1242: "Scary Names"

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1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Vroomfundel » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:29 am UTC

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Alt text: Far off to the right of the chart is the Helvetica Scenario.


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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby GreenyRepublic » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:32 am UTC

Interest piqued at the mention of the 'Helvetica Scenario'. If that's an intentional Look Around You reference, it'd make me a very happy man.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Lewton » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:54 am UTC

Grey goo refers to something way scarier than flesh eating bacteria... Grey goo does exactly what flesh eating bacteria does, and so much more!


Edit: Ok, I guess technically flesh eating bacteria are scarier than grey goo because of the fact that they actually exist.... But still!

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Klear » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:06 am UTC

For some reason I think there should be grapefruit somewhere. Fuck grapefruit.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby bouer » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:14 am UTC

Mutual Assured Destruction is off both scales, I assume.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby arthurd006_5 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:15 am UTC

I might put "demon core" a shade to the right of "criticality incident", given that it implies a string of criticality incidents.

In case anyone's feeling relaxed about fission power, they could look up what happened to SL-1, and marvel that the damage wasn't worse.

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bouer wrote:Mutual[ly] Assured Destruction is off both scales, I assume.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Kit. » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:20 am UTC

Lewton wrote:Edit: Ok, I guess technically flesh eating bacteria are scarier than grey goo because of the fact that they actually exist.... But still!

Then there's something wrong with the alt text.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Carteeg_Struve » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:22 am UTC

"Fruit cake" isn't listed?

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby ThemePark » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:50 am UTC

Carteeg_Struve wrote:"Fruit cake" isn't listed?


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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby thevicente » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:07 pm UTC

This comic made me google "helvetica scenario"

Until now, I thought it was just something made up in http://www.xkcd.com/683/

It's alright, it's not like I didn't need anything else to be scared of.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby neocow » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:16 pm UTC

That was one of the better Look Around You episodes... :)

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:20 pm UTC

Kessler syndrome, IMO, is scarier than a demon core. Grey goo should also be scariest. Although when you think about it, the Earth already had a grey goo scenario; all living organisms are biological Von Neumann machines.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby pololoco » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:33 pm UTC

The scatter plot isn't working for me. And I'd vote for mustard gas as the scariest thing with the mildest name.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Harry Voyager » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:09 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Kessler syndrome, IMO, is scarier than a demon core. Grey goo should also be scariest. Although when you think about it, the Earth already had a grey goo scenario; all living organisms are biological Von Neumann machines.


The answer to Kessler Syndrome is big lasers, which we import from China.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby yellow103 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:14 pm UTC

Guys, lets go hold these neutron deflectors open with a screwdriver!

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Jorpho » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:22 pm UTC

pololoco wrote:The scatter plot isn't working for me. And I'd vote for mustard gas as the scariest thing with the mildest name.
Indeed, out of context "mustard gas" and "bird flu" sound much more innocuous than this plot would suggest. [Insert fantastically witty play on "bird flew" here.]

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:25 pm UTC

Mustard is deeply disturbing stuff.

Oh, and so is mustard gas.
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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby ctdonath » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:26 pm UTC

Carteeg_Struve wrote:"Fruit cake" isn't listed?

Neither is "yellow cake".

At least there's just one fruit cake (people just keep mailing it to each other).

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Techno Gray » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:42 pm UTC

Okay I give up. What is Helvetica Scenario? I cannot find any reliable sources for a definition. The most I've found out is that Helvetica is a type font and the 'scenario' might involve bees.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby PinkShinyRose » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:47 pm UTC

The demon core might be overrated on the scary scale. It's mostly scary when abused, not by itself (that, and it refers to an unique object, that no longer exists). Mustard gas is scary, although it's somewhat dependent on the amount, though it does indeed sound rather innocent and is actually useful against some cancers. Bird flu is not really that scary of itself, it's mostly the hype surrounding it. Bird flu really is a bird disease and rarely affects humans, and in those cases it's dubious to still call it bird flu (and seriously, it does not sound scary at all, I mean flu is generally associated with the most innocent illnesses, and birds are cute). Superbug mostly sounds like the next great feature on some software... so I would say it doesn't sound scary, but it is kind of scary if you live in a wealthy country (if you can't afford antibiotics anyway it does not really matter whether they would have been effective). It has already been pointed out that grey goo is merely a variation of what is commonly called life. Necrotising fasciitis is scary if you have it yourself but it's not like others easily contract it from you on contact (tuberculosis is scarier, in wealthier countries especially when it's completely drug resistant).

This kind of solves my issue with there not being anything near the lower left corner (it seems to suggest that everything is either scary, sounds scary or both).

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby tibfulv » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:50 pm UTC

I had a look at this Look Around You-video, and I am forced to conclude that it isn't in any way serious.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Jorpho » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:00 pm UTC

I'm sure this is missing something particularly significant but right now all I can think of is Ultraviolet Catastrophe. It's a catastrophe!

Maybe some debilitating congenital disorders? Ondine's Curse? Virchow's Triad?

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Red Hal » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:05 pm UTC

Looks like someone discovered "Look Around You".

To be fair though, even more to the right of the Helvetica Scenario is a Volkswagen with a mind of its own, driving all over the place and going mad.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby russianspy1234 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:12 pm UTC

bird flu really isnt that scary... it was all a bunch of media hype.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby PinkShinyRose » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:31 pm UTC

Jorpho wrote:I'm sure this is missing something particularly significant but right now all I can think of is Ultraviolet Catastrophe. It's a catastrophe!

Maybe some debilitating congenital disorders? Ondine's Curse? Virchow's Triad?


The moon dropping onto earth?

I was not initially thinking of zelda when I thought of it, but it came before I decided to post it...

EDIT: how about what-if 0053?

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby alcore » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:40 pm UTC

I am now going to officially add "Helvetica Syndrome" to my list of phrases to listen for that automatically classify a person as an idiot.

Other phrases include:
"I believe in bigfoot"
"The moon landing was faked"
"Area 51 contains actual captured flying saucers/alien spacecraft"
"The Illuminati are..."
"According to the Book of X, Chapter Y, Verse Z..."
"I don't believe Humans can change the environment"

Strictly speaking, I mean the use of any of these phrases in a context that is supposed to be about or contain "science". There are other contexts for each of these where it might be viable to speak them without being an idiot... such as discussion of idiot spotting.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Klear » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:45 pm UTC

alcore wrote: "The Illuminati are..."


...a myth.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby tibfulv » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:51 pm UTC

Klear wrote:
alcore wrote: "The Illuminati are..."


...a myth.


More accurately, a legend. Actual, prerevolutionary secret society, crushed, then rumored to live on after death.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Quizatzhaderac » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:52 pm UTC

Bird flu is still scarier then it sounds; it sounds like something that only effects birds.

I vote down the scarinessname of Kessler syndrome; it sounds like a mildly debilitating congenital (and hence non-contagious) disease.

I vote up the scarinessname of "Soil liquefacation"; it sounds like the ground itself beneath you turns liquid, with no reliable shore because you're already in soil.

If you don't know it's a font, Helvetica has a solid name/referent scariness ratio. It's got "Hell" right in the name.

I submit "Vacuum metastability event" as having a huge referent/name ratio. So what? just buy a new one.
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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Jorpho » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:55 pm UTC

Quizatzhaderac wrote:I vote up the scarinessname of "Soil liquefacation"; it sounds like the ground itself beneath you turns liquid, with no reliable shore because you're already in soil.
I'm inclined to agree.

PinkShinyRose wrote:The moon dropping onto earth?

I was not initially thinking of zelda when I thought of it, but it came before I decided to post it...

EDIT: how about what-if 0053?
But those aren't scary names (or scary things with simple, ordinary names). I guess "Challenger Deep" is sort of scary.

How about:
Witch of Agnesi
Kampyle of Eudoxus
Trochaic Septenarius

Come to think of it, "Black body radiation" sounds kind of terrifying in itself.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Klear » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:01 pm UTC

tibfulv wrote:
Klear wrote:
alcore wrote: "The Illuminati are..."


...a myth.


More accurately, a legend. Actual, prerevolutionary secret society, crushed, then rumored to live on after death.


Right. I guess I'm an idiot after all =P

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby JudeMorrigan » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:02 pm UTC

Red Hal wrote:Looks like someone discovered "Look Around You".

Not recently though. Note the title text for http://xkcd.com/683/.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby PinkShinyRose » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:05 pm UTC

Jorpho wrote:
PinkShinyRose wrote:The moon dropping onto earth?

I was not initially thinking of zelda when I thought of it, but it came before I decided to post it...

EDIT: how about what-if 0053?
But those aren't scary names (or scary things with simple, ordinary names). I guess "Challenger Deep" is sort of scary.

How about:
Witch of Agnesi
Kampyle of Eudoxus
Trochaic Septenarius


The upper right was not the empty quadrant, the included terms were supposed to be scary and/or be named scary.

Quizatzhaderac wrote:If you don't know it's a font, Helvetica has a solid name/referent scariness ratio. It's got "Hell" right in the name.

I submit "Vacuum metastability event" as having a huge referent/name ratio. So what? just buy a new one.


Oh no, the scary always wanna be neutral country (although I generally find that an admirable property)?

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby The other mac » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:16 pm UTC

Ice-9 would be up there with grey goo. Perhaps ahead even, since it's faster.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Kit. » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:20 pm UTC

alcore wrote:I am now going to officially add "Helvetica Syndrome" to my list of phrases to listen for that automatically classify a person as an idiot.

I am now going to officially mention that I consider people that keep such lists as too lazy to be trusted in their judgements.

alcore wrote:Other phrases include:
"I believe in bigfoot"
"The moon landing was faked"
"Area 51 contains actual captured flying saucers/alien spacecraft"
"The Illuminati are..."
"According to the Book of X, Chapter Y, Verse Z..."
"I don't believe Humans can change the environment"

Strictly speaking, I mean the use of any of these phrases in a context that is supposed to be about or contain "science".

"...which, according to the Volume II, Chapter 7, Equation 35, can be replaced with..."

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby jvenezian » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:34 pm UTC

"Power Excursion" should be up there, although there isn't much room between Grey Goo and Criticality Incident

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Red Hal » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:36 pm UTC

JudeMorrigan wrote:
Red Hal wrote:Looks like someone discovered "Look Around You".

Not recently though. Note the title text for http://xkcd.com/683/.
Ah! That connection didn't light up properly in my brain at the time; thanks for pointing it out.
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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Sprocket » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:36 pm UTC

The Helvetica Scenario sounds like the name of an episode of Big Bang Theory, wherein Sheldon freaks out and threatens to leave the country because Leonard insists on using inferior type face.

tibfulv wrote:Look Around You .... I am forced to conclude that it isn't in any way serious.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Znirk » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:44 pm UTC

Nah, The Helvetica Scenario is a crappy spy novel starring a graphic designer. Other titles in the series include The Frutiger Conundrum, The Impact Event and The Arial Narrow Escape.

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Re: 1242: "Scary Names"

Postby Klear » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:56 pm UTC

Znirk wrote:Nah, The Helvetica Scenario is a crappy spy novel starring a graphic designer. Other titles in the series include The Frutiger Conundrum, The Impact Event and The Arial Narrow Escape.


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