1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

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1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Freiberg » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:08 am UTC

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Alt-text: "I may be the kind of person who wastes a year implementing a Turing-complete computer in Dwarf Fortress, but that makes you the kind of person who wastes ten more getting that computer to run Minecraft."

Sadly, the internet has already proven that unintelligent comments and tedious repetition are not enough to deter government surveillance. :-(

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby rhomboidal » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:14 am UTC

"Dwarf Fortress" is my affectionate nickname for government bureaucracy.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Quicksilver » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:05 am UTC

Dwarf Fortressception.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby CFG9000 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:08 am UTC

There's something quite calming about the fact that no matter how much an issue makes me rage, XKCD can find a way to make me laugh about it.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Showsni » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:09 am UTC

New life goal: build a computer in Dwarf Fortress capable of emulating Minecraft, and then build a computer within that emulation capable of running Dwarf Fortress.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:07 am UTC

I can take solace in the fact that either the government does not have enough employees assigned to watch someone so supposedly non-mundane as I am or that I get the opportunity to personally freak out some government agent.

http://xkcd.com/525/


I wonder if the NSA surveillance offices have a list in the break-room of the most weird and interesting people to listen in on.

Randall has to be on this list. The government uses him to strengthen their raptor-defense programs.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby hailthefish » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:26 am UTC

The real question is how long the NSA has known about the cat-sized dwarves bug and kept it hidden.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Markavian » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:14 am UTC

In DF, the player can only suggest what the dwarves do... what they choose to do is their own decision. If we choose to play DF instead of the tasks assigned to us by our overseers, does this mean that they've failed?

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Markavian » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:16 am UTC

hailthefish wrote:The real question is how long the NSA has known about the cat-sized dwarves bug and kept it hidden.


By another name they're called lions.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby HungryHobo » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:47 am UTC

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby A duck » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:55 am UTC

HungryHobo wrote:Awesome image


So where does Nethack come under that?
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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Klear » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:56 am UTC

I've been putting off starting a new fort for some time now... (since I've seen The Hobbit, to be precise). I guess it's time to cave in, hopefully not literally.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Harry Voyager » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:01 pm UTC

So wait, does this mean we're living out a real life versions of boatmurdered?

That does explain the ammo shortages...

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby peewee_RotA » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:43 pm UTC

Hipster: "I liked it before it got cool"
Nerdy Hipster: "I liked it before it was featured on XKCD and everyone wiki'd it."
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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:10 pm UTC

Randall got Ninja'd on this one. See the Twitter feed @NSA_PRISM or something close to that. Oh, here it is https://twitter.com/PRISM_NSA
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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby da Doctah » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:47 pm UTC

rhomboidal wrote:"Dwarf Fortress" is my affectionate nickname for government bureaucracy.

I believe they prefer the term "Little Person Fortress" now.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby San Fran Sam » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:59 pm UTC

peewee_RotA wrote:Hipster: "I liked it before it got cool"
Nerdy Hipster: "I liked it before it was featured on XKCD and everyone wiki'd it."


Old fart (that would be me): "Never heard of it."

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby TenebraeBR » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:13 pm UTC

I *KNEW* Mr Munroe had knowledge -- if he isn't an avid player -- of Dwarf Fortress.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby yellow103 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:17 pm UTC

Who watches the people watching us? and who watches them?
Answer: one eye on the screen, one on the mirror.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby rmsgrey » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:21 pm UTC

yellow103 wrote:Who watches the people watching us? and who watches them?
Answer: one eye on the screen, one on the mirror.


Sam Vimes.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Wnderer » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:39 pm UTC

yellow103 wrote:Who watches the people watching us? and who watches them?
Answer: one eye on the screen, one on the mirror.


It's not people who are watching us. It's a machine. Software, neural networks A.I. monitoring everything you do. Every so often popping up someone's name. Bring this guy in for questioning, put this one on a no fly list, freeze this bank account, audit this guy's taxes. Every year the machine gets more sophisticated. More powerful. Dwarf Fortress is playing you.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Klear » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:15 pm UTC

Wnderer wrote:
yellow103 wrote:Who watches the people watching us? and who watches them?
Answer: one eye on the screen, one on the mirror.


It's not people who are watching us. It's a machine. Software, neural networks A.I. monitoring everything you do. Every so often popping up someone's name. Bring this guy in for questioning, put this one on a no fly list, freeze this bank account, audit this guy's taxes. Every year the machine gets more sophisticated. More powerful. Dwarf Fortress is playing you.


Isn't that only in soviet Russia?

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby TimXCampbell » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:49 pm UTC

I'd like to confess something ...

I don't like games where I die and die and die. But I love games with dynamically-generated content. So every time I've played NetHack, I would hack the save file.

Was that cheating? Or did the game's name encourage that approach?

P.S. Hacking the NetHack save file isn't exactly easy. But if it was easy, it wouldn't be satisfying, would it?

P.P.S. Everybody enjoys games in their own way. Don't judge me, unless you can be funny while doing so.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby snowyowl » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:57 pm UTC

TimXCampbell: Seems like overkill when you could just use Wizard Mode. That's what it's for.
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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Freiberg » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:18 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:Randall got Ninja'd on this one. See the Twitter feed @NSA_PRISM or something close to that. Oh, here it is https://twitter.com/PRISM_NSA


That twitter feed made my day. Thank you.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby ekolis » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:12 pm UTC

Someday there should be an episode of The Simpsons where Homer gets addicted to a role-playing simulation game called "The Sim-Sims", in which you roleplay as a simulated person who is into playing roleplaying simulation games.
Reading posts on the xkcd forum makes me feel stupid.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby ekolis » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:15 pm UTC

Showsni wrote:New life goal: build a computer in Dwarf Fortress capable of emulating Minecraft, and then build a computer within that emulation capable of running Dwarf Fortress.


And run it in Wine... running in Cygwin in a Windows VM on your Linux box.
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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Klear » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:26 pm UTC

ekolis wrote:Someday there should be an episode of The Simpsons where Homer gets addicted to a role-playing simulation game called "The Sim-Sims", in which you roleplay as a simulated person who is into playing roleplaying simulation games.


Close enough.

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Showsni wrote:New life goal: build a computer in Dwarf Fortress capable of emulating Minecraft, and then build a computer within that emulation capable of running Dwarf Fortress.


Reminds me of this.

Edit 2:

While I'm at it... this is also a little bit relevant:

http://twistedspeedo.com/?p=646

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby TimXCampbell » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:51 pm UTC

snowyowl wrote:TimXCampbell: Seems like overkill when you could just use Wizard Mode. That's what it's for.

I have never heard of Wizard Mode before. I wonder if it was added after I started playing NetHack in the early 80's.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Nnelg » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:22 am UTC

TimXCampbell wrote:
snowyowl wrote:TimXCampbell: Seems like overkill when you could just use Wizard Mode. That's what it's for.

I have never heard of Wizard Mode before. I wonder if it was added after I started playing NetHack in the early 80's.

There's also "Exploration mode", which can be turned on at any point in any game. When it's on, you get a y/n prompt to die. :P


Markavian wrote:In DF, the player can only suggest what the dwarves do... what they choose to do is their own decision. If we choose to play DF instead of the tasks assigned to us by our overseers, does this mean that they've failed?

No, you're just ON BREAK. :wink:
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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby rivulatus » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:29 am UTC

peewee_RotA wrote:Hipster: "I liked it before it got cool"
Nerdy Hipster: "I liked it before it was featured on XKCD and everyone wiki'd it."

So true, guess I am main stream though, I only just heard about it.
Side note I have just spent the last 10ish hours learning how it.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Eternal Density » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:44 am UTC

cellocgw wrote:Randall got Ninja'd on this one. See the Twitter feed @NSA_PRISM or something close to that. Oh, here it is https://twitter.com/PRISM_NSA

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Kit. » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:30 pm UTC

I don't see where that "...Oh God" comes from.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby itaibn » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:21 pm UTC

Engraved on the wall is masterfuly designed image of a dwarf fortress made by John Smith. In the dwarf fortress there is a dwarf. In the dwarf fortress there wall. Engraved on the wall is a fine image of a piece of cheese. The dwarf is gazing at the wall. The artwork relates to a game of dwarf fortress played by John Smith in the early winter of 2012.
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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby Jackpot777 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:29 pm UTC

I'd like to add: as an extrovert / attention whore, I quite like the idea that someone may be paid through my taxes to read and evaluate my online contributions. At the very least, it means more listens to my Mixcrate mixes and views to my Redbubble t-shirts.

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Re: 1223: "Dwarf Fortress"

Postby adric » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:29 pm UTC

Ive often thought, that we need to educate the spies and feds about the fact SPAM is the Perfect method of sending covert messages to sleeper operatives! (also useful for communication when finding ways to launder money)

Feds really need to get cracking on the spam problem, and meanwhile we need football sized fields of analysts reading every junk mail that goes through the wires! (Enjoy your time in hell boys!)


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