1150 to find more.

Okay...46 is bad. But 9 is at least cool if you like Firefly, and the other two in fact got a chuckle out of me.

I agree with a few people above me - I'd like it if xkcd dropped its schedule and Randall updated on a "when I feel like it" basis.
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby abyssalmole » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:14 pm UTC

I think there is more to this one than some of you are giving it credit for.

The only way out is to realize that you already have the power to make a way out, and use that power to realize that you have that power.

I'm not going to say that Randall is telling you the path to enlightenment (realize that you're already enlightened enough to realize that you're enlightened) because that would be absurd, so I'm just going to leave this here, and see what conclusion you decide to take away from it.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby pitareio » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:47 pm UTC

Poll created. Let the community speak their minds.

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Fire Brns » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:59 pm UTC

if just anyone had made it I might have chuckled but It doesn't hold up to xkcd standards. Otherwise I agree with the first line of The Scyphozoa's last post.
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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby LAN-f34r » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:31 pm UTC

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Yea, liking things! Woo!

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Re: 1195: "Flowchart"

Postby Locoluis » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:05 am UTC

There's a way out of this trap at the iteration #15,532.

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