1289: "Simple Answers"

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1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Eebster the Great » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:04 am UTC

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Associated text: "'Will [ ] allow us to better understand each other and thus make war undesirable?' is one that pops up whenever we invent a new communication medium."

The first "yes" is wrong. Not every new technology will destroy whole industries. Consider the Frisbee, for instance.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby rhomboidal » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:06 am UTC

The answer I want to know is if time-travel technology will let us "go back to a time when --"

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Primis » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:12 am UTC

Speaking of which, I doubt many teens started having more sex due to the frisbee
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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:17 am UTC

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Eebster the Great » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:40 am UTC

Primis wrote:Speaking of which, I doubt many teens started having more sex due to the frisbee

To be fair, the question "will teens use . . . " can technically refer to just two teens, and I would be surprised if there weren't a couple somewhere that had sex due to the Frisbee at some point. Or even used a Frisbee for sex somehow.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby AUS » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:10 am UTC

Frisbees aren't technology. *shot*

Strip Frisbee

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:54 am UTC

....I think this is one of those things where the forumites are going to need to test their new ideas.

Well put answers.

However, I must now work towards proving at least one wrong.

Challenge Accepted.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Red Hal » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:53 am UTC

Those "all"s are going to make refutation difficult, but here's my take:

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Meh
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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby JonCz » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:24 am UTC

I think there's one item that got left off the list.

Will X open up a whole new world of possibilities? Yes.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Graham Finch » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:30 am UTC

I'm pretty sure "Will ____ make us all morons?" has the wrong answer.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Red Hal » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:45 am UTC

Got it. The simplest refutation of all; Wheaton.
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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby origimbo » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:12 am UTC

Red Hal wrote:Those "all"s are going to make refutation difficult, but here's my take:

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The end of evolution


Unless humanity totally replaces sex with repeatedly cloning a single individual, I really don't foresee an end to human evolution, just possibly further changes in the local environmental minimum.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Red Hal » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:18 am UTC

A fair point.
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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Quercus » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:26 am UTC

AUS wrote:Frisbees aren't technology. *shot*

You've clearly never thrown an Aerobie Pro, that thing is engineered (although I guess not strictly a frisbee). Also has one of the best opening sentences in a wikipedia article I have ever seen:

Inspired by and directly modeled after the ancient Indian (Sikh/Punjabi) battle weapon, the Chakram, an Aerobie is a flying ring used in a manner similar to a flying disc

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby dalcde » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:40 pm UTC

Graham Finch wrote:I'm pretty sure "Will ____ make us all morons?" has the wrong answer.


We already are?

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Klear » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:49 pm UTC

Red Hal wrote:Empathy Box (see atomic Sheep)


Took me a while to understand this reference =P

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Red Hal wrote:Smart Pills
The end of evolution
Personal aviation
Empathy Box (see atomic Sheep)
Immortality
Star-destroying bombs
Meh
One Direction
One Direction
Time Travel
Star-destroying bombs (but perhaps not the peace sought)
Meh.


We can't be sure we are ever going to develop any of those, but on the other hand, if we don't because we destroy ourselves, then we would have developed a technology that destroys music, art, and technically war.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:12 pm UTC

GLR is playing a dangerous game with Betteridge's Law here.

Possible addition to the list:

Will [___] cause a great increase in the general level of FUD? (Yes)


ETA, just because 1190, fill in all the blanks with "molpies riding raptorcats, armed with punsaws" FTW
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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:24 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:ETA, just because 1190, fill in all the blanks with "molpies riding raptorcats, armed with punsaws" FTW

Image Awesomeful. Except for the bit where teens use punsaw-wielding molpies riding raptorcats for sex. That's certainly...creative.
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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby cantab314 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:57 pm UTC

Eebster the Great wrote:The first "yes" is wrong. Not every new technology will destroy whole industries. Consider the Frisbee, for instance.
Just because it hasn't yet destroyed whole industries doesn't mean it won't. The time shall come when the popularity of Ultimate eclipses that of football, thereby destroying the football-making industry.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby PolakoVoador » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:18 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:
cellocgw wrote:ETA, just because 1190, fill in all the blanks with "molpies riding raptorcats, armed with punsaws" FTW

Image Awesomeful. Except for the bit where teens use punsaw-wielding molpies riding raptorcats for sex. That's certainly...creative.


But not unheard of.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby keithl » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:41 pm UTC

cantab314 wrote:
Eebster the Great wrote:The first "yes" is wrong. Not every new technology will destroy whole industries. Consider the Frisbee, for instance.
Just because it hasn't yet destroyed whole industries doesn't mean it won't. The time shall come when the popularity of Ultimate eclipses that of football, thereby destroying the football-making industry.
Frisbees seriously threaten the "sticks picked up and thrown for dogs to retrieve" industry.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby PinkShinyRose » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:42 pm UTC

Primis wrote:Speaking of which, I doubt many teens started having more sex due to the frisbee

I have a different understanding of what the comic says. I think "Will teens use [ ] for sex?" means that the technology will be used in sexual play. While "Were they going to have sex anyway?" means they would have sex anyway (even if the technology did not exist), meaning the technology didn't increase the amount/frequency of teens having sex (so they wouldn't have more sex, they would just do it in different ways). I also think several couples will have found ways to implement a frisbee in their sexual play and I suppose some of these frisbee users would be teens. But maybe I got the whole thing wrong...

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby keithl » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:45 pm UTC

"xkcd" fits in all those boxes, though I only speculate about teen sex. Any empirical reports from younger readers? Salacious details, please.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Klear » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:19 pm UTC

OK, so I took a deep breath and tried to google a bit. I've found some rather unpleasant furry images, this this, and eventually a video titled "Frisbee Fuckers", though I don't think any frisbees were involved in it. Maybe they were talking about them? I don't speak german...

Pseudo edit: Oh, look! I've found a picture from said movie! And it appears to be SFW... The clip I watched must come later in the movie... Hope I didn't spoil it for someone just now.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby San Fran Sam » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:53 pm UTC

Graham Finch wrote:I'm pretty sure "Will ____ make us all morons?" has the wrong answer.

I don't get it. :wink:

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby speising » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:59 pm UTC

Klear wrote:OK, so I took a deep breath and tried to google a bit. I've found some rather unpleasant furry images, this this, and eventually a video titled "Frisbee Fuckers", though I don't think any frisbees were involved in it. Maybe they were talking about them? I don't speak german...

Pseudo edit: Oh, look! I've found a picture from said movie! And it appears to be SFW... The clip I watched must come later in the movie... Hope I didn't spoil it for someone just now.

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wow, that's some cellulitis for a girl that (supposed) age!

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby PolakoVoador » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:46 pm UTC

keithl wrote:"xkcd" fits in all those boxes, though I only speculate about teen sex. Any empirical reports from younger readers? Salacious details, please.


Does this count?

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby capefeather » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:43 am UTC

Graham Finch wrote:I'm pretty sure "Will ____ make us all morons?" has the wrong answer.


Oh you silly pessimists... humans are morons regardless of any technology.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby rmsgrey » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:13 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:
cellocgw wrote:ETA, just because 1190, fill in all the blanks with "molpies riding raptorcats, armed with punsaws" FTW

Image Awesomeful. Except for the bit where teens use punsaw-wielding molpies riding raptorcats for sex. That's certainly...creative.

...procreative. *dons sunglasses*

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby addams » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:21 am UTC

Primis wrote:Speaking of which, I doubt many teens started having more sex due to the frisbee

You might be wrong.
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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Wrangler » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:02 am UTC

Originally i was putting in "Technology" in the blank areas. :P

Then the inner Nerd in me choose a different path. Insert Wheaton in all the blanks and go with it. :lol:

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Eebster the Great » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:26 am UTC

capefeather wrote:
Graham Finch wrote:I'm pretty sure "Will ____ make us all morons?" has the wrong answer.


Oh you silly pessimists... humans are morons regardless of any technology.

I've always wondered what this statement meant. Like, morons compared to what? We are by far the smartest known species.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby addams » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:43 am UTC

Eebster the Great wrote:
capefeather wrote:
Graham Finch wrote:I'm pretty sure "Will ____ make us all morons?" has the wrong answer.


Oh you silly pessimists... humans are morons regardless of any technology.

I've always wondered what this statement meant. Like, morons compared to what? We are by far the smartest known species.

An optimist thinks we live in the best possible world.
A pessimist fears that is true.

Yes. The human being, Homo Sapiens Sapiens, may be the most intelligent animal on this Orb.

Do you think that is Good News?
Does that idea cause you to fall into despair?

Are you hoping help comes from The Stars?
Did you know 'They' are going to be as bad as we are, Worse?
Did you know, 'They' are going to be as good as we are, Better?

What was your point? We are smart? oh. Really? How smart?
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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby PinkShinyRose » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:38 am UTC

Eebster the Great wrote:
capefeather wrote:
Graham Finch wrote:I'm pretty sure "Will ____ make us all morons?" has the wrong answer.


Oh you silly pessimists... humans are morons regardless of any technology.

I've always wondered what this statement meant. Like, morons compared to what? We are by far the smartest known species.

Elves? Apparently not elf-lords though.
addams wrote:Misanthropic??! Me??
That is not like me. Is it?

Don't be silly, you're saying humans are not more special than others, not that they are lesser than others, or that you hate them.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Klear » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:44 am UTC

Eebster the Great wrote:
capefeather wrote:
Graham Finch wrote:I'm pretty sure "Will ____ make us all morons?" has the wrong answer.


Oh you silly pessimists... humans are morons regardless of any technology.

I've always wondered what this statement meant. Like, morons compared to what? We are by far the smartest known species.


Compared to how smart we think we are?

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Kit. » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:16 pm UTC

Eebster the Great wrote:
capefeather wrote:
Graham Finch wrote:I'm pretty sure "Will ____ make us all morons?" has the wrong answer.


Oh you silly pessimists... humans are morons regardless of any technology.

I've always wondered what this statement meant. Like, morons compared to what?

To the singularity.

However, the singularity as a "new technology" invalidates many Randall's other answers as well.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby speising » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:35 pm UTC

i read the comic as "the singularity is a lie".

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby project2051 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:14 pm UTC

"Will _____ bring about world peace?" could be yes.

Will the Sun's red giant phase bring about world peace? Probably.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby Klear » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:43 pm UTC

project2051 wrote:"Will _____ bring about world peace?" could be yes.

Will the Sun's red giant phase bring about world peace? Probably.


Since when is the Sun's red giant phase a technology? Besides, we might have left the solar system by then. We really should.

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Re: 1289: "Simple Answers"

Postby addams » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:26 pm UTC

Klear wrote:
project2051 wrote:"Will _____ bring about world peace?" could be yes.

Will the Sun's red giant phase bring about world peace? Probably.


Since when is the Sun's red giant phase a technology? Besides, we might have left the solar system by then. We really should.

Some people see the Solar System as mechanical. Clock-Work of the Universe. Our Sun is a part of a much larger system.

They enjoy our sun the way we enjoy the energy transfer from charged particles in a battery.
It is a technology that exceeds our understanding. So; We call it a Natural System.

Really? You think we should leave the solar system? All of us?
What spaceship other than the one we are on, will hold all of us?

What about Uncle Fester's weird friend? Does he have to go?
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

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