1212: "Interstellar Memes"

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1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Goggalor » Wed May 15, 2013 4:13 am UTC

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Title Text: The strongest incentive we have to develop faster-than-light travel is that it would let us apologize in advance.
Is this the first time "fuck" has been used in a comic?
Also, this makes me realize humanity has gotten far more annoying in the past century or so.

EDIT: added title text.
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby rhomboidal » Wed May 15, 2013 4:14 am UTC

Hehe, and in a neighboring galaxy, they're watching Andromedan Idol.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed May 15, 2013 4:30 am UTC

Where in there is "fuck"? Never-ki-mind, mother-found-it.

Also, where in here is the alt text?
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Goggalor » Wed May 15, 2013 4:36 am UTC

I mother-fixed-it. The click through to the big version distracted me.
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Ethliel » Wed May 15, 2013 4:56 am UTC

I almost didn't catch the fact that Sirius was talking about Bellatrix.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby rwald » Wed May 15, 2013 5:09 am UTC

You think "fuck" hasn't previously appeared in the comic? Fuck. That. Shit.

What I wonder, though, is why Gliese 581 wasn't included. It's 22 light-years away, in the right zone for this comic, plus it's got multiple planets, including three in or near the habitable zone.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby jpk » Wed May 15, 2013 5:27 am UTC

So are we supposed to be figuring out the distance to the stars from the age of the memes, or the other way around?

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby tsadi » Wed May 15, 2013 5:28 am UTC

Serious question: So if a person travels FTL to the destination star system to apologize in advance for a broadcast they haven't received yet - does that imply time travel? Or time travel but from the point of view of the people in that star system only, but surely not from the point of view of the traveller?

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby leftnotracks » Wed May 15, 2013 5:34 am UTC

How can a star 74 light years away receive a broadcast less than 37 years old?

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby jpk » Wed May 15, 2013 5:49 am UTC

tsadi wrote:Serious question: So if a person travels FTL to the destination star system to apologize in advance for a broadcast they haven't received yet - does that imply time travel? Or time travel but from the point of view of the people in that star system only, but surely not from the point of view of the traveller?


It certainly implies that, from the point of view of the visited system, the traveller comes from the future. It's not so clear to me that the traveller has travelled into their own past in any interesting way, if they land at this distant star.
However, if they can make a round trip, then yes, they've made a bit of time travel. Go them.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby phlip » Wed May 15, 2013 5:55 am UTC

tsadi wrote:Serious question: So if a person travels FTL to the destination star system to apologize in advance for a broadcast they haven't received yet - does that imply time travel?

Not by itself... at least, in the same sense that Concorde doesn't travel back in time just because it arrives before you can hear it. In the old Newtonian models of the universe, where FTL was possible, going faster than light is the same thing as going faster than sound, you have a barrier to push through, but pushing through it isn't impossible, and sure, you can overtake certain signals, but that still doesn't mean you're time-travelling.

However, add Relativity into the mix, and suddenly it gets a lot more complicated. A single FTL trip still isn't inherently time-travel, but you can use FTL travel in certain configurations to travel to your own past. Or at the very least send a signal to your own past. Which does imply wibbly-wobbliness.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby glasnt » Wed May 15, 2013 6:15 am UTC

Goooood burger!

It's good that I don't recognise all of these memes.

And i'm sure that a few aren't really memes, but just quotes, either vintage or overused. (The first time I heard rosebud was in Over The Hedge, but that's just me being not american, I guess)

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby da Doctah » Wed May 15, 2013 6:26 am UTC

So where's the star system that's running through the massive catchphrase output of Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In and Get Smart? And the slightly nearer one that's gobbling up the early years of SNL?

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed May 15, 2013 6:40 am UTC

Does that mean that the Daleks will get their signature "EXTERMINATE!" from us?
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby NoMouse » Wed May 15, 2013 6:51 am UTC

My God, it's full of stars!
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Vieto » Wed May 15, 2013 7:43 am UTC

Of course, the inverse square law would make any of those signals nothing more than white noise by the time they reached Alpha Centauri, so problem solved!

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Fire Brns » Wed May 15, 2013 7:45 am UTC

I was mildly disturbed to see another star saying "resistance is futile".

Actually, half of the sci-fi ones are disturbing to imagine.
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby zac6x9 » Wed May 15, 2013 7:49 am UTC

My problem is that Gone with the wind was a movie filmed on celluloid and was not broadcast on TV until 1956 or 57 years ago and Alpha Serpentis is 74 light years away.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby CharlieP » Wed May 15, 2013 8:27 am UTC

This also assumes that the distant star systems haven't undergone digital switchover already, and are still using NTSC or PAL.
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Angelastic » Wed May 15, 2013 8:38 am UTC

This reminds me of an article a friend of mine wrote for a website I (appropriately) have only updated twice in ten years.
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Klear » Wed May 15, 2013 8:57 am UTC

rwald wrote:You think "fuck" hasn't previously appeared in the comic? Fuck. That. Shit.


There's also "Fuck computational linguists", "Fuck grapefruit", and... whoa, a whole lot more.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby jonas » Wed May 15, 2013 9:05 am UTC

This seems to me like an inferior repeat of Abstruse Goose comics strip 163: Electromagnetic Leak

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Klear » Wed May 15, 2013 9:42 am UTC

jonas wrote:This seems to me like an inferior repeat of Abstruse Goose comics strip 163: Electromagnetic Leak


That's much more clear. Thanks for the link!

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby da Doctah » Wed May 15, 2013 9:45 am UTC

zac6x9 wrote:My problem is that Gone with the wind was a movie filmed on celluloid and was not broadcast on TV until 1956 or 57 years ago and Alpha Serpentis is 74 light years away.
But surely the relevant lines of dialogue were picked up as cultural touchstones by comedians on radio almost immediately when the film hit theaters in 1939! The Alpha Serpentians or whatever they call themselves will think they're quoting not Vivien Leigh and Clark Gable but the likes of Fred Allen and The Great Gildersleeve.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Klear » Wed May 15, 2013 9:54 am UTC

Fire Brns wrote:I was mildly disturbed to see another star saying "resistance is futile".

Actually, half of the sci-fi ones are disturbing to imagine.


Imagine how disturbing they have to be to the other civilizations that receive them. For them, we are the aliens.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby teelo » Wed May 15, 2013 10:03 am UTC

Over nine thousand was left out :(

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Plutarch » Wed May 15, 2013 10:20 am UTC

This assumes that aliens would show a preference for American and British pop culture. They might not. They might prefer Japanese, or Chinese, or Indian. They might all be repeating their favourite Japanese phrases from anime, or copying cosplay, or massed Bollywood dancing.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby squonk » Wed May 15, 2013 10:26 am UTC

じゃ、いつやるの?

いまでしょう。

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby cellocgw » Wed May 15, 2013 1:20 pm UTC

da Doctah wrote:
zac6x9 wrote:My problem is that Gone with the wind was a movie filmed on celluloid and was not broadcast on TV until 1956 or 57 years ago and Alpha Serpentis is 74 light years away.
But surely the relevant lines of dialogue were picked up as cultural touchstones by comedians on radio almost immediately when the film hit theaters in 1939! The Alpha Serpentians or whatever they call themselves will think they're quoting not Vivien Leigh and Clark Gable but the likes of Fred Allen and The Great Gildersleeve.


My thoughts exactly. Why did Randall leave out "What evil lurks in the hearts of men," "Henryyyyyyy!", "Hi-Ho Silver...." and other greats from the radios days? Which reminds me - if all those stars listen to "War of the Worlds" they'll decide not to fuck w/ Earthlings.
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby wolf99 » Wed May 15, 2013 1:38 pm UTC

So whats the oldest one on there? (not old enough, or versed enough in stellar distances, to posit an answer myself!)

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby SerMufasa » Wed May 15, 2013 1:40 pm UTC

Plutarch wrote:This assumes that aliens would show a preference for American and British pop culture. They might not. They might prefer Japanese, or Chinese, or Indian. They might all be repeating their favourite Japanese phrases from anime, or copying cosplay, or massed Bollywood dancing.


You're assuming that Randall is reporting all memes being repeated on other systems. He is simply reporting those familiar with his target audience.
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby richP » Wed May 15, 2013 2:22 pm UTC

Random thoughts on the comic:
* No "who's on first?"
* Astounding that there are so many stars within such a narrow band of broadcast time/distance.
* The Bond and Bugs Bunny references don't really narrow down a time window very much, do they (early 1960s through present day for Bond, late 1930s to now for Bugs).

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Locoluis » Wed May 15, 2013 2:51 pm UTC

IF Ǝ ÞŔ STĀ SIS TMZ Ā LIS N IG IN ÅN AWŔ PÅP KƎL ČŔ
GI VN Þ SPĪD ƎV LAYT DI LĒ
ÞĪZ Ā Þ ǦŌKS ƎND KAČ FRĒZ Z ÞĒ ǦƎST LŔN D Ǝ BAWT ƎND Ā KŔ NT LĪ RI PĪ TIG WĒ TŪ MƎČ

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby bmonk » Wed May 15, 2013 3:33 pm UTC

At least some stars, like Rigel and Betelgeuse, are still safe for a few centuries.
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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Someguy945 » Wed May 15, 2013 4:16 pm UTC

I was hoping one of the catchphrases would be "I heard about it on the Interblag!"

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Postby Bob Stein - VisiBone » Wed May 15, 2013 5:27 pm UTC

Point of order, how will they pick up internet videos, will they have to hack into 802.11g and SSL??

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Re: YouTube Wireless

Postby Jackpot777 » Wed May 15, 2013 7:51 pm UTC

Bob Stein - VisiBone wrote:Point of order, how will they pick up internet videos, will they have to hack into 802.11g and SSL??


Tosh.0 must have leaked from a DirecTV satellite.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby LordHorst » Wed May 15, 2013 7:58 pm UTC

"Oh... my... Gawwd!" <- I was thinking that this came from the first Resident Evil. Barry says something like this when you discover the dead Forrest on the balcony: Here at 3:14. But the math doesn't work out. Resident Evil was released in 1996. Sigma Draconis is 19 Light Years away. Hm. :(

Also, it can't be Troll 2 either. Because THAT quote would be "Oh my goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!"

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby Jackpot777 » Wed May 15, 2013 7:58 pm UTC

Locoluis wrote:IF Ǝ ÞŔ STĀ SIS TMZ Ā LIS N IG IN ÅN AWŔ PÅP KƎL ČŔ
GI VN Þ SPĪD ƎV LAYT DI LĒ
ÞĪZ Ā Þ ǦŌKS ƎND KAČ FRĒZ Z ÞĒ ǦƎST LŔN D Ǝ BAWT ƎND Ā KŔ NT LĪ RI PĪ TIG WĒ TŪ MƎČ

:?

Actually, an APL program would make more sense to them than our spoken language.


Can we start a movement to reinstall the thorn (Þ) back in the English language as the "th" letter?

At the very least, it'll get rid of the "ye olde shoppe" bollocks.

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Re: 1212: "Interstellar Memes"

Postby da Doctah » Wed May 15, 2013 8:16 pm UTC

LordHorst wrote:"Oh... my... Gawwd!" <- I was thinking that this came from the first Resident Evil. Barry says something like this when you discover the dead Forrest on the balcony: Here at 3:14. But the math doesn't work out. Resident Evil was released in 1996. Sigma Draconis is 19 Light Years away. Hm. :(

Also, it can't be Troll 2 either. Because THAT quote would be "Oh my goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!"


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