1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

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1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby TortoiseWrath » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:02 am UTC

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TT: "(six hours later) ARGH. How are these stupid microchips so durable?! All I want is to undo a massive industrial process with household tools!"

Knowing that I knew that all computers are "just carefully-organized sand" makes how weird thinking about that is weird in its weirdness.

Edit: oh god these word filters

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:10 am UTC

Might they be turning this sand into castles?

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby keithl » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:26 am UTC

Mad-ness resistant phrasing:

1000 degree furnaces process chips. Rocklike silicon's tough. Blowtorches, sledgehammers? Ineffective. I recommend a grinder.

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby da Doctah » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:29 am UTC

Remember when people would put down paper documents by saying "it's not like it's written in stone or anything". Writing something in stone was thought to be the epitome of permanence and import, like those great inscriptions of antiquity. Writing it on paper implied ephemerality and insignificance.

Then along came the digital age. Soon some things never were getting committed to hardcopy. Never mind written in stone, these things had no real physical existence whatsoever, just a will-o-the-wisp inside some computer's innards.

But then it hit me. Those incredibly transient things existed in silicon. Which, give or take a little manipulation, is stone. Suddenly the paper is the permanent record and the stone is the dixie dust.

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:26 am UTC

da Doctah wrote:Remember when people dem would put down paper documents by a say "it no like it written in stone or anyting". Writing someting in stone was tought a be de epitome ah permanence an' import, like dem great inscriptions ah antiquity. Writing it pon paper implied ephemerality an' insignificance.

den along came de digital age. Soon some ting dem never were a get committed to hardcopy. Never mind written in stone, dese ting dem had no real physical existence whatsoever, just a will-o-the-wisp inside some computer's innards.

But den it hit me. dem incredibly transient ting dem existed in silicon. Which, give or tek a little manipulation, be stone. Suddenly de paper be de permanent record an' de stone be de dixie dust.


Paper is plant fiber, which is primarily carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen arranged in peculiar ways. Coal, oil, and a number of minerals contain these elements in different peculiar ways. So depending on your definition of "stone", paper could be considered a form of stone as well. Make sure to engrave your information in the right type of stone.
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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby Wooloomooloo » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:30 am UTC

Dude's got a point though. It shouldn't be hard - not by now. We have had computers for decades now and I find it quite unacceptable there still isn't a simple, widely accessible way to make them do whatever we want that literally anyone can use. It's just sad...

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:32 am UTC

Wooloomooloo wrote:Dude's got a point dough. It shouldn't be hard - no by now. We have had computer dem for decades now an' I find it quite unacceptable deh still no a simple, widely accessible way to mek dem do whatever we wan dat literally anyone kyan use. it just sad...


Reminds me of a talk I watched today about how programming has stagnated since the late 70s. Really makes you wonder what we could be doing right now if people had kept on coming up with new, interesting ways to do stuff with computers.
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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:02 am UTC

When an uncleft or a bulkbit wins one or more bernstonebits above its own, it takes on a backward lading. When it loses one or more, it takes on a forward lading. Such a mote is called a *farer*, for that the drag between unlike ladings flits it. When bernstonebits flit by themselves, it may be as a bolt of lightning, a spark off some faststanding chunk, or the everyday flow of bernstoneness through wires.
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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby hujackus » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:42 am UTC

Now we need to get a codec to convert all videos & jpegs into sand drawings.

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby Wee Red Bird » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:01 am UTC

The question running through my head is:

"Will it blend?"

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby Quicksilver » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:19 am UTC

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:21 pm UTC

So, then, what's the xkcd forum equivalent of "Fuck Beta" for mod madness?
(With apologies to Hyman Kaplan)

Oh, screw it. The GenPop doesn't know the difference between lose and loose, or compose and comprise, so might as well drop all posts to the lowest possible education level. GrrrrHateMondaysAnyway

Sometimes we create new wordfilters for folks who try to avoid wordfilters, but you I'll just edit directly.
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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby RogueCynic » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:30 pm UTC

Odd. I 've been looking for a way to run a bunch of games on my computer without a disk in the drive. "Shouldn't be hard.", just modify the .ini file to look for the disks on the drive. It doesn't work so I have to virtualize the disks. Is Randall watching me for ideas? Stop it.
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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:54 pm UTC

RogueCynic wrote:Odd. I 've been a look for a way to run a bunch ah game dem pon me computer widdout a disk in de drive. "Shouldn't be hard.", just modify de .ini file a look for de disks pon de drive. It nuh wuk so I have to virtualize de disks. be Randall watching me for ideas? Stop it.


Duuuude, there's lots of freeware tools to create virtual disk drives (with disks in them). I've got a couple (Empire Pinball as it happens) games set up that way.
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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby Primis » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:09 pm UTC

Silicon atoms create very simple crystals. Industrially processed silicon for CPU usage comes in incredibly pure boules. Besides actual semiconductor dies, laptop components easily reduce to grit, simply blend until desired texture.
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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby Pyker » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:37 pm UTC

I feel like #505 is relevant to the "All computers are just carefully organized sand" part.

Edit: Off-topic: Are these word filters new?

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby rmsgrey » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:05 pm UTC

Pyker wrote:I feel like #505 be relevant to de "All computer dem be just carefully organized sand" part.

Edit: Off-topic: be dese word sieve dem new?


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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby gmalivuk » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:09 am UTC

cellocgw wrote:Oh, screw it. de GenPop nuh know de difference between lose an' loose, or compose an' comprise, so might as well drop all post dem to de lowest possible education level. GrrrrHateMondaysAnyway
There's nothing uneducated about the way filters are affecting the forums right now. They're just turning posts into a dialect/patois that happens not to be your own. That's no reason to be racist, ageist, and classist about it.
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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby Klear » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:30 am UTC

gmalivuk wrote: dat's no reason a be racist, ageist, an' classist about it.


For some reason, "classist" sounds desirable to me...

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby MTGradwell » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:17 am UTC

That's why I got into computers in the first place. They were supposed to make everything easy. After programming, they'd do all the work for us, and we'd just sit back and let them.
And it really was easy. Programming was
10 PRINT "MARTIN IS GREAT"
20 GOTO 10
or on the big boxes it was
ADD GAS TO TANK GIVING PROPULSION.
Both of which, once you got used to the shouting, were pretty much just English.
But then someone noticed that these English words could be looked up in something like a dictionary, allowing people to find out what the computers were actually doing, and obviously that couldn't be allowed. So programs had to become $*&^()!@#~ strings of random symbols instead. Which at first seemed great. All I had to do was self-censor a string of bad words, and every time I did so I'd create a valid program. But then we needed a reason to come up with those bad words in the first place - hence the meteoric rise of Micro-*%£$(())@~ -soft.

Or maybe it really is because silicon is hard. It was easier in the earliest days because the very first transistors used germanium, which is softer. But then the next breakthrough is likely to be carbon crystal substrates AKA diamond, and after that it won't be possible to get any harder. But at least we won't have to worry about that for a few years, because (extrapolating current trends) that's how long it'll take for those next-generation computers to boot up.

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby SuperSteve » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:36 am UTC

He wouldn't be able to use a blowtorch against a laptop computer continuously for six hours. Even if the silicon microchips withstood it, the plastic case would turn into toxic smoke.

:!: WARNING: Do not use blowtorches to destroy laptop computers. Serious injury or death may result.

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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby Jamaican Castle » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:17 am UTC

When you combine the first and second panels, you arrive at the conclusion that someone should have made it easier already. Given some of the incredibly complex things made very, very easy in the history of computers, I can't argue with this logic.


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Re: 1349: "Shouldn't Be Hard"

Postby PinkShinyRose » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:53 pm UTC

SuperSteve wrote:He wouldn't be able a use a blowtorch against a laptop computer continuously for six hours. Even if de silicon microchips withstood it, de plastic case would turn into toxic smoke.

:!: WARNING: Do no use blowtorches to destroy laptop computer dem. Serious injury or death may result.

Or perhaps do it in a fume hood?


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