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1394: Superm*n

Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:07 am UTC

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Mouseover caption: See also: Spider-Man reboot in which he can produce several inches of web, doesn't need as much chalk powder on his hands when he goes rock climbing, and occasionally feels vaguely uneasy about situations.



Still better than Man of Steel. :badumtiss:

OK, show of hands if you read the title and immediately thought of Homestar Runner saying "Superm'n".
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby ps.02 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:29 am UTC

That glob could mean so many things. Supermelon, Supermoron, Supermoroccan, Supermidichlorian....

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby phlip » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:39 am UTC

Steve the Pocket wrote:OK, show of hands if you read the title and immediately thought of Homestar Runner saying "Superm'n".

*handraise*

And yeah, is the "supermoon" thing doing the rounds again already? It seems like it was only just last year that this annual event was... uhh... wait, nevermind.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby gormster » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:44 am UTC

Matches:

Supern
Supermn
Supermmn
Supermmmmmmmmn

Does not match:

Superman
Supermoon
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby ps.02 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:48 am UTC

gormster wrote:Matches:

Supern
Supermn
Supermmn

Yeah, that's why I call it a glob and not a regular expression. I assumed it was intended to match the two words in the comic.

Though a third possibility exists, that the * is a placeholder to avoid printing unprintable words. Usually I guess they use underscores, though.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby Antior » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:11 am UTC

phlip wrote:
Steve the Pocket wrote:OK, show of hands if you read the title and immediately thought of Homestar Runner saying "Superm'n".

*handraise*

And yeah, is the "supermoon" thing doing the rounds again already? It seems like it was only just last year that this annual event was... uhh... wait, nevermind.


Apparently, it's been in the news lately because the two periods involved (the moon becoming full/new; and the moon approaching and retreating from the earth) aren't the same, which means that a 'supermoon' doesn't just happen every year. There's a bunch of years when there's none, while this year there's 3 in the summer alone.

That's probably why astrologists care about it. If an event in the sky is too complex for them to calculate, they think it's magic.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:17 am UTC

Since most (all?) things we see in the sky are results of quantum interactions and my best guess tells me that the venn diagram of "astrologists" and "quantum mechanical experts) would show little to no overlap, that would mean that they thing that everything in the sky is magic.
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby phlip » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:25 am UTC

Antior wrote:Apparently, it's been in the news lately because the two periods involved (the moon becoming full/new; and the moon approaching and retreating from the earth) aren't the same, which means that a 'supermoon' doesn't just happen every year. There's a bunch of years when there's none, while this year there's 3 in the summer alone.

Ah, I was under the impression that it was just "the full moon that happens the closest to perigee"... which would then happen (slightly less than) once per year (the beat frequency between perigees and full moons, which Wikipedia tells me is about 411.8 days). I didn't realise there was an extra criterion of being "close enough", though I guess that makes some sort of sense. Inasmuch as any of it makes sense.
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby eviloatmeal » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:51 am UTC

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby keithl » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:03 am UTC

The moon is also slightly retroreflective - a bit more reflection when close to syzygy with earth and sun (will it be, any time soon?).

I never pass up the opportunity to use syzygy in a sentence. I'm even thinking about buying and extra "Y" tile for my Scrabble game, so I can place the Z of syzygy on a double letter score and the final Y of syzygy on a triple word score.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby chridd » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:09 am UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:Since most (all?) things we see in the sky are results of quantum interactions and my best guess tells me that the venn diagram of "astrologists" and "quantum mechanical experts) would show little to no overlap, that would mean that they thing that everything in the sky is magic.
Just because it's quantum mechanics at the lowest level doesn't mean that you need quantum mechanics in order to calculate most things that will happen at a level meaningful to humans. My understanding is that people had fairly accurate calculations of the movement of planets before quantum mechanics came along. (Does astronomy even use quantum mechanics that much?)
And are astrologers actually bad at calculating things like when a supermoon will happen? Do they tend to reject modern astronomy? I thought it was just events here on Earth that astrology makes incorrect predictions about.
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby eviloatmeal » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:33 am UTC

keithl wrote:I'm even thinking about buying and extra "Y" tile for my Scrabble game, so I can place the Z of syzygy on a double letter score and the final Y of syzygy on a triple word score.

Heck, play SYZYGIES onto two triple words and you're all set. I believe that's 284 points if you bingo.
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby orthogon » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:38 am UTC

eviloatmeal wrote:I don't think SOMETHINGY is a word, just use your imagination to figure out how you might end up over there in a real game.


Somethingy (adj): having a certain je ne sais quoi
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby Diadem » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:49 am UTC

orthogon wrote:
eviloatmeal wrote:I don't think SOMETHINGY is a word, just use your imagination to figure out how you might end up over there in a real game.


Somethingy (adj): having a certain je ne sais quoi

Perfect!
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby CapCouillon » Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:16 am UTC

This one just inspired me to submit a "What If" question...

What would the earths maps look like if the moon was in a geostationary orbit?
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby da Doctah » Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:25 am UTC

How come we never hear about submoons?

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby Xenomortis » Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:28 am UTC

For the same reason we don't hear much about Inferiorman?
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby peregrine_crow » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:06 am UTC

da Doctah wrote:How come we never hear about submoons?


According to wikipedia that is called a micromoon, because submoon doesn't sound cool enough I guess?
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby eviloatmeal » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:07 am UTC

Xenomortis wrote:For the same reason we don't hear much about Inferiorman?

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby orthogon » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:27 am UTC

It's a shame that the glob doesn't match Supermousse. That takes me back...
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby vodka.cobra » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:52 am UTC

gormster wrote:Matches:

Supern
Supermn
Supermmn
Supermmmmmmmmn

Does not match:

Superman
Supermoon

I must confess, this is what I thought when I read the comic title, too.
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby thevicente » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:09 pm UTC

inches


Great. Another webcomic I have to make units conversion to get the joke.

I get there's a tradition and all that, but at least in the www it should be easier to migrate.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby HES » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:15 pm UTC

Person-height is one of the few times where imperial units are allowable
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby PayasYouDraw » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:39 pm UTC

gormster wrote:Matches:

Supern
Supermn
Supermmn
Supermmmmmmmmn

Does not match:

Superman
Supermoon


How does that even work?
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby orthogon » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:46 pm UTC

PayasYouDraw wrote:
gormster wrote:Matches:

Supern
Supermn
Supermmn
Supermmmmmmmmn

Does not match:

Superman
Supermoon


How does that even work?

Stand back! I know regular expressions!
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby vodka.cobra » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:51 pm UTC

PayasYouDraw wrote:
gormster wrote:Matches:

Supern
Supermn
Supermmn
Supermmmmmmmmn

Does not match:

Superman
Supermoon


How does that even work?

The asterisk means "Any number of the preceding character or pattern." In this case, it was just the letter "m". You can apply the same thing to a class (e.g. [0-9a-zA-Z]* would match an empty string or any length of alphanumeric characters, until the end of the string or a non-alphanumeric character is encountered. Say, a hyphen.)
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:56 pm UTC

So it should have been "Superm?+n" ?
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby cellocgw » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:56 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:
eviloatmeal wrote:I don't think SOMETHINGY is a word, just use your imagination to figure out how you might end up over there in a real game.


Somethingy (adj): having a certain je ne sais quoi

Dunno, I think it has more of a je ne l'aime pas :oops:

I mean, really, did you ever see someone write "I think you somethingy the verb" ? :mrgreen:

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby EugeneStyles » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:57 pm UTC

At least "super" just means above, beyond, or more than.

The one that really annoys me is "mega-earth" being used to describe an exoplanet that isn't a million times as big as earth (it's 17x as massive, and twice the diameter): https://student.societyforscience.org/article/first-mega-earth-found.

You would think that astronomers of all people would know what "mega" means.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby pscottdv » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:37 pm UTC

peregrine_crow wrote:
da Doctah wrote:How come we never hear about submoons?


According to wikipedia that is called a micromoon, because submoon doesn't sound cool enough I guess?


minimoon would sound cooler. It's fun to say. Try it around your friends.
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby phlip » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:44 pm UTC

EugeneStyles wrote:You would think that astronomers of all people would know what "mega" means.

great, large, vast, big, high, tall; mighty, important?
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby pscottdv » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:44 pm UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:So it should have been "Superm?+n" ?


I'm afraid that is not a valid RE, but there are a lot of possibilities:

Superm.*n
Superm[a-z]*n
Superm[a-z]{1,2}n
Superm[a,o]{1,2}n
Superm(a|oo)n

and others.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby PayasYouDraw » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:50 pm UTC

vodka.cobra wrote:The asterisk means "Any number of the preceding character or pattern." In this case, it was just the letter "m". You can apply the same thing to a class (e.g. [0-9a-zA-Z]* would match an empty string or any length of alphanumeric characters, until the end of the string or a non-alphanumeric character is encountered. Say, a hyphen.)


Ah. I always fail on the computing jokes. For once Randall actually used a form that us normal people can understand.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:34 pm UTC

pscottdv wrote:
Neil_Boekend wrote:So it should have been "Superm?+n" ?


I'm afraid that is not a valid RE, but there are a lot of possibilities:
I am going to try and understand them:
pscottdv wrote:Superm.*n
which means "Superm" then one or more characters of any kind and then "n"
pscottdv wrote:Superm[a-z]*n
which means "Superm" then one or more characters in the range a-z and then "n"
pscottdv wrote:Superm[a-z]{1,2}n
Which means "Superm" then one or two characters in the range a-z and then "n"
pscottdv wrote:Superm[a,o]{1,2}n
Which means "Superm" then one or two "o" 's and/or "a" 's and then "n"
pscottdv wrote:Superm(a|oo)n
Which means "Superm" then "a" or "oo" and then "n"
The first one being the least exclusive, matching anything that starts with "Superm" and ends with "n". "Superm&*(^*()^(&*%&(%&(%(%^*(^*(&^*)&)n would yield a hit, despite some line noise in the middle.
The last one in that list being the most exclusive, literally only matching "Superman" and "Supermoon", unless I am wrong.
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby San Fran Sam » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:48 pm UTC

Wow. 33 replies and not a single other reboot.

Okay, I'll start.....

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby Whizbang » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:53 pm UTC

Roboot- X-Men Origins:Wolverine

An Australian comes to America at the behest of a woman from New York, who he loves. He intimidates a small gang of youths with the size of his knife.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby orthogon » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:21 pm UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:I am going to try and understand them:
pscottdv wrote:Superm.*n
which means "Superm" then one or more characters of any kind and then "n"

Yes, except the "*" is zero or more; or, as Angus Deayton once put it, "some or fewer". So "Superm.*n" would match "supermn". The "one or more" quantifier (if available in your flavour of regex) is "+".
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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby ManaUser » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:36 pm UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote: I am going to try and understand them:
pscottdv wrote:Superm.*n

which means "Superm" then one or more characters of any kind and then "n"
pscottdv wrote:Superm[a-z]*n

which means "Superm" then one or more characters in the range a-z and then "n"

The * means zero or more, so both of these would also match "Supermn".
What you said would be if it used + instead of *.
Neil_Boekend wrote:
pscottdv wrote:Superm[a,o]{1,2}n

Which means "Superm" then one or two "o" 's and/or "a" 's and then "n"

This actually means "Superm" then one or two "a"s, commas, and/or "o"s, then "n".
I assume that was a mistake on pscottdv's part. It still matches what we want, but it would also match Superm,,n.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby airdrik » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:00 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:Roboot- X-Men Origins:Wolverine

An Australian comes to America at the behest of a woman from New York, who he loves. He intimidates a small gang of youths with the size of his knife.

#Doingitright.

Yeah, that looks right.

I was actually thinking about that movie just last week, thinking it might be nice to watch it again some time.

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Re: 1394: Superm*n

Postby EugeneStyles » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:17 pm UTC

phlip wrote:
EugeneStyles wrote:You would think that astronomers of all people would know what "mega" means.

great, large, vast, big, high, tall; mighty, important?


Only in the same way that "theory" means a wild guess with no proof. Mega- is an SI prefix with a specific meaning in scientific terms. Using the less precise layman's meaning to describe a scientific find is just sloppy.


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