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1311: "2014"

Postby rhomboidal » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:31 pm UTC

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Title Text: Some future reader, who may see the term, without knowing the history of it, may imagine that it had reference to some antiquated bridge of the immortal Poet, thrown across the silver Avon, to facilitate his escape after some marauding excursion in a neighbouring park; and in some Gentleman's Magazine of the next century, it is not impossible, but that future antiquaries may occupy page after page in discussing so interesting a matter. We think it right, therefore, to put it on record in the Oriental Herald that the 'Shakesperian Rope Bridges' are of much less classic origin; that Mr Colin Shakespear, who, besides his dignity as Postmaster, now signs himself 'Superintendent General of Shakesperian Rope Bridges', is a person of much less genius than the Bard of Avon. --The Oriental Herald, 1825


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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby rmsgrey » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:21 pm UTC

In a hundred years from today, some of the predictions made this year will seem utterly ridiculous. Others will seem eerily prescient. Nostradamus will still require excessive interpretation to make fit.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Milnoc » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:26 pm UTC

The prediction about the Canadian people definitely came true! Just try and find a country in the world that really and truly hates us! We're one of the few nations whose citizens can safely travel the world with their nation's flag sewn on their backpack! :mrgreen:

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Klear » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:29 pm UTC

Hundred years form now, this post will have been lost, and nobody will be able to read it.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby majorleague007 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:43 pm UTC

Hope Randall happens to see this...

The abortion quote intrigued me, so I did a Google search that led to a Google book version of the "Transactions of the New York and Philadelphia Obstetrics Society" from 1914, which is the transcript of the discussion panel that abortion quotation came from (couldn't post the link, as it was flagged as spam). From pp. 1033-1034, it looks like the speaker was Dr. R. C. Norris, not Dr. Barton C. Hisrt.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Flumble » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:46 pm UTC

A happy new year to you too!

Milnoc wrote:The prediction about the Canadian people definitely came true!

We, north-western Europe, look up to scandinavian countries more than Canada.

Heck, from a media perspective the americas consist of the US, Guantanamo Bay, Rio de Janeiro and Mexico (when there's another drugs-related battle or something) most of the time. :P

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Klear » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:59 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:A happy new year to you too!

Milnoc wrote:The prediction about the Canadian people definitely came true!

We, north-western Europe, look up to scandinavian countries more than Canada.

Heck, from a media perspective the americas consist of the US, Guantanamo Bay, Rio de Janeiro and Mexico (when there's another drugs-related battle or something) most of the time. :P


I tend to think of Canada as an American counterpart to Scandinavia.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Nelg » Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:12 am UTC

I read it through multiple times and I still can't interpret the title text. Could someone please unconvolute it?

Klear wrote:
Flumble wrote:A happy new year to you too!

Milnoc wrote:The prediction about the Canadian people definitely came true!

We, north-western Europe, look up to scandinavian countries more than Canada.

Heck, from a media perspective the americas consist of the US, Guantanamo Bay, Rio de Janeiro and Mexico (when there's another drugs-related battle or something) most of the time. :P


I tend to think of Canada as an American counterpart to Scandinavia.


We Finns are technically not in Scandinavia, but that is legitimately the greatest compliment I could ever hope for.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby doomvox » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:09 am UTC

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby LockeZ » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:56 am UTC

The randomly alternating text colors are pointless and are pissing me off. The gray text is hard to read, especially the smaller gray text.

Next he's gonna start doing this in every comic, coloring every important noun and punchline a bright color, like a fucking Nintendo game. And I'm gonna find out where he lives, drive to his house, and kick him in the nards.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby da Doctah » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:10 am UTC

Milnoc wrote:The prediction about the Canadian people definitely came true! Just try and find a country in the world that really and truly hates us! We're one of the few nations whose citizens can safely travel the world with their nation's flag sewn on their backpack!
Well, the Brits, but that's just because people assume the pack was made by Reebok.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby San Fran Sam » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:00 am UTC

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Lawsome » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:25 am UTC

LockeZ wrote:The randomly alternating text colors are pointless and are pissing me off. The gray text is hard to read, especially the smaller gray text.

Next he's gonna start doing this in every comic, coloring every important noun and punchline a bright color, like a fucking Nintendo game. And I'm gonna find out where he lives, drive to his house, and kick him in the nards.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Nix_Seb » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:26 am UTC

Lawsome wrote:
LockeZ wrote:The randomly alternating text colors are pointless and are pissing me off. The gray text is hard to read, especially the smaller gray text.

Next he's gonna start doing this in every comic, coloring every important noun and punchline a bright color, like a fucking Nintendo game. And I'm gonna find out where he lives, drive to his house, and kick him in the nards.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby OP Tipping » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:49 am UTC

Bit of a mixed bag.

China is, for instance, a huge shoe market. The fact that they are also a major shoe manufacturer and exporter does not diminish that.
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby cellocgw » Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:15 pm UTC

Me, I'm just glad the servers came back on line. Which one of you messed up the tag-pairing so bad it crashed the site? :D

Thread assignment: Since this is a "predictions" discussion, everyone pick one (just one) USA stock that you think will outperform the market in 2014. We can all check back in a year to see who is a precog and who isn't.


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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Erasmus Darwin » Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:51 pm UTC

Nelg wrote:I read it through multiple times and I still can't interpret the title text. Could someone please unconvolute it?


The really short version: "Shakesperian Rope Bridges" have nothing to do with William Shakespeare, so the Oriental Herald is going on record stating that fact to avoid confusion down the road.

Basically, every reference to poet, Avon, or bard are references to the famous Shakespeare. There's also a lot of clauses in the sentences that really breaks up the flow of the writing and makes it hard to decipher out of context.

A more direct translation: Future readers may see the term "Shakesperian Rope Bridges" and imagine it's a reference to an old bridge used by William Shakespeare himself. It's not impossible that those studying history in the further future may spend a bunch of time discussing such a matter. Therefore, the Oriental Herald is going on the record stating that "Shakesperian Rope Bridges" come from Mr. Colin Shakespear, a Postmaster and now self-proclaimed Superintendent General of Shakesperian Rope Bridges. He is no William Shakespeare.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Coyoty » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:16 pm UTC

LockeZ wrote:The randomly alternating text colors are pointless and are pissing me off. The gray text is hard to read, especially the smaller gray text.

Next he's gonna start doing this in every comic, coloring every important noun and punchline a bright color, like a fucking Nintendo game. And I'm gonna find out where he lives, drive to his house, and kick him in the nards.


What randomly alternating text colors? The predictions are emphasized in black, against the haziness of the quotes.
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:18 pm UTC

LockeZ wrote:The randomly alternating text colors are pointless and are pissing me off. The gray text is hard to read, especially the smaller gray text.

Next he's gonna start doing this in every comic, coloring every important noun and punchline a bright color, like a fucking Nintendo game. And I'm gonna find out where he lives, drive to his house, and kick him in the nards.


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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby eran_rathan » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:28 pm UTC

When I travel out of the US I tell people I'm Canadian (I live close enough and follow enough of the politics I can fake it). :(
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Jackpot777 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:33 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:Me, I'm just glad the servers came back on line. Which one of you messed up the tag-pairing so bad it crashed the site? :D

Thread assignment: Since this is a "predictions" discussion, everyone pick one (just one) USA stock that you think will outperform the market in 2014. We can all check back in a year to see who is a precog and who isn't.


I'll go with Asustek for no reason at all other than I like my MemoPad.


Seeing as solar power is booming as an industry, I'm going to go with Meyer Burger Technologies out of Switzerland.

Here's their Google Finance graph. Their share price is $11.93 at the start of the year.

Why them? Their share price was higher so it has that potential, you're buying low in the hope of selling high... oh, and this.

Roth & Rau B.V. in Eindhoven, a member of the Meyer Burger Group, has successfully completed a contract to supply inkjet printers for printing mono crystalline high performance solar cells. With the PiXDRO ink jet printing technology from Roth & Rau, Meyer Burger is the only company worldwide offering a printing process suitable for the mass production of high efficiency solar cells in combination with electroplating.


The last time they had a low share price and they won contracts in Asia, their share price shot up. We'll see if I was right when December 31st comes around...

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby orthogon » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:53 pm UTC

"Student of the 21st century" keeps tripping me up. Surely a student of x is somebody who studies x? I would contend that for a noun derived from a transitive verb, the slot after "of" is reserved for the direct object of the verb, and this trumps any other relationship expressed with "of".
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Spambot5546 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:23 pm UTC

"Petting party"? Is that as dirty as it sounds?
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby harperska » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:08 pm UTC

eran_rathan wrote:When I travel out of the US I tell people I'm Canadian (I live close enough and follow enough of the politics I can fake it). :(


I also have it on good authority that if you are from the US and travelling abroad, if you conduct yourself in such a way as to come across as generally well-mannered and knowledgeable, people will tend to assume you are from Canada anyway.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Moose Anus » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:32 pm UTC

Spambot5546 wrote:"Petting party"? Is that as dirty as it sounds?

Yes. Most colleges of that time taught agricultural science since most of the jobs were agricultural. They ended up having a lot of, what we would call "petting zoos," spontaneously whenever there was enough variety of livestock and people around to appreciate it. These petting parties didn't have the sanitation concerns we now have at modern petting zoos so they ended up all touching filthy animals and it was really dirty.
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby wlievens » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:25 pm UTC

majorleague007 wrote:Hope Randall happens to see this...

The abortion quote intrigued me, so I did a Google search that led to a Google book version of the "Transactions of the New York and Philadelphia Obstetrics Society" from 1914, which is the transcript of the discussion panel that abortion quotation came from (couldn't post the link, as it was flagged as spam). From pp. 1033-1034, it looks like the speaker was Dr. R. C. Norris, not Dr. Barton C. Hisrt.


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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby pitareio » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:37 pm UTC

It's indeed funny : journalists are writing on the centenary of the Great War, even though there has been a greater war.

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Postby thesingingaccountant » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:50 pm UTC

Moose Anus wrote:
Spambot5546 wrote:"Petting party"? Is that as dirty as it sounds?

Yes. Most colleges of that time taught agricultural science since most of the jobs were agricultural. They ended up having a lot of, what we would call "petting zoos," spontaneously whenever there was enough variety of livestock and people around to appreciate it. These petting parties didn't have the sanitation concerns we now have at modern petting zoos so they ended up all touching filthy animals and it was really dirty.


I, for one, saw "petting party" and envisioned something like a soft-core orgy with everyone in tweeds.
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby ThemePark » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:07 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:We, north-western Europe, look up to scandinavian countries more than Canada.


Why, thank you from a Dane! :D

Klear wrote:I tend to think of Canada as an American counterpart to Scandinavia.


I would agree with that assessment.

Back when a shitstorm hit the world because of our Mohammad cartoons, Danes would travel the world pretending to be Canadians to avoid getting lynched by angry mobs everywhere.

Nelg wrote:We Finns are technically not in Scandinavia, but that is legitimately the greatest compliment I could ever hope for.


Ah heck, in this context you are as cool as us. :D

Also, I agree on the compliment. :D
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Klear » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:10 pm UTC

pitareio wrote:It's indeed funny : journalists are writing on the centenary of the Great War, even though there has been a greater war.


I believe that with the political situation what it was in the thirties, a lot of people were expecting another war to break out. The Great War has been called "First World War" for the first time as early as 1914.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby rmsgrey » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:19 pm UTC

thesingingaccountant wrote:
Moose Anus wrote:
Spambot5546 wrote:"Petting party"? Is that as dirty as it sounds?

Yes. Most colleges of that time taught agricultural science since most of the jobs were agricultural. They ended up having a lot of, what we would call "petting zoos," spontaneously whenever there was enough variety of livestock and people around to appreciate it. These petting parties didn't have the sanitation concerns we now have at modern petting zoos so they ended up all touching filthy animals and it was really dirty.


I, for one, saw "petting party" and envisioned something like a soft-core orgy with everyone in tweeds.


Wikipedia agrees that Moose Anus is talking out of his eponymous orifice...

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Flumble » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:51 am UTC

ThemePark wrote:
Flumble wrote:We, north-western Europe, look up to scandinavian countries more than Canada.

Why, thank you from a Dane! :D

Appreciation noted. I'm also considering doing my CS Master in Denmark**, Norway* or Sweden. ;)
BTW, my source for the initial (and purposefully generalised) statement is http://www.economist.com/...


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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Klear » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:00 pm UTC

Nelg wrote:We Finns are technically not in Scandinavia, but that is legitimately the greatest compliment I could ever hope for.


Is this somewhat accurate? If so, I don't want to know.

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Postby sylvar » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:34 pm UTC

Randall, if you were trolling librarians by incorrectly citing one of our patron saints: well played. Well played indeed.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Soup » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:19 pm UTC

rmsgrey wrote:Wikipedia agrees that Moose Anus is talking out of his eponymous orifice...

Well played :lol:
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby orthogon » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:22 pm UTC

Soup wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:Wikipedia agrees that Moose Anus is talking out of his eponymous orifice...

Well played :lol:

Quite so. I hereby add "He's talking out of his moose" to the list of phrases I want to use more in 2014, alongside "you won't be going to space today".

What I'm still not clear about is whether "petting party" was a disparaging term used by those who disapproved (or, perhaps, simply weren't invited), or whether the attendees themselves used the term and included it in the invitation.
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby ThemePark » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:23 pm UTC

Klear wrote:
Nelg wrote:We Finns are technically not in Scandinavia, but that is legitimately the greatest compliment I could ever hope for.


Is this somewhat accurate? If so, I don't want to know.

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The three rightmost circles are certainly correct.
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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby EugeneStyles » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:55 pm UTC

ThemePark wrote:
Klear wrote:
Nelg wrote:We Finns are technically not in Scandinavia, but that is legitimately the greatest compliment I could ever hope for.


Is this somewhat accurate? If so, I don't want to know.

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The three rightmost circles are certainly correct.


According to wikipedia, the term Nordic Countries includes Greenland ("unambiguously", they say). That doesn't mean it's necessarily correct, but wikipedia is not nearly as inaccurate as it is fashionable to suggest.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby EpicanicusStrikes » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:39 pm UTC

I have to step away from my repetitive snark and thank the Canadians for their driving habits. Really superb. I was there long enough to note the posted signs stating how many thousands of dollars a high-speed ticket could cost, but that seemed to be a bluff.

The 502 is absolutely wonderful to drive on, and while I thought I was speeding at a reasonable pace over the posted limit, but I was very nearly ran over several times. I eventually went 'native' and stopped acting as a four-wheeled speed bump. I have never had a more enjoyable driving experience in my life.

Perhaps the best part of Canadian driving is how they merge into traffic. We Americans enter the flow at, say, 10 or 15 mph UNDER what the rest of the vehicles are doing, continue that pace for a good quarter mile, and then accelerate once anyone tries to pass us.

Canada? From what I saw, they merge into traffic AT THE SPEED THAT TRAFFIC IS ALREADY FLOWING. Thank you. I wish we could pick up on that habit, and that's only one of many that I experienced in my brief driving tour.

You might want to lay off of the Ford Raptors, however. Yes they look great, but the extra width and weight does not make up for the surprisingly small amount of extra torque coming out of that drive train. They only pick up a half second on the 0-60 time over the FX4, and even that meager advantage is lost due to slightly inferior cornering. So unless you're actually participating in Baha events, the FX4 or even 4X4 XLT is the more practical choice. Plus both of those are a good eight inches more narrow and able to navigate cities a little better.

Just my opinion, though.

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Re: 1311: "2014"

Postby Kit. » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:00 pm UTC

EpicanicusStrikes wrote:The 502 is absolutely wonderful to drive on, and while I thought I was speeding at a reasonable pace over the posted limit, but I was very nearly ran over several times. I eventually went 'native' and stopped acting as a four-wheeled speed bump. I have never had a more enjoyable driving experience in my life.

Perhaps the best part of Canadian driving is how they merge into traffic. We Americans enter the flow at, say, 10 or 15 mph UNDER what the rest of the vehicles are doing, continue that pace for a good quarter mile, and then accelerate once anyone tries to pass us.

I like how these two paragraphs are related.
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