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1383: Magic Words

Postby screen317 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:04 am UTC

http://xkcd.com/1383/
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Mouse-over Text: 'And then whisper 'anapest' in my ear as you hold me?'

Afraid this one went over my head a bit.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby da Doctah » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:06 am UTC

The metric system has no place in erotica.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:08 am UTC

I don't get it, but if the punchline had been "Linguist BDSM" and she had been requesting "moist sebum smegma panties" I'd get it (those are considered to be among the least sexy words in English).

Someone want to explain this one?
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby ck.asdf » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:09 am UTC

Why do I gravitate toward "Correct Horse Battery Staple" when I read this?

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby HES » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:12 am UTC

ck.asdf wrote:Why do I gravitate toward "Correct Horse Battery Staple" when I read this?

They would make good passwords
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby iamagloworm » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:16 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:I don't get it, but if the punchline had been "Linguist BDSM" and she had been requesting "moist sebum smegma panties" I'd get it (those are considered to be among the least sexy words in English).

Someone want to explain this one?


Her fetish is a particular meter of poetry, stressing patterns of long and short syllables...

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby NecklaceOfShadow » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:22 am UTC

Chant wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_(prosody)

In particular --- if I'm sounding this out correctly --- "story water paper doorway" is a phrase of trochees; that is, each word is a stressed syllable followed by an unstressed syllable. "disarm adele's giraffe grenade" is a phrase of iambs, which are unstressed syllables followed stressed syllables. "strawberry scorpion poetry" are dactyls, one stressed and two unstressed. I think "anapest" is an anapest (duh?).
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby rhomboidal » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:42 am UTC

I assume they're using the rhythm method.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby Istaro » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:55 am UTC

rhomboidal wrote:I assume they're using the rhythm method.


Well done indeed.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby RAGBRAIvet » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:54 am UTC

It's because of comics like this one that I have this website bookmarked.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby sotanaht » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:12 am UTC

HES wrote:
ck.asdf wrote:Why do I gravitate toward "Correct Horse Battery Staple" when I read this?

They would make good passwords


They would have made good passwords, prior to appearing in such a public form. Now they are only slightly better than "password" as passwords.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby peregrine_crow » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:36 am UTC

sotanaht wrote:
HES wrote:
ck.asdf wrote:Why do I gravitate toward "Correct Horse Battery Staple" when I read this?

They would make good passwords


They would have made good passwords, prior to appearing in such a public form. Now they are only slightly better than "password" as passwords.


I'm not at all clear on how dictionaries for brute force password guessers are generated, but do they typically include random sets of words that appeared in a webcomic one time?

It's not even a comic that is directly related to passwords either. Obviously stuff like Swordfish, Melon and Correct Horse Battery Staple are likely to be used as password by some people, but if you're going to include potential passwords like this you'd have to include a lot of other stuff to.

It might still be good on general principal to have a completely randomly generated password, but "only slightly better than "password" as passwords" is a stretch.
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby Envelope Generator » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:08 am UTC

The chainsawed body of 30-year-old cartoonist Randall Munroe was found on the internet Wednesday morning. Local police say they cannot rule out word play.
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby AdrianChallinor » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:15 am UTC

"Foot Fetish"


This is one of Randall's funniest for a long time. ("Helpdesk, sorry, I seem to spluttered coffee all over my screen.")

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby orthogon » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:37 am UTC

AdrianChallinor wrote:"Foot Fetish"


This is one of Randall's funniest for a long time. ("Helpdesk, sorry, I seem to spluttered coffee all over my screen.")

Yeah, and another great opportunity not to talk about AGW. However, shouldn't that be "I accidently coffee all over my screen"? (Warning: knowyourmeme link, almost as bad as tvtropes...)
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby Xenomortis » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:32 am UTC

peregrine_crow wrote:I'm not at all clear on how dictionaries for brute force password guessers are generated, but do they typically include random sets of words that appeared in a webcomic one time?

Sure, why not?
Probably more likely than many other random words, if only marginally so.
(These dictionaries are often really big, will often contain many previously cracked passwords, and may be considered "trade secrets" by some).

Although to be honest, "Story Water Paper Doorway" was probably not such a good password to begin with.
"Disarm Adele's Giraffe Grenade" might be better, if only for the apostrophe.
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby eviloatmeal » Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:27 am UTC

Xenomortis wrote:
peregrine_crow wrote:I'm not at all clear on how dictionaries for brute force password guessers are generated, but do they typically include random sets of words that appeared in a webcomic one time?

Sure, why not?
Probably more likely than many other random words, if only marginally so.
(These dictionaries are often really big, will often contain many previously cracked passwords, and may be considered "trade secrets" by some).

Although to be honest, "Story Water Paper Doorway" was probably not such a good password to begin with.
"Disarm Adele's Giraffe Grenade" might be better, if only for the apostrophe.

Last week's What If actually mentions a tool which would be excellent for this: IMDb's MoKA.

For instance, there's only one film described as circus/flight/ladder/chase. That might be a good password and clue combination.

Or perhaps sea/job/underwear/toy is more to your liking.
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby cellocgw » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:04 pm UTC

RAGBRAIvet wrote:It's because of comics like this one that I have this website bookmarked.


Dunno, given all the poetry contests over at the 1190 thread, anyone who's ventured into OTTer land should have picked up on the idea :D .

Plus now we all get that previous comment about "going metric" (foot -- meter ha ha ha got it? hope it's not catching)
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby speising » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:06 pm UTC

right, how can a foot be a metrical unit?

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby cellocgw » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:07 pm UTC

Envelope Generator wrote:The punsawed body of 30-year-old cartoonist Randall Munroe was found on the internet Wednesday morning. Local police say they cannot rule out word play.


FTFY :mrgreen:
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby TomPace101 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:38 pm UTC

I may not be a poet, but I can play this game.
Dactylic Tetrameter---

Melody, Harmony, Globalize, Mobilize
Frankenstein, Dracula, Equity, Ostracize
Paladin Warrior, Conqueror, Equalize
Obstacle, Swimming Pool, Hat trick and Socialize
Picture Book, Window Sill, Pasteurize, Faulty time
Oh and one other thing: Female Hypergamy

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Then and whenever we shadow box party time

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby orthogon » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:54 pm UTC

TomPace101 wrote:I may not be a poet, but I can play this game.
Dactylic Tetrameter---

Melody, Harmony, Globalize, Mobilize
Frankenstein, Dracula, Equity, Ostracize
Paladin Warrior, Conqueror, Equalize
Obstacle, Swimming Pool, Hat trick and Socialize
Picture Book, Window Sill, Pasteurize, Faulty time
Oh and one other thing: Female Hypergamy

Now and forever we socialize Frankenstein
Then and whenever we shadow box party time

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby FrobozzWizard » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:14 pm UTC

This is definitely one of the "nerd test" comics - if you get it before seeing the alt-text, you are officially a poetry nerd. As I was, because I got it immediately.

Of course, our fetishist could get along with a vanilla type just fine, if that vanilla type had "a honky-tonk badonkadonk" (ooh, yes, more of that iambic tetrameter!)

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby cct » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:49 pm UTC

I would pronounce "anapest" as a dactyl, but "amphibrach" as an anapest.

I understand what she wants to do during the dactylic segment, but I can't figure out what activities might count as iambic - and I think an amphibrachic denouement might be more appropriate.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby musicgeek » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:32 pm UTC

I'm embarrassed at how long it took me before the definition of "foot" clicked.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby RAGBRAIvet » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:03 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:
RAGBRAIvet wrote:It's because of comics like this one that I have this website bookmarked.


Dunno, given all the poetry contests over at the 1190 thread, anyone who's ventured into OTTer land should have picked up on the idea :D .

Plus now we all get that previous comment about "going metric" (foot -- meter ha ha ha got it? hope it's not catching)

I have *not* ventured into OTTer land; I can recognize a black hole when I see one.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby orthogon » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:05 pm UTC

speising wrote:right, how can a foot be a metrical unit?

Actually, a metric foot is a thing, (but a different thing to a metrical foot).
xtifr wrote:... and orthogon merely sounds undecided.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby Moose Anus » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:19 pm UTC

eviloatmeal wrote:For instance, there's only one film described as circus/flight/ladder/chase.
I was very surprised that the film was not Dumbo.
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby wisnij » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:23 pm UTC

How cunning.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby Alphonse » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:39 pm UTC

"Oh, and whisper "queueing" as I'm about to cum."

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:05 pm UTC

Hurray, a poetry comic!

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RAGBRAIvet wrote:It's because of comics like this one that I have this website bookmarked.


Dunno, given all the poetry contests over at the 1190 thread, anyone who's ventured into OTTer land should have picked up on the idea :D .

Plus now we all get that previous comment about "going metric" (foot -- meter ha ha ha got it? hope it's not catching)
I have *not* ventured into OTTer land; I can recognize a black hole when I see one.

Wow, you can see black holes? Impressive. :wink:

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As a sort of cosmic retribution, the punsaw was just stolen from me. That's what happens when it's used on unsuspecting webcomic authors.
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby Ardee » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:12 pm UTC

She's only with him because of his polydactyly.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby Ashtar » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:38 pm UTC

Please don’t seriously say "story water paper doorway"... It’s an early symptom of trochee fixation!

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby da Doctah » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:58 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:Plus now we all get that previous comment about "going metric" (foot -- meter ha ha ha got it? hope it's not catching)


Apparently there aren't a lot of other people here who used to write songs.

Personal Observation: OCD and a strong sense of prosody are not good playmates. Years ago I decided to read Spenser's The Faerie Queene on my own. After a couple of days, I found myself having a great deal of trouble saying anything that wasn't in iambic pentameter.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby heatsink » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:51 pm UTC

"Yes! Yes!" falls naturally into spondaic dimeter.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby eviloatmeal » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:58 am UTC

Moose Anus wrote:
eviloatmeal wrote:For instance, there's only one film described as circus/flight/ladder/chase.
I was very surprised that the film was not Dumbo.

That would be camel/fire/spanking/bath.
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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby PM 2Ring » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:18 am UTC

TomPace101 wrote:Melody, Harmony, Globalize, Mobilize
Frankenstein, Dracula, Equity, Ostracize
Paladin Warrior, Conqueror, Equalize
Obstacle, Swimming Pool, Hat trick and Socialize
[...]

We didn't start the fire.

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Re: 1383: Magic Words

Postby mathmannix » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:56 pm UTC

eviloatmeal wrote:
Moose Anus wrote:
eviloatmeal wrote:For instance, there's only one film described as circus/flight/ladder/chase.
I was very surprised that the film was not Dumbo.

That would be camel/fire/spanking/bath.


Or flying/elephant/mouse/circus, if you don't want something that sounds dirty... but maybe that's too obvious.

How about drunkenness/train/prejudice/whip.

Of course there's always getting-drunk-by-accident/mother-son-relationship/whispering-in-sleeping-person's-ear/racial-stereotype...
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